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The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 21:59:23


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
xioni2
09 March 2020 22:02:20


 for 80%of the workforce its impossible do their job from home


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


Source? I really doubt this number.

Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 22:03:21


 


They also have the advantage that Chinese people are more loyal/obedient to the state.


In the UK, there is no chance it can be contained.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


You may be right but I'm hoping a majority will be sensible; although the panic buying brings that into question.


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Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 22:06:16


 


Again this will spark mass panic and for 80% of the workforce its impossible do their job from home. Its too late as yet again the uk has been reactive and not pro active.


 

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


Yet if you believe that for 80% there's no option but to travel to work, which may well be true, the delay has very little effect doesn't it?


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doctormog
09 March 2020 22:08:11




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


China must have done something impressive to keep its death total well below 31 million.


xioni2
09 March 2020 22:08:57


Yet if you believe that for 80% there's no option but to travel to work, which may well be true, the delay has very little effect doesn't it?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


There is no way it's 80% in a services based economy .

xioni2
09 March 2020 22:10:15


China must have done something impressive to keep its death total well below 31 million.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


They are just hiding the bodies.

Saint Snow
09 March 2020 22:12:49


 


They are just hiding the bodies.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


Yeah, I have my suspicions. Let's just say I'll be swerving Char Sui for the foreseeable.



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Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 22:13:15




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Two massive assumptions there which are questionable.  80% infected was an absolute maximum, extreme worst case scenario; mortality rates are not 3%.  Nonetheless, the numbers certainly don't look good even if you knock the mortality rate back to 2% and the infection rate to 10-20%: still a six-figure death toll.


But Johnson was either not explaining the position well or just winging it; current policy is to try to flatten and delay the peak, not just to let it roll through the entire population.


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The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 22:16:40


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 22:21:21


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
David M Porter
09 March 2020 22:23:25

I think the entire Euros are lookinģ very shaky at the moment considering the tornament covers a number of countries.

Originally Posted by: westv 


I think that as far as the Euros are concerned, one can only hope that the whole situation with this virus has improved considerably by then to what it currently is.


As I mentioned yesterday, one thing that will hopefully act in our favour in terms of quelling this disease is the fact that we are slowly but surely working our way towards summer and warmer and (hopefully) drier weather. While the current situation is more than serious enough, I wonder just how had it may have become had this disease surfaced about 6 months ago when the days were shortening.


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NickR
09 March 2020 22:25:14


 


China must have done something impressive to keep its death total well below 31 million.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


As the recent WHO report showed: yes, they did.


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The Beast from the East
09 March 2020 22:25:29


 


China must have done something impressive to keep its death total well below 31 million.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


most estimates say at least 100,000 UK deaths if nothing is done , but that’s over the entire  period until a vaccine is found. Price worth paying says this govt 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
David M Porter
09 March 2020 22:31:37

All sporting events including Serie A, suspended in Italy with immediate effect 

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I noticed that four games from the weekend just gone were postponed with the other four taking place behind closed doors. The Juventus v Inter Milan game was one that did go ahead I believe.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
doctormog
09 March 2020 22:32:11


 


most estimates say at least 100,000 UK deaths if nothing is done , but that’s over the entire  period until a vaccine is found. Price worth paying says this govt 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I assume you think the Chief Medical Officer is part of this conspiracy too.


xioni2
09 March 2020 22:36:16


Yeah, I have my suspicions. Let's just say I'll be swerving Char Sui for the foreseeable.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


There should be some special offers soon. 

John p
09 March 2020 22:37:11


 


I assume you think the Chief Medical Officer is part of this conspiracy too.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I don’t, but his views do seem to differ from the experts in other affected countries. 


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David M Porter
09 March 2020 22:38:27

The more I read this thread, the more worried I become. The news from Italy tonight isn't helping either.


I remember hearing about the Bird Flu and Swine Flu outbreaks in 2005 and 2009 respectively and thinking "It probably won't come here". As far as I recall, I think this country avoided both. However, I am seriously worried about what is happening at the moment, especially as someone who has a compromised immune system due to the medication I take for Crohn's Disease.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Chunky Pea
09 March 2020 22:38:35



You've gone too far now Justin. Rush were a great band.

Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Not a fan of their style, but great musicians and this song when I heard it first just blew me away. The inevitability of time.


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speckledjim
09 March 2020 22:43:36


The more I read this thread, the more worried I become. The news from Italy tonight isn't helping either.


I remember hearing about the Bird Flu and Swine Flu outbreaks in 2005 and 2009 respectively and thinking "It probably won't come here". As far as I recall, I think this country avoided both. However, I am seriously worried about what is happening at the moment, especially as someone who has a compromised immune system due to the medication I take for Crohn's Disease.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


We had over 400000 cases of swine flu so certainly didn’t avoid it 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
David M Porter
09 March 2020 22:44:45


 


We had over 400000 cases of swine flu so certainly didn’t avoid it 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Thanks, I stand corrected.


Were there any deaths from it in the UK?


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Gandalf The White
09 March 2020 22:45:28


 


most estimates say at least 100,000 UK deaths if nothing is done , but that’s over the entire  period until a vaccine is found. Price worth paying says this govt 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You mean most guesses by people largely unqualified in the field of epidemiology are around 100,000.


Given current numbers and predicted growth we could be at around 5,000 by the end of March - assuming a doubling every 4-5 days.  It’s a long way from 5,000 to 5 million.


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speckledjim
09 March 2020 22:47:06


 


Thanks, I stand corrected.


Were there any deaths from it in the UK?


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


It was actually 540000 cases and 128 deaths


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
doctormog
09 March 2020 22:47:18


 


You mean most guesses by people largely unqualified in the field of epidemiology are around 100,000.


Given current numbers and predicted growth we could be at around 5,000 by the end of March - assuming a doubling every 4-5 days.  It’s a long way from 5,000 to 5 million.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



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