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Maunder Minimum
09 March 2020 08:17:46


 


Why are the usual suspects being so over dramatic?  


The health service will not collapse. It will come under pressure and the quality of care will suffer; difficult choices will have to be made. But we will cope.


You've been worried for over two months, pouring out scare stories and hyperbolic predictions. Singapore is still functioning; China is getting it under control.


This can be managed and nobody is playing down the challenges but I really don't see how comments like those from you and, especially, Maunder, are helpful.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Europe does not have a command economy and will not cope as efficiently with the outbreak as China did, or for that matter as well as SK or Singapore. We have been stupid not to have introduced the same controls as Taiwan did in the early days - they are the role model.


But it is too late, the genie is out of the bottle and we will have to cope as best we can, but the sum total of human misery unleashed will be horrible. That is what I don't understand about the complacency - when a hospital near you is overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases and can do little else, perhaps you will adjust your opinion in the light of reality. We should have restricted and monitored travel from affected regions far more severely from the outset.

New world order coming.
Justin W
09 March 2020 08:19:21


 


Europe does not have a command economy and will not cope as efficiently with the outbreak as China did, or for that matter as well as SK or Singapore. We have been stupid not to have introduced the same controls as Taiwan did in the early days - they are the role model.


But it is too late, the genie is out of the bottle and we will have to cope as best we can, but the sum total of human misery unleashed will be horrible. That is what I don't understand about the complacency - when a hospital near you is overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases and can do little else, perhaps you will adjust your opinion in the light of reality. We should have restricted and monitored travel from affected regions far more severely from the outset.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Absolutely spot on.


I see that the William Harvey Hospital in Ashford is putting up quarantine tents in the car park. Is this 'coming under pressure' but coping?

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 08:19:43


 


Clue: Sneeze, cough


Options of useful stuff to stockpile to control spread


a) Dry pasta


b) Toilet roll


c) Boxes of tissues


Additional clue, NHS advice: put used tissues in the bin straight away and wash your hands afterwards


Question: out of a, b and c  which do you think is going to be most useful to control the spread of virus?


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


You don't get a cold from this, so tissue are useless. 


I'm going to Tesco later, so will check out what the sheep are doing today


 

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speckledjim
09 March 2020 08:22:54


 


Absolutely spot on.


I see that the William Harvey Hospital in Ashford is putting up quarantine tents in the car park. Is this 'coming under pressure' but coping?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


All hospitals were asked early in Feb to put in separate areas to asses virus patients.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 08:23:02


 


Europe does not have a command economy and will not cope as efficiently with the outbreak as China did, or for that matter as well as SK or Singapore. We have been stupid not to have introduced the same controls as Taiwan did in the early days - they are the role model.


But it is too late, the genie is out of the bottle and we will have to cope as best we can, but the sum total of human misery unleashed will be horrible. That is what I don't understand about the complacency - when a hospital near you is overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases and can do little else, perhaps you will adjust your opinion in the light of reality. We should have restricted and monitored travel from affected regions far more severely from the outset.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Completely agree Maunder


Boris and Trump have both already failed by not taking bold action weeks ago. They both cannot afford to see their house of cards economies  collapse before the November election and Brexit in December


I think Boris will have to extend transition. Will you accept this?


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Justin W
09 March 2020 08:23:13


 


All hospitals were asked early in Feb to put in separate areas to asses virus patients.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Nothing to see here...

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 08:25:01


I’ve just heard on the radio that the government wants to stop misinformation being spread to the public 


Originally Posted by: roadrunnerajn 



They should sack Cummings then

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gavin D
09 March 2020 08:25:11
If we can believe overnight figures from the east they appear to be getting it under control slowly but surely thanks in part to the lockdowns

South Korea: 248 new cases and 1 new death
China: 40 new cases and 21 new deaths
Saudi Arabia: 4 new cases

One fears It will be quite a while before Italy starts to see it under control
speckledjim
09 March 2020 08:25:55


 


Nothing to see here...


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


That's a surprise as they are in situ at all our local hospitals

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
westv
09 March 2020 08:26:06


...and in the end, the FTSE only lost 1.8% or so in the first couple of minutes. Unlike the futures to be so far out!


EDIT: And there we go, down 5% now a couple of minutes later. Looks like it's taking ages to find a buyer for the large numbers of shares being dumped!


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Still showing -1.85% on the BBC but Google shows -8.5% when I looked.

At least it will be mild!
KevBrads1
09 March 2020 08:27:05


 


 


Bizarre post - utterly bizarre. Do you know that the tissues section hadn't just been restocked? And when people are asked to stock up for two weeks of quarantine by PHE, do you think they should just live on tissues?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Worked in wholesale for nearly 28 years, saw it first hand yesterday. Saw people I know don't need that volume of toilet roll. Know that some people were buying close to a year supply of toilet roll. Hardly any one was bulk buying boxes of tissues. 


Restrictions on toilet roll, on dry pasta even tinned vegetable.  Boxes of tissues, no issues.  


So why are stockpiling all this stuff and yet not boxes of tissues? You come down with the virus, you stockpiled everything else but one thing that you are going to use frequently is probably tissues. Going to be great that you have used your box, one week into your quarantine period.


But hey ho Justin, you can tap into your year supply of toilet rolls...

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Justin W
09 March 2020 08:30:17


 


 


Worked in wholesale for nearly 28 years, saw it first hand yesterday. Saw people I know don't need that volume of toilet roll. Know that some people were buying close to a year supply of toilet roll. Hardly any one was bulk buying boxes of tissues. 


