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Justin W
15 March 2020 18:19:05


 


This says 'as of 20 Feb', so it's either the figure on that date or the average for the period up to 20 Feb? 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Dunno. It’s very cloudy.


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Justin W
15 March 2020 18:20:39


 


The Italian rate averaged over the period 24 Feb (first deaths) - 15 March is 4.65%.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Totals to today:


Positives: 24,747


Deaths:  1,809


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Saint Snow
15 March 2020 18:22:38


 


Not sure what others think about that figure but even accounting for Italy's aged population that is alamringly high 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


 


It is always going to be a false rate, as there's nowhere near 100% testing, and we know for an absolute fact that a high proportion of those infected show little or no symptoms. Eminent experts in the field of epidemiology have stated their belief that in the UK there are many multiples of people infected in relation to the official figures.


My mum & dad are now self isolating. My dad especially idxs social creature, out at the club 3 or 4 nights a week for a game of dominoes or snooker and a good craic with his pals (all similarly 70+). In addition, the pair of them won't now be having our two daughters once a week after school, instead just dropping them off here to wait till Mrs S gets home on her 'full day'. And also the pair of them are stopping their trips to places like M&S, Dunelm, garden centres for a coffee (just to get out the house for a couple of hours).


I personally think this lack of social interaction will kill my dad especially quicker than Covid-19.


I hate this. 


 


 


I think this



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xioni2
15 March 2020 18:23:09


 Dunno. It’s very cloudy.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I know yeah, I remember reading that the Wuhan daily rate also followed a curve with a double digit peak, but I can't remember the source. That study estimates the peak at 12%.


 

Ally Pally Snowman
15 March 2020 18:24:54

Just noticed that more people died of Covid19 today in the UK than China. 


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Bugglesgate
15 March 2020 18:27:25


But surely, if they’re only testing those who are in hospital, a lower number of tests means lower admissions. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


That was my thought  as well - but maybe less people are being admitted at a weekend ?


 


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xioni2
15 March 2020 18:28:46

I am not sure I should be posting this, but here is the daily curve in Italy


ozone_aurora
15 March 2020 18:28:48

Breaking: Italy report 3,590 new cases and 368 new deaths

total now 24,747 cases and 1,809 deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


It seems that the lockdown has not worked?

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15 March 2020 18:30:07


 Naughty school, in that case. Schools were told by Government on Thursday they HAD to send these out on Friday.


Of course, that involves a hell of a lot of work (I'd estimate a total of 34 man-hours of IT work alone on Friday, not counting the time spent teaching teachers and giving the kids their logins) and I'm not surprised that not all schools managed it.


 

Originally Posted by: Retron 


The one still at school uses VMWare Horizon and she does quite a lot of work on it. The school said last week if forced to close they would continue with this remote desktops approach but on a much greater scale. In other words if it becomes the norm, from 9am to 3pm means no Minecraft/chit chat as classes would somehow continue but in a different format. Or so they said but nothing like this has happened so I expect quite a lot is going on behind the school scenes this weekend. We'll see.


No new letter but the theory last week was either closing Wednesday or more likely Friday. A W/E science fair was cancelled today.


If there is to be geographical isolation and some kind of road checkpoint system, I assume the school would have to close anyway.


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xioni2
15 March 2020 18:32:20


 It seems that the lockdown has not worked?


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


There is probably a lag of 1-3 weeks.


 

David M Porter
15 March 2020 18:33:09


 


It seems that the lockdown has not worked?


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Assuming those figures are accurate, I would suggest not.


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Gavin D
15 March 2020 18:33:21


 


It seems that the lockdown has not worked?


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


 


It took about 10 days in China before cases dropped. Italy are about 1 week in for Lombardy

xioni2
15 March 2020 18:34:17


 Assuming those figures are accurate, I would suggest not.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


There is a lag David, those who die today would have spent some time in intensive care and they would have been infected weeks ago. 

Gavin D
15 March 2020 18:34:35
Horse racing going behind closed doors in the UK

Brian Gaze
15 March 2020 18:36:32

EU to pool members' health resources


The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.


