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Heavy Weather 2013
30 January 2020 12:29:21

A cruise ship with 6000 people on board has now been allowed to dock due to concerns some passengers have the virus.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
30 January 2020 12:31:52


 


This is what bothers me about countries outside China. They have a few confirmed cases which have been isolated, but since the incubation period is up to two weeks without obvious symptoms necessarily being present during that period and since we know asymptomatic carriers can pass on the infection (witness the German confirmed cases), it is surely probable that many people have been infected in third countries who have not yet presented to the authorities and who themselves are infecting others.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


India now has its first confirmed case as well. You were concerned this would come to pass.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Maunder Minimum
30 January 2020 12:41:20


York hotel in lockdown after Chinese national taken ill last night.


https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/18198268.chinese-national-taken-hospital-taken-ill-york-hotel/


 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Question - where did he come from? When did he arrive? How many people has he been in contact with since arrival?


My son-in-law is a doctor (GP) and he told me at the weekend that if there is a coronavirus outbreak in the UK, the NHS will collapse under the pressure.

New world order coming.
westv
30 January 2020 12:57:40


 My son-in-law is a doctor (GP) and he told me at the weekend that if there is a coronavirus outbreak in the UK, the NHS will collapse under the pressure.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


Why is that? There are 1.45 billion Chinese and, currently, 8,000 or so affected.

At least it will be mild!
Ally Pally Snowman
30 January 2020 13:11:55

Currently working very near Chinatown central London quite a few Chinese people wearing masks . Quite unusual for London.


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Maunder Minimum
30 January 2020 13:16:48


 


 


Why is that? There are 1.45 billion Chinese and, currently, 8,000 or so affected.


Originally Posted by: westv 


I think 8,000 is a chronic underestimate - independent statisticians have calculated from 50,000 (on the low side) to 200,000 or more, in China alone.


The point at issue as far as the NHS is concerned, is that if there is an outbreak here, hospitals may be inundated by people panicking they have the virus, when they may have nothing more than the common cold or influenza.

New world order coming.
westv
30 January 2020 13:21:40


 


I think 8,000 is a chronic underestimate - independent statisticians have calculated from 50,000 (on the low side) to 200,000 or more, in China alone.


The point at issue as far as the NHS is concerned, is that if there is an outbreak here, hospitals may be inundated by people panicking they have the virus, when they may have nothing more than the common cold or influenza.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


And did that happen during SARS - a more infectious virus?

At least it will be mild!
Maunder Minimum
30 January 2020 13:47:22


 


And did that happen during SARS - a more infectious virus?


Originally Posted by: westv 


The UK had very few ‘probable’ cases of SARS.


Details here:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693396/


There is a PDF download attached to the link.


P.S. Sars was less infectious than the current coronavirus, but it had a much higher fatality level.

New world order coming.
The Beast from the East
30 January 2020 13:49:41


Currently working very near Chinatown central London quite a few Chinese people wearing masks . Quite unusual for London.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


They should all be rounded up and sent to "re-education" camps to teach them how to treat animals with respect. Its their savagery and barbaric eating habits that has inflicted this virus on the world


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
30 January 2020 13:53:58


 


 


My son-in-law is a doctor (GP) and he told me at the weekend that if there is a coronavirus outbreak in the UK, the NHS will collapse under the pressure.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


If he voted Tory like his wife and parents in law, then he clearly doesn't give a stuff about the NHS anyway. 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gandalf The White
30 January 2020 14:11:04


 


And did that happen during SARS - a more infectious virus?


Originally Posted by: westv 


This is false. SARS was LESS infectious than this new Coronavirus but had a higher mortality rathe (based on current assessments).

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Maunder Minimum
30 January 2020 14:52:03


 


If he voted Tory like his wife and parents in law, then he clearly doesn't give a stuff about the NHS anyway. 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I have no idea how he voted, or my daughter for that matter.


But if you care about the NHS, then you should vote Tory, since only a strong economy can deliver the revenue required to fund public services.


Socialists always run out of other people's money and then everything goes pear shaped, including public services - ask Maduro!

New world order coming.
Quantum
30 January 2020 14:54:59


 


They should all be rounded up and sent to "re-education" camps to teach them how to treat animals with respect. Its their savagery and barbaric eating habits that has inflicted this virus on the world


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Can you just take this sort of stuff to the Breitbart comments section?


It's clear you are desperate to have an argument with a UKIP sterotype, so why don't you actually go and do that with people that actually hold those sorts of positions?


