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doctormog
08 March 2020 08:39:30

Italy will be a test. If law and order breaks down what then? Snatch squads and immediate execution? Or will the police and army simply be told to shoot on sight? In the UK I think we're still a few weeks away from that scenario.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


How many weeks? Just so we can revisit, if we haven’t been culled.


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08 March 2020 08:48:49

Peter and a few others suggested earlier and I think it's an interesting theory but I’m no expert. The smoking connection has merit?


I was reading something earlier about how many people are estimated to die each year because of air pollution - it's several million and it gives a sense of proportion


I just wonder if air pollution in industrialised China might make their lungs more susceptible to a virus like CV19. If the virus does get everywhere (which still seems is likely) perhaps those living in the most air polluted parts will (there will of course be other variables like level of healthcare, numbers of older or younger people) suffer disproportionately.


So when you see this part of Italy is prone to serious pollution levels both air and waterborne.


https://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/slidesets/humanimprints/slide_17.html


Could there be a connection? Maybe a new hotspot will be LA and Mexico City?


Could personal hygiene also be a factor as well apart from handwashing? I mention this because I know a couple of people who’ve been in the military and this factor was an essential part of their training. Though it’s not always adhered to as this study shows.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3944032/


Maybe now's the time to relaunch Izal. Surely no one in their right mind would stockpile that stuff would they?


https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/XOsAeBEAAEMRUqpd 


Back to the bidet then.


 


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Devonian
08 March 2020 08:51:15


 


How many weeks? Just so we can revisit, if we haven’t been culled.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


It does all seem to be getting a tiny bit out of hand. There's a growing danger the cure becomes worse than the disease.

The Beast from the East
08 March 2020 08:53:52

Has Justin got a fever?


But I would agree that the gutter press (I include the Telegraph which has become a joke paper) is merely now reflecting public hysteria rather than creating it


Throughout human history, panic and hysteria spread like wildfire in certain situations, through word of mouth, long before newspapers came into being


 


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The Beast from the East
08 March 2020 09:00:41


 


How many weeks? Just so we can revisit, if we haven’t been culled.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Don't mock, people have forgotten the London riots of 2011. That took off in hours and normally law abiding citizens turned into zombies because they wanted free stuff


Now its more serious, as the plebs think they will not have food etc, so they will kill if necessary


This is going to be a life changing period for many of us. Not Brexit!


Makes you wonder why Corbyn and Swinson decided to give Boris his election in Dec


If they had just waited!


Fortunately for Sanders, this is perfect timing. If the US healthcare system collapses, his radical policies might become accepted by the masses 


 


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doctormog
08 March 2020 09:05:38
Justin W
08 March 2020 09:09:26

Italy will be a test. If law and order breaks down what then? Snatch squads and immediate execution? Or will the police and army simply be told to shoot on sight? In the UK I think we're still a few weeks away from that scenario.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 




I thought you told us this was nothing to worry about



Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
westv
08 March 2020 09:11:53

Italy will be a test. If law and order breaks down what then? Snatch squads and immediate execution? Or will the police and army simply be told to shoot on sight? In the UK I think we're still a few weeks away from that scenario.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Brian, I'll go with your 0% record of correct sensationalist predictions so shall we pass on this one too?


At least it will be mild!
The Beast from the East
08 March 2020 09:13:25


Cruise ships isolated and unable to dock are like the 21st century version of the plague ships of old.


Venice is quarantined now. The word quarantine comes from a Venetian variant.


Today's face masks are the modern version of the plague masks of old


Ignorance of the disease has increased prejudicism like during the plagues of old.


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


 


Indeed, we think we are civilised and "better" than previous societies and generations, but we are still animals and when push comes to shove, the animal instinct takes over and we are ready to do anything to protect our "tribe" 


 


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The Beast from the East
08 March 2020 09:15:29



Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I'm leaving this shithole country called England anyway and perhaps moving up there to escape the Brexit hordes. Is Aberdeen a nice place to live?


 


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Roger Parsons
08 March 2020 09:17:52


I'm leaving this shithole country called England anyway and perhaps moving up there to escape the Brexit hordes. Is Aberdeen a nice place to live?


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


They have some terrific weather up there I have been told.


