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Heavy Weather 2013
06 February 2020 22:03:28


The 3rd UK case came from singapore.


Crap.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Oh dear. This is not good. We feared this might happen. It’s coming to pass.


I wonder if this virus could soon mutate due to the volume of cases we are seeing.


My housemate is off to Tokyo I two weeks. I suspect he may be quarantined when he gets back


 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
The Beast from the East
06 February 2020 22:05:02

I've just been sat in the pub with two friends who got back from Singapore 5 days ago.

Originally Posted by: Ulric 


probably best to delete your account in case we can catch it over cyberspace 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Lionel Hutz
06 February 2020 22:07:04


 


The BBC are saying he has died.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


According to the Guardian, a communist party newspaper has confirmed his death. He was 34. Doesn't exactly conform to the prediction that victims would be old and infirm. 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Quantum
06 February 2020 22:08:45


 


Oh dear. This is not good. We feared this might happen. It’s coming to pass.


I wonder if this virus could soon mutate due to the volume of cases we are seeing.


My housemate is off to Tokyo I two weeks. I suspect he may be quarantined when he gets back


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Already evidence of mutation, apparantely this virus mutates very quickly. Worst thing about that is that any future vacinne may be less effective.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
06 February 2020 22:10:28


 


The BBC are saying he has died.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


God knows what's going on. Confirmation of death, then denied by hospital and confirmed again.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
06 February 2020 22:12:01


 


Already evidence of mutation, apparantely this virus mutates very quickly. Worst thing about that is that any future vacinne may be less effective.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


We could be playing cat and mouse with this one. 


I have a feeling that we are going to see a rapid uptick on cases across Japan and Singapore. 


This has a long way to go just yet I think. I know the percentage increase is dropping each, but I wonder if that’s more to do with the volume of cases they are able to diagnose in a given day.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
four
  • four
  • Advanced Member
06 February 2020 22:18:17
Sooo.. someone I know is in The Philippines and flies back in about a week via Hong Kong.
Will he be in self imposed quarantine.
I guess he just changes planes in HK at the airport.
I did suggest it might not be a good idea to go. (last weekend)
The Beast from the East
06 February 2020 22:20:07
Can we get the Olympics again if the Japs have to cancel?
"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Saint Snow
06 February 2020 22:24:48


 


According to the Guardian, a communist party newspaper has confirmed his death. He was 34. Doesn't exactly conform to the prediction that victims would be old and infirm. 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


And the timescale between reported onset of symptoms (10th Jan) and death (7th Feb) is very odd, and doesn't seem to fit the normal Coronavirus pattern. 


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
06 February 2020 22:26:44

Can we get the Olympics again if the Japs have to cancel?

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


No, because the Tory  government leased the Olympic Stadium to the (Tory donor) Dildo Twins for 3 quid a year, and they've torn out all the athletics facilities. 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Quantum
06 February 2020 22:37:11


 


 


And the timescale between reported onset of symptoms (10th Jan) and death (7th Feb) is very odd, and doesn't seem to fit the normal Coronavirus pattern. 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


If it takes nearly a month to kill you then the mortality rate is ridiculously underestimated.


Forget 10%, 30%+


 


Should point out I'm not saying the mortality rate is 30%.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Justin W
06 February 2020 22:57:52
Was Tencent correct when it said that the death toll was more than 25,000 before quickly revising this to 301? Are tens of thousands of deaths being covered up?

Is the actual mortality rate, as Quantum wonders, close to a third?
Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Quantum
06 February 2020 23:11:19

Thing that really worries me about this is the very high number of people in ICU. It does seem survivable but gets extremely dicey after 7 days of mild symptons. I suspect if our healthcare gets overrun people will start to die at home.


We cannot risk an epidemic here in the UK.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Lionel Hutz
06 February 2020 23:21:52

Was Tencent correct when it said that the death toll was more than 25,000 before quickly revising this to 301? Are tens of thousands of deaths being covered up?

Is the actual mortality rate, as Quantum wonders, close to a third?

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I suspect that such a large death toll would be hard to cover up even in China. 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Quantum
06 February 2020 23:26:02


 


I suspect that such a large death toll would be hard to cover up even in China. 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


Why?


Everything that is coming through the censors seems to suggest they just have crematoriums running on overdrive. And even then some hospitals (including makeshift hospitals) are apparantely not shifting dead bodies fast enough.


Who knows whether these reports are true or not, or whether anacdotes merely appear to exaggerate the problem (10 can easily feel like 100) but if even a fraction of any of this is true it doesn't bode well.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
CreweCold
06 February 2020 23:40:38


 


Why?


Everything that is coming through the censors seems to suggest they just have crematoriums running on overdrive. And even then some hospitals (including makeshift hospitals) are apparantely not shifting dead bodies fast enough.


Who knows whether these reports are true or not, or whether anacdotes merely appear to exaggerate the problem (10 can easily feel like 100) but if even a fraction of any of this is true it doesn't bode well.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


If this virus is as potent as you fear, we have to hope for a mutation to roll the dice in the hope it moderates its potency.



Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Quantum
06 February 2020 23:48:50


 


If this virus is as potent as you fear, we have to hope for a mutation to roll the dice in the hope it moderates its potency.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


You would hope, but with such a long 'mild sympton phase' what possible environmental pressure would drive less fatal mutations to be selected? There is no evolutionary benefit since it has so long to infect others before it kills you.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
CreweCold
07 February 2020 00:02:08


 


You would hope, but with such a long 'mild sympton phase' what possible environmental pressure would drive less fatal mutations to be selected? There is no evolutionary benefit since it has so long to infect others before it kills you.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Yes but that only works for the virus where people are allowed to interact freely to infect others. By keeping a lid on it, or attempting to, we have to hope we slow it down enough for it to not be transferred as efficiently before it seriously debilitates its host.



Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Quantum
07 February 2020 00:08:58


 


Yes but that only works for the virus where people are allowed to interact freely to infect others. By keeping a lid on it, or attempting to, we have to hope we slow it down enough for it to not be transferred as efficiently before it seriously debilitates its host.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


That's a good point. I suppose we may not be able to stop the virus but if we can slow it down it may become less dangerous.


Equally, though, we can't rule out it becoming even more dangerous.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Ally Pally Snowman
07 February 2020 01:15:36

41 more infected on cruise ship off Japan. 61 in total. Shows how easy it is to catch I think they need to get everyone off the boat.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Caz
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  • Advanced Member
07 February 2020 07:07:12

We returned last night from cruising the Far East, so this is a bit worrying.  We left on 22nd January and were given no specific advice regarding the virus.  We boarded the cruise ship in Thailand and visited Cambodia, Vietnam, three ports in Malaysia, Singapore, then two ports in Thailand. At each port, we disembarked and were screened at every one by means of body temperature scanning, a requirement of the Asian authorities. 


On board the ship, hygiene was very good, with hand sanitisers everywhere and regular reminders over the ship’s tannoy for them to be used.  However, when we returned to Birmingham airport last night, after a 13 hour flight, we were not screened.  I would have expected UK authorities to have done at least some basic checks when over 300 people are returning on a plane from a cruise around the affected areas. 


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DEW
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07 February 2020 07:12:08


41 more infected on cruise ship off Japan. 61 in total. Shows how easy it is to catch I think they need to get everyone off the boat.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Dilemma! Better for the people on the boat to get them off, but for the rest of the world to keep such a concentrated source of infection isolated. I think I would, rather uneasily, go for the latter.


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Chichester 12m asl
Ally Pally Snowman
07 February 2020 07:33:05


 


Dilemma! Better for the people on the boat to get them off, but for the rest of the world to keep such a concentrated source of infection isolated. I think I would, rather uneasily, go for the latter.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Apparently Japan has taken the infected. Japan is probably the best country in the world to end up in if you have this virus.


The 61 is only out of 273 tested still 3700 untested. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Maunder Minimum
07 February 2020 08:04:35


41 more infected on cruise ship off Japan. 61 in total. Shows how easy it is to catch I think they need to get everyone off the boat.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


This was from one 80 year old Chinese individual apparently. It just goes to demonstrate that this corona virus is far more contagious than SARS was.


 


New world order coming.
Maunder Minimum
07 February 2020 08:05:49


We returned last night from cruising the Far East, so this is a bit worrying.  We left on 22nd January and were given no specific advice regarding the virus.  We boarded the cruise ship in Thailand and visited Cambodia, Vietnam, three ports in Malaysia, Singapore, then two ports in Thailand. At each port, we disembarked and were screened at every one by means of body temperature scanning, a requirement of the Asian authorities. 


On board the ship, hygiene was very good, with hand sanitisers everywhere and regular reminders over the ship’s tannoy for them to be used.  However, when we returned to Birmingham airport last night, after a 13 hour flight, we were not screened.  I would have expected UK authorities to have done at least some basic checks when over 300 people are returning on a plane from a cruise around the affected areas. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Hi Caz, glad you are back and hope you are well. Suggest you write to your MP about your experience - it is a complete dereliction of duty that you were not screened and given advice on return.


New world order coming.

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