The president of the European Commission, Ursula Von der Leyen, said the aim was to ramp up the production of protective equipment like masks and suits, and to prevent it being exported outside of the bloc without authorisation from EU governments.


Under the measures, equipment would be shared across EU members instead of each country making it for their own use.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51895276


 


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15 March 2020 18:36:40


My mum & dad are now self isolating. My dad especially idxs social creature, out at the club 3 or 4 nights a week for a game of dominoes or snooker and a good craic with his pals (all similarly 70+). In addition, the pair of them won't now be having our two daughters once a week after school, instead just dropping them off here to wait till Mrs S gets home on her 'full day'. And also the pair of them are stopping their trips to places like M&S, Dunelm, garden centres for a coffee (just to get out the house for a couple of hours).


I personally think this lack of social interaction will kill my dad especially quicker than Covid-19.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Sorry to hear that Saint.


I've been thinking garden centres since the 70 year old home confinement idea was mooted could be one of the first casualties of this event. 


 


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xioni2
15 March 2020 18:37:26


  It took about 10 days in China before cases dropped. Italy are about 1 week in for Lombardy


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Yes, but the Wuhan lockdown was more draconian (people were forced to stay inside their flats). The state organised home deliveries of groceries and medicine, remote working, learning, doctor surgeries, justice etc.

ozone_aurora
15 March 2020 18:51:01


 


 


It is always going to be a false rate, as there's nowhere near 100% testing, and we know for an absolute fact that a high proportion of those infected show little or no symptoms. Eminent experts in the field of epidemiology have stated their belief that in the UK there are many multiples of people infected in relation to the official figures.


My mum & dad are now self isolating. My dad especially idxs social creature, out at the club 3 or 4 nights a week for a game of dominoes or snooker and a good craic with his pals (all similarly 70+). In addition, the pair of them won't now be having our two daughters once a week after school, instead just dropping them off here to wait till Mrs S gets home on her 'full day'. And also the pair of them are stopping their trips to places like M&S, Dunelm, garden centres for a coffee (just to get out the house for a couple of hours).


I personally think this lack of social interaction will kill my dad especially quicker than Covid-19.


I hate this. 


 


 


I think this


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I'm sorry to hear that, too, Saint!

I'm no longer able to see my Mum at a nursing home, following a massive stroke last year. I'm very glad they're protecting the vulnerable, something I'm accepting, but it looks like I won't be able to see her anymore.  

Justin W
15 March 2020 18:52:01


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Chichesterweatherfan2
15 March 2020 18:53:44
Even worse for those self isolating at home will be the fact that most will sit in front of their TV’s watching News 24/7 or contributing on line on threads like this...that will be seriously injurious to their well being...far better if they ring up friends, chat on the phone, read some good books, listen to music etc etc and rely on good neighbours to do their shopping....
Brian Gaze
15 March 2020 18:55:12


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The Beast from the East
15 March 2020 19:00:33


 


I agree and as repeatedly has been said it is happening in a wealthy region (by anyone's standards) with one of the best health systems in the world. The UK government simply can not run the risk of the same thing happening here and must lockdown immediately. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


But we all know wops are dirty and don't wash their hands


Same for the Dagos, and they all smoke


Cummings is suppressing the testing over here to make the figures look better, and Murdoch will help with the con


 


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The Beast from the East
15 March 2020 19:02:42


Current mortality rate in Italy is 7.3%


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


What a lifetime of smoking does to the lungs of older people


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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The Beast from the East
15 March 2020 19:04:57

Is there a Cobra meeting tomorrow

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Hope not


I don't want my pub to close. I will go mental 


Please Cummings, keep the beaches open like the Mayor of Amytiville


 


 


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warrenb
15 March 2020 19:06:03
Doctor on 5 live has just said that we will all get this, there is no running away from it. Locking down is just delaying when you will get it, not stopping you getting it. And I think this is what needs to be emphasised, as we can’t run away from this.

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