 

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Saint Snow
30 January 2020 14:58:31


Currently working very near Chinatown central London quite a few Chinese people wearing masks . Quite unusual for London.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Around Chinatown in Manchester there are always a small number people of Chinese lineage walking round wearing face masks, whatever the time of year. Not noticed an uptick in numbers yet, though.


 


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Essan
30 January 2020 14:59:08


The point at issue as far as the NHS is concerned, is that if there is an outbreak here, hospitals may be inundated by people panicking they have the virus, when they may have nothing more than the common cold or influenza.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 



Exactly the point I was going to make   Everyone with a cough or a sore throat or a runny nose - tens of thousands of people - will demand they get urgent treatment in a hospital like the one on Holby City, where there are 3 staff per patient and everyone has a ward to themselves.  And if they don't there'll be a riot.  Cos it's not fair!!! Wee got rites!!!!!

Most of them will, of course, contract 2019-nCoV whilst in the E&A waiting room from the only person in their city who actually did have it ....


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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Quantum
30 January 2020 15:05:15

Some precautions I've taken.



  • Stopped all social activities, limit travelling to the essential. Now working from home basically all the time.

  • Wash hands regularly with soap and water after touching a forgein surface or before eating.

  • Raised room temperature to 27C. Should expedite the denaturing of any viruses walked in.

  • Making more of a conscious effort to avoid touching face

  • Built up a sensible level of supplies such that I can completely isolate myself for a few weeks if it becomes necessary


 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Maunder Minimum
30 January 2020 15:05:23



Most of them will, of course, contract 2019-nCoV whilst in the E&A waiting room from the only person in their city who actually did have it ....



Originally Posted by: Essan 


There is ample evidence from China of that actually occurring.

New world order coming.
Saint Snow
30 January 2020 15:07:29


Some precautions I've taken.



  • Stopped all social activities, limit travelling to the essential. Now working from home basically all the time.

  • Wash hands regularly with soap and water after touching a forgein surface or before eating.

  • Raised room temperature to 27C. Should expedite the denaturing of any viruses walked in.

  • Making more of a conscious effort to avoid touching face

  • Built up a sensible level of supplies such that I can completely isolate myself for a few weeks if it becomes necessary


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 


How's the designs for the Spruce Goose coming along?


 


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Arcus
30 January 2020 15:08:08


 


 


Around Chinatown in Manchester there are always a small number people of Chinese lineage walking round wearing face masks, whatever the time of year. Not noticed an uptick in numbers yet, though.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Always large numbers of Chinese tourists in York, many of them have face masks as well. I always presumed it was the supposed car pollution/fumes as the reason why.

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
xioni2
30 January 2020 15:27:55



  • Stopped all social activities

    Originally Posted by: Quantum 



 That explains a lot.


 




  • Raised room temperature to 27C. Should expedite the denaturing of any viruses walked in.

    Originally Posted by: Quantum 



Another reasonable precaution is to sleep in your oven, 40-50C should be enough.

Brian Gaze
30 January 2020 15:29:52


Some precautions I've taken.



  • Stopped all social activities, limit travelling to the essential. Now working from home basically all the time.

  • Wash hands regularly with soap and water after touching a forgein surface or before eating.

  • Raised room temperature to 27C. Should expedite the denaturing of any viruses walked in.

  • Making more of a conscious effort to avoid touching face

  • Built up a sensible level of supplies such that I can completely isolate myself for a few weeks if it becomes necessary


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Is this a joke?

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Arcus
30 January 2020 15:33:54


 How's the designs for the Spruce Goose coming along?


 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 




 

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Gandalf The White
30 January 2020 15:42:52


 


Is this a joke?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Whatever else, it's a gross and bizarre overreaction.


All that turning up the thermostat to 27c will achieve is to put up the heating bill: it has zero effect on a virus.

Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Saint Snow
30 January 2020 15:44:30


 That explains a lot.


 


Another reasonable precaution is to sleep in your oven, 40-50C should be enough.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


And, most importantly of all, stop using your computer and any other electrical device to access TWO.


These computer viruses can be nasty.


 


 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gandalf The White
30 January 2020 15:45:00


 


There is ample evidence from China of that actually occurring.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Don't forget that the Chinese system doesn't have general practitioners; everyone has to go hospital.  To be fair, the same occurs if you sit in a busy Doctor's surgery waiting room.

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