Restrictions on toilet roll, on dry pasta even tinned vegetable.  Boxes of tissues, no issues.  


So why are stockpiling all this stuff and yet not boxes of tissues? You come down with the virus, you stockpiled everything else but one thing that you are going to use frequently is probably tissues. Going to be great that you have used your box, one week into your quarantine period.


But hey ho Justin, you can tap into your year supply of toilet rolls...


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Are you now saying I don't have any tissues? And that I have a year's supply of toilet rolls? I can't keep up!


Anyway - tissues are pretty useless as you don't have sinus symptoms with Covid-19. But you carry on, Kevin.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
NickR
09 March 2020 08:30:45


 


Clue: Sneeze, cough


Options of useful stuff to stockpile to control spread


a) Dry pasta


b) Toilet roll


c) Boxes of tissues


Additional clue, NHS advice: put used tissues in the bin straight away and wash your hands afterwards


Question: out of a, b and c  which do you think is going to be most useful to control the spread of virus?


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Seriously? Is this a serious post? This has been explained umpteen times. Not that it should need explaining.

Nick
Durham
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Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 08:31:03


All of the smug self-righteous types deriding those 'morons' doing big shops at the supermarkets obviously didn't notice official advice last week:


 


Public Health England (PHE) has asked members of the public to consider stocking up on enough supplies and food to last them during a potential two-week quarantine.


Health bosses say people should be prepared to be asked to self-isolate as the Government moves into the 'delay' phase of its four-stage battle plan.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


So, suggested that you keep an extra week’s supply. Most people do a weekly shop anyway and have other food in the freezer and in cans. The advice is to buy a few days’ extra.


That’s rather different to buying up several months’ worth of toilet paper, pasta, tinned foods and more.


That aside, ‘smug self-righteous types’ takes the prize for ludicrous and unwarranted mislabelling.


 


 


 

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Roger Parsons
09 March 2020 08:31:21


Absolutely spot on.


I see that the William Harvey Hospital in Ashford is putting up quarantine tents in the car park. Is this 'coming under pressure' but coping?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Is that old fella with the medals still hanging about in the Car Park whistling Colonel Bogey, Justin?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k4NEAIk3PU


R


 

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Retron
09 March 2020 08:31:46


 


Still showing -1.85% on the BBC but Google shows -8.5% when I looked.


Originally Posted by: westv 


It seems to have levelled off around 8.5% down. The US futures are only down 5%, but IG (the spread-betting firm) reckons they've hit the "down lock", so won't fall further until an hour before the bell goes - which will be 1:30PM our time.


 

Leysdown, north Kent
The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 08:31:54

Cant people wipe their arses with Kleenex?


I know they may block the drains though

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Justin W
09 March 2020 08:33:05


Cant people wipe their arses with Kleenex?


I know they may block the drains though


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You can't flush tissues down the loo because they have a tighter and thicker weave than bog roll and, yes, could block the drains. 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
David M Porter
09 March 2020 08:34:34


 


Europe does not have a command economy and will not cope as efficiently with the outbreak as China did, or for that matter as well as SK or Singapore. We have been stupid not to have introduced the same controls as Taiwan did in the early days - they are the role model.


But it is too late, the genie is out of the bottle and we will have to cope as best we can, but the sum total of human misery unleashed will be horrible. That is what I don't understand about the complacency - when a hospital near you is overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases and can do little else, perhaps you will adjust your opinion in the light of reality. We should have restricted and monitored travel from affected regions far more severely from the outset.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 



Well said MM, especially what you say in your final sentence. Sums up my thoughts too.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 08:36:07


 


Absolutely spot on.


I see that the William Harvey Hospital in Ashford is putting up quarantine tents in the car park. Is this 'coming under pressure' but coping?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


You’d prefer temporary buildings?

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Heavy Weather 2013
09 March 2020 08:36:59

Gandalf saying that the NHS wont collapse. Does he have a crystal ball?


You only have to look at Italy to see how incorrect this statement might be.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
bowser
09 March 2020 08:37:43


 


It seems to have levelled off around 8.5% down. The US futures are only down 5%, but IG (the spread-betting firm) reckons they've hit the "down lock", so won't fall further until an hour before the bell goes - which will be 1:30PM our time.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Are you still buying all the way down this move?

Retron
09 March 2020 08:42:38


Are you still buying all the way down this move?


Originally Posted by: bowser 


Not any more, as I've used up the spare cash I had in my SIPP. (I can't draw on it for another 18 years, so I'm not especially bothered that it's gone down since.) I can't put any more cash into my SIPP as I'm close to the limit for this tax year (which is much lower than £40K as I don't earn anywhere near that).


I do have a significant amount of cash from selling some shares earlier in the (tax) year, though, which is outside of a tax wrapper.


I'm thus waiting for the new tax year before making any big buying moves, as it'd be a shame to do it outside of an ISA!


 


 

Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 08:44:22


Gandalf saying that the NHS wont collapse. Does he have a crystal ball?


You only have to look at Italy to see how incorrect this statement might be.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


People are saying it will collapse. Do they have a crystal ball?


What a foolish comment.

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Polar Low
09 March 2020 08:49:39

Hug the bear time futures are not always correct and not a definition guide for the trading day ahead,but the ftse has the Bear fever.


Gold above 1.7 amazing!!


 


 


 

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