Roger


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doctormog
08 March 2020 09:18:15


 


I'm leaving this shithole country called England anyway and perhaps moving up there to escape the Brexit hordes. Is Aberdeen a nice place to live?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yes, although apparently the weather is awful (especially at weekends). We do have two or three cases of Covid-19 currently however.


Edit: Roger beat me to it. 


Justin W
08 March 2020 09:18:18


 


I'm leaving this shithole country called England anyway and perhaps moving up there to escape the Brexit hordes. Is Aberdeen a nice place to live?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You’ve been promising us this for years. Instead you just stay put and carry on the whining like a baby!


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
08 March 2020 09:21:33

Get used to food rationing


 




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Gavin D
08 March 2020 09:22:55
Germany have reported 52 new cases

Total now 847 and 0 deaths
xioni2
08 March 2020 09:23:10

I propose an emergency TWO meet up and we go and steal Justin's stockpile.


Brexiters at the front so they get the brunt of the shooting. 


Justin W
08 March 2020 09:27:26


I propose an emergency TWO meet up and we go and steal Justin's stockpile.


Brexiters at the front so they get the brunt of the shooting. 



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


You won’t get beyond the trench of burning oil



Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
08 March 2020 09:30:50

Germany have reported 52 new cases

Total now 847 and 0 deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


It must be dodgy data, the Germans are hiding their dead! 

Ally Pally Snowman
08 March 2020 09:39:58


 


It must be dodgy data, the Germans are hiding their dead! 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


It's certainly an unusual statistic compared to the rest of the world.  


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John p
08 March 2020 09:42:01


 


Brian, I'll go with your 0% record of correct sensationalist predictions so shall we pass on this one too?


Originally Posted by: westv 


I may be wrong, but I think when Brian makes these predictions, his tongue is firmly in cheek.


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Joe Bloggs
08 March 2020 09:42:32

Surely after last night’s news the FCO need to advice against all but essential travel to the whole of Lombardy etc? 


A lot of people will need to cancel holidays now and will need to be covered by their insurers. 



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The Beast from the East
08 March 2020 09:52:58


 


You’ve been promising us this for years. Instead you just stay put and carry on the whining like a baby!


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I only made the promise last year if Boris won. Ian Brown also did so and seems to have disappeared


I am tooled up like you and ready to fight. I have been since my cars were broken into outside my house last Summer, I have CCTV evidence of the 2 teenage scroats, but the police didn't even bother to investigate


This area has turned chavvy with many young people unable to speak properly and constantly looking at Instagram


When these hordes come knocking to steal my stuff, I will be ready and ready to die if necessary


 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
08 March 2020 09:55:35

Rishi Sunak telling me as a self employed person to apply for Universal credit if I can't get to work because of the virus crisis. F##k off.


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xioni2
08 March 2020 09:58:25


It's certainly an unusual statistic compared to the rest of the world.  


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


My comment was tongue in cheek obviously, Germany has a superb healthcare system and a high number of ICUs, so they will probably have fewer deaths than other countries. The concentration of infections also seems very important, Lombardy is now like Hubei. I just checked the data (per 100k people) and I was surprised and dismayed at how few ICU beds does the NHS have actually. I imagine though that this is just one aspect and that the NHS must have some flexibility?


Germany: 29.2
Luxembourg: 24.8
Austria: 21.8
Belgium: 21.4
Lithuania: 15.5
Croatia: 14.7
Estonia: 14.6
Hungary: 13.8
**ITALY**: 12.5
Bulgaria: 11.6
France: 11.6
Czech Republic: 11.6
Cyprus: 11.4
Switzerland: 11
Spain: 9.7
Latvia: 9.7
Slovakia: 9.2
Iceland: 9.1
Norway: 8
Andorra: 7.1
Poland: 6.9
Denmark: 6.7
**UNITED KINGDOM**: 6.6
Iceland: 6.5
Slovenia: 6.4
Netherlands: 6.4
Finland: 6.1
Greece: 6
Sweden: 5.8
Portugal: 4.5


EUROPE AVERAGE: 11.5


Source: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00134-012-2627-8

Gavin D
08 March 2020 09:59:22
The Bahrain GP on March 22nd will take place behind closed doors due to concerns over the coronavirus outbreak.

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