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Gavin D
10 March 2020 10:42:22
China's latest update shows just 19 new cases all but 2 are in Wuhan

The mainland has had 80,754 confirmed cases and 3,136 deaths since the outbreak began at the end of last year
JHutch
10 March 2020 10:46:43

Been following this thread but haven't really much to add. The government's strategy could prove to be the correct one or it could go very wrong - this kind of situation does not have a maximum realistic downside of 50 people or 100 people dying but conditions a lot worse than that. The incubation period is a real worry, with food poisoning you tend to know if you have it within hours, with this it seems like you can go round potentially infecting a lot of people before you know you have it (and some people who suffer mild symptoms may even then not know they have it).

Gavin D
10 March 2020 10:47:34
Barcelona v Napoli tomorrow will be played behind closed doors.
Gavin D
10 March 2020 10:51:54
Breaking: Austria closes its border to Italy
Maunder Minimum
10 March 2020 10:53:45

Breaking: Austria closes its border to Italy

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Crash! What is that sound? It is the sound of stable doors being slammed shut weeks after the horses bolted.


I wrote at the outset of the Italian situation that Austria, France and Switzerland should close their borders, but Dr Pangloss told me I was being "hysterical".


 


New world order coming.
NickR
10 March 2020 10:56:44
The UK is beginning to look very isolated in its approach of not isolating itself.
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Maunder Minimum
10 March 2020 10:59:06

The UK is beginning to look very isolated in its approach of not isolating itself.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


We are being externally isolated by default. However, we are not internally isolating yet. But, there are some nuanced arguments around that topic - closing schools for example could be more damaging than keeping them open - the jury is still out on that one.


 


New world order coming.
howham
10 March 2020 10:59:38

The UK is beginning to look very isolated in its approach of not isolating itself.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


This is what taking back control looks like...

xioni2
10 March 2020 11:01:45


Crash! What is that sound? It is the sound of stable doors being slammed shut weeks after the horses bolted.


I wrote at the outset of the Italian situation that Austria, France and Switzerland should close their borders, but Dr Pangloss told me I was being "hysterical".


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Not sure about early on, but probably since early March when their cases started exploding. Some Brexiter commentators keep saying this was because of Schengen, but it has nothing to do with it. The Schengen treaty allows member states to completely close their borders with no notice and for several months.

Gavin D
10 March 2020 11:06:50
Breaking: Austria have suspended all flights and trains from and to Italy with immediate effect
westv
10 March 2020 11:07:41

The UK is beginning to look very isolated in its approach of not isolating itself.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Apart from Italy, which other countries have isolated themselves?


At least it will be mild!
speckledjim
10 March 2020 11:12:53


 


Apart from Italy, which other countries have isolated themselves?


Originally Posted by: westv 


None!


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Peter
10 March 2020 11:16:44


 


 


HFM affected mostly under 10s and was (current thinking) much more contagious than CVD. It also spread just as easily in animals as in humans.


The racing and gambling industry is worth billions in tax income. That’s an observation not necessarily a factor ☺️


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Foot and mouth was entirely about the animals, if one animal was found to be infected amongst a farmers livestock, their entire stock would have to be destroyed, it was horrendous.

NickR
10 March 2020 11:21:35


 


None!


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Numerous countries are stopping inbound flights from many countries - and much earlier than we did.


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Maunder Minimum
10 March 2020 11:24:19


 


None!


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Moldova and Israel to name but two.


New world order coming.
Gandalf The White
10 March 2020 11:24:45


 


Crash! What is that sound? It is the sound of stable doors being slammed shut weeks after the horses bolted.


I wrote at the outset of the Italian situation that Austria, France and Switzerland should close their borders, but Dr Pangloss told me I was being "hysterical".


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


When you first said it you were being hysterical.


Just as when you said all cruise ships should be stopped.


 


Timing is everything.


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Brian Gaze
10 March 2020 11:25:11

We're probably around 20 to 30 infections in Berkhamsted. I think the situation in the UK is currently out of control. Lock down measures should be imposed now. If the Italian economy can afford it the UK can. There is no choice if we're to avoid a bloodbath IMHO. 


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Maunder Minimum
10 March 2020 11:25:48


When you first said it you were being hysterical.


Just as when you said all cruise ships should be stopped.


Timing is everything.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Yes it is and the timing has allowed the horses to bolt way across the fields.


Austria is today doing what it should have done over a week ago.


New world order coming.
NickR
10 March 2020 11:26:26


 


Moldova and Israel to name but two.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Serbia and Denmark (not total, but huge restrictions/stopping of flights from several countries, which is the point here).


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speckledjim
10 March 2020 11:30:11


 


Numerous countries are stopping inbound flights from many countries - and much earlier than we did.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


but they're not isolated


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Quantum
10 March 2020 11:30:27


 


When you first said it you were being hysterical.


Just as when you said all cruise ships should be stopped.


 


Timing is everything.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Because you don't know when it will explode. It could easily have happened in January, here, when the first cases appeared. You just don't know, and by the time you do the germinating seeds were planted about a week ago.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
speckledjim
10 March 2020 11:32:25


 


Because you don't know when it will explode. It could easily have happened in January, here, when the first cases appeared. You just don't know, and by the time you do the germinating seeds were planted about a week ago.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


you've been praising Singapore and SK but they didn't close their borders


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Maunder Minimum
10 March 2020 11:32:26


We're probably around 20 to 30 infections in Berkhamsted. I think the situation in the UK is currently out of control. Lock down measures should be imposed now. If the Italian economy can afford it the UK can. There is no choice if we're to avoid a bloodbath IMHO. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The Italian economy cannot afford it, but they have no choice unfortunately. The echoes from this event will reverberate for years to come.


The UK is being far too slow on cancelling flights from hotspots - should have been done weeks ago.


New world order coming.
Quantum
10 March 2020 11:32:33


 


Yes it is and the timing has allowed the horses to bolt way across the fields.


Austria is today doing what it should have done over a week ago.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Spain looks actually worse than Italy. Italy is still not showing true exponential growth yet but Spain is. Spain will overtake Italy in a couple of weeks.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
10 March 2020 11:35:03


 


The Italian economy cannot afford it, but they have no choice unfortunately. The echoes from this event will reverberate for years to come.


The UK is being far too slow on cancelling flights from hotspots - should have been done weeks ago.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Hotspots are increasingly irrelevant. You need to close off internal ones too. We officially have 6 cases here. Obviously it's far higher than that. You really are missing the point. 


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Berkhamsted
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