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Quantum
16 March 2020 19:50:38

I honestly think I have it (and partly because I'm part of a transmission chain to a confirmed case)


GF has come down with more typical symptoms. Cough (although intermittent, mostly only in the morning), fever, tiredness dizzyness e.c.t.


I've only got gastrointestinal symptoms, although she had it too (although worse than me).


Otherwise I feel absolutely fine.


 


Is very wierd though, because if we do have COVID then maybe a slightly different strain? The original wuhan strain did not have gastrointestinal symptoms in 95%+ of cases. Wheras for us they are primary symptoms.


 


 

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Gavin D
16 March 2020 19:51:20
Highest daily number for new cases in France with 1,210 a slight fall in new deaths down 15 to 21
xioni2
16 March 2020 19:54:23


I honestly think I have it (and partly because I'm part of a transmission chain to a confirmed case)


GF has come down with more typical symptoms. Cough (although intermittent, mostly only in the morning), fever, tiredness dizzyness e.c.t.


I've only got gastrointestinal symptoms, although she had it too (although worse than me).


Otherwise I feel absolutely fine.


 Is very wierd though, because if we do have COVID then maybe a slightly different strain? The original wuhan strain did not have gastrointestinal symptoms in 95%+ of cases. Wheras for us they are primary symptoms.


 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


If your gf has it, then you'd have it too (unless you have sex in hazmat suits). Your symptoms will probably follow, the gastro stuff probably a coincidence.


You'll be fine and then probably immune to it. It'd be funny though if after all the extreme measures you had taken, you were the first person here to get it. I think Beast had predicted it!
 


 

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16 March 2020 19:55:42


 


 She is not too keen on Boris.


Originally Posted by: bledur 

  Then it’s best she keeps her distance from him!

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David M Porter
16 March 2020 19:56:27


 


Italy closed its 'borders' with China in late Jan, but still got the biggest epidemic (to date). What else should have they done at the time? Close all their borders with everyone?


I agree that European countries (including the UK) should probably have put travel restrictions to/from Italy in February, but we (and they) didn't even screen passengers coming from Italy!


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


The problem with that was that by the time the Italians stopped all travel between their country and China in late Jan, the epidemic was in all likelihood already taking off in Italy big time. Let's not forget either that Chinese New Year was around that time; there would have been many, many people travelling between China and countries all over the world at that point. While I cannot claim to be any kind of an expert on this thing, I wouldn't mind betting that CNY was one of the reasons as to why this virus has spread like wildfire over much of the world.


I can't help but feel that a great many governments, especially many in Europe including the UK, have been caught completely off-guard by this disease.

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"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Maunder Minimum
16 March 2020 19:56:28


 


You seem to admire Singapore and yet you have explicitly said that you will not obey the Govt's requested restriction on visiting pubs.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Because there is zero risk in visiting the local at the moment. It is a village pub down the lane and I can easily sit a couple of yards from anyone else, plus I wash my hands whenever I am or have been in company. West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.

New world order coming.
xioni2
16 March 2020 19:58:00


 Because there is zero risk in visiting the local at the moment. It is a village pub down the lane and I can easily sit a couple of yards from anyone else, plus I wash my hands whenever I am or have been in company. West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Isn't it usually the other way round?


Justin W
16 March 2020 19:58:47


 


Because there is zero risk in visiting the local at the moment. It is a village pub down the lane and I can easily sit a couple of yards from anyone else, plus I wash my hands whenever I am or have been in company. West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


That is patently untrue. They are worried about asymptomatic carriers. Those with symptoms have been told to isolate - so it stands to reason that gathering point restrictions are about asymptomatic sufferers. Otherwise, why would they introduce it.


You are being selfish, IMO. I go to the pub here (a tiny local) once a week. I love it. It pains me to say it but I will heed the request. And so should you.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Bugglesgate
16 March 2020 19:59:24


 


If your gf has it, then you'd have it too (unless you have sex in hazmat suits). Your symptoms will probably follow, the gastro stuff probably a coincidence.


You'll be fine and then probably immune to it.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


Yes, this is a real issue with "self diagnosis".  It's perfectly possible  to have 2 things at the same time.  I have had low level cold systems for a  week or so now.  If I also developed Corona virus  the snotty nose and sneezing   could misleading  if I had developed both more coincidentally.


 

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Maunder Minimum
16 March 2020 19:59:58


 


The problem with that was that by the time the Italians stopped all travel between their country and China in late Jan, the epidemic was in all likelihood already taking off in Italy big time. Let's not forget either that Chinese New Year was around that time; there would have been many, many people travelling between China and countries all over the world at that point. While I cannot claim to be any kind of an expert on this thing, I wouldn't mind betting that CNY was one of the reasons as to why this virus has spread like widefire over much of the world.


I can't help but feel that a great many governments, especially many in Europe including the UK, have been caught completely off-guard by this disease.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


It is lost in history now, but the current thinking is that the epidemic in Italy dates back to late January, but went unnoticed. But since Italy is in Schengen, it was pointless them stopping travel from China in isolation - tourists from China could easily fly to Vienna or Geneva and wander around at will in Schengenland without any checks until and unless they fell ill. One of the favourites for Chinese tourists, was to fly to Vienna or Prague and then do the grand tour through to Italy.

New world order coming.
xioni2
16 March 2020 20:00:12


 West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I think nobody knows the full picture in Worcestershire or anywhere else.

Justin W
16 March 2020 20:02:13


 


Because there is zero risk in visiting the local at the moment. It is a village pub down the lane and I can easily sit a couple of yards from anyone else, plus I wash my hands whenever I am or have been in company. West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


What you are basically saying is that the rules do not apply to you. I am surprised and disappointed.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Maunder Minimum
16 March 2020 20:02:55


 


That is patently untrue. They are worried about asymptomatic carriers. Those with symptoms have been told to isolate - so it stands to reason that gathering point restrictions are about asymptomatic sufferers. Otherwise, why would they introduce it.


You are being selfish, IMO. I go to the pub here (a tiny local) once a week. I love it. It pains me to say it but I will heed the request. And so should you.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Well, the real boss is "her indoors" and she may stop me going in any case


She has already cancelled our visit to see daughter and family on Wednesday, which really is upsetting, since it is her 40th birthday (our daughter's).


 

New world order coming.
Heavy Weather 2013
16 March 2020 20:06:48
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Mark
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Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gooner
16 March 2020 20:07:29


 


What you are basically saying is that the rules do not apply to you. I am surprised and disappointed.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Which backs up my argument there will be 1,000's like MM 

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Justin W
16 March 2020 20:08:46


 


Well, the real boss is "her indoors" and she may stop me going in any case


She has already cancelled our visit to see daughter and family on Wednesday, which really is upsetting, since it is her 40th birthday (our daughter's).


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Perhaps it's time to take responsibility for yourself?


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Bugglesgate
16 March 2020 20:09:48


 


Because there is zero risk in visiting the local at