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doctormog
02 March 2020 22:16:25




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


An even bigger problem in Canada and Sweden based on that type of analysis in isolation?


Gandalf The White
02 March 2020 23:08:04


 


 


Apparently some patients have to pay for their own Covid19 tests in America  $3000  a go.  They truly have the worst health system 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Donald thinks it's the best healthcare system in the world.  Ever.


Anyone who says otherwise is spreading fake news and/or a Democrat.


 


I listened to a Republican and a Democrat having a spat about Covid-19: it was pathetic but the Republican was unhinged.


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Gandalf The White
02 March 2020 23:09:46

It's about 20x more infectious and 10x more likely to kill.

Originally Posted by: four 


The second figure might be an underestimate; the first number is fiction: there isn't a reliable number but 20 is absurd.


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Justin W
02 March 2020 23:09:51

Went out with some of my mates from the Lobby this evening and all of them have been briefed OTR that the situation is likely to get very bad vis-a-vis infections and the pressure on essential services.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gandalf The White
02 March 2020 23:20:28


 


In 2009 H1N1 spread quickly and experts say it infected 11-21% of the population. Why is covid19 so different that it will infect 50-90% of the population?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I think that there's a huge difference between 'possible' and 'likely'.


It's possible I'll win the Lottery; it's extremely likely that I won't.


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Grandad
02 March 2020 23:27:43
What has happened to Obama Care?

My understanding was that Trump was unable to cancel it, and so implement his own system?

I also understand that he has ordered mass testing. But, not mentioned on here?

Grandad
Darren S
02 March 2020 23:34:46

What has happened to Obama Care?

My understanding was that Trump was unable to cancel it, and so implement his own system?

I also understand that he has ordered mass testing. But, not mentioned on here?

Grandad

Originally Posted by: Grandad 


Tests per million people for selected countries:


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/


USA not looking too good on that one!


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Gandalf The White
02 March 2020 23:38:29

What has happened to Obama Care?

My understanding was that Trump was unable to cancel it, and so implement his own system?

I also understand that he has ordered mass testing. But, not mentioned on here?

Grandad

Originally Posted by: Grandad 


 


Obamacare remains.  Even some Republicans recognised that Trump's alternative was a pig in a poke - it would have taken healthcare away from 20 million people.


 


If Trump as ordered mass testing I can't find any news about it. Do you have a reference or are you guessing?  Who would pay for 'mass testing' and does the US healthcare system even have the resources to do that?


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The Beast from the East
03 March 2020 00:42:10


Went out with some of my mates from the Lobby this evening and all of them have been briefed OTR that the situation is likely to get very bad vis-a-vis infections and the pressure on essential services.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Popcorn at the ready


"We have some alternative facts for you"
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The Beast from the East
03 March 2020 00:47:43

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bowser
03 March 2020 06:28:38


I see the DOW closed up a massive 5%. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


https://mobile.twitter.com/EconguyRosie/status/1234585440126029824

Brian Gaze
03 March 2020 07:06:04


 


Tests per million people for selected countries:


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/


USA not looking too good on that one!


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


Does anyone know why total tested (for all countries) was removed from the WHO website on March 2nd? 


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warrenb
03 March 2020 07:27:48
When do we get to the point that we just donโ€™t bother testing, as the likelihood is the patient has it and is just told the self isolate. We canโ€™t expect a test when we are in a pandemic. If this goes the way some people are saying I am pretty sure we donโ€™t have 30million test kits.
speckledjim
03 March 2020 07:29:39


 


The second figure might be an underestimate; the first number is fiction: there isn't a reliable number but 20 is absurd.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I've assumed it was made up as I've not received a response back. The best info I could find is that Swine flu had an R0 of 1.4-1.6 and the latest thinking on Covid-19 is an R0 of 2.2. I'm no mathematician so don't know what that difference in figures means on the ground. 


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DEW
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03 March 2020 07:49:13

I thought I'd watch the BBC programme "Everything you ever wanted to know about coronavirus .." last night. A great disappointment - 10 minutes history of outbreak, 10 minutes Boris mouthing platitudes, 10 minutes answering questions mostly with answers which have been well publicised already (though there may well be people with cloth ears).


I'm sure that a lot of ad hoc decisions will need to be made in the next weeks, but no politician wants to admit it for fear of appearing not to be in control.


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speckledjim
03 March 2020 07:53:02


I thought I'd watch the BBC programme "Everything you ever wanted to know about coronavirus .." last night. A great disappointment - 10 minutes history of outbreak, 10 minutes Boris mouthing platitudes, 10 minutes answering questions mostly with answers which have been well publicised already (though there may well be people with cloth ears).


I'm sure that a lot of ad hoc decisions will need to be made in the next weeks, but no politician wants to admit it for fear of appearing not to be in control.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


The Sky programme was much better - they're doing one each day.


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The Beast from the East
03 March 2020 07:53:57

Just like the good ole days of the Empire. There are no cases in Sri Lanka. Its the Sri Lankans who should be worried about the English bringing it over


 




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four
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03 March 2020 08:02:13


...... There are no cases in Sri Lanka. Its the Sri Lankans who should be worried about the English bringing it over


 



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Indeed, so they don't need to risk doing that.


Gavin D
03 March 2020 08:13:54
The government are expected to push through emergency powers which will allow them to bring in school closures &ย banย big gatherings as well as other measures if needed.

Boris will be holding another press conference at around 10:30.
The Beast from the East
03 March 2020 08:15:19

The government are expected to push through emergency powers which will allow them to bring in school closures & ban big gatherings as well as other measures if needed.

Boris will be holding another press conference at around 10:30.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Can they wait till after the Cheltenham festival?


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
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Gavin D
03 March 2020 08:17:33
Overnight China reported 11 new cases of coronavirus they were all outside the Hubei province with 7 of the cases are linked to Italy.
Gavin D
03 March 2020 08:18:27


 Can they wait till after the Cheltenham festival?


 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


As long as they can keep it fairly contained as it appears to be at present then I would think so. 

Brian Gaze
03 March 2020 08:18:55


 


Can they wait till after the Cheltenham festival?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


If the big summer events are cancelled my income will probably tank by about 60% over the course of the year. Summer is when the £ is made here on TWO.  


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Brian Gaze
03 March 2020 08:25:17

Good piece here by a woman in Singapore who has had and recovered from corona. 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-survived-coronavirus-and-isolation


In her case it sounds quite similar to the flu. We can only assume she is of average health and has no diagnosed underlying conditions. 


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Bugglesgate
03 March 2020 08:33:20


 


If the big summer events are cancelled my income will probably tank by about 60% over the course of the year. Summer is when the £ is made here on TWO.  


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


There are  huge trade shows (UK and global) that will make a great dent in  GDP  figures if they don't happen.  From my own industry IBC (Amsterdam)  and NAB (Vegas).  They help drive   growth in the industry as well as  for the host countries.


If  you multiply  across all industries globally, widespread closures will be a "big deal".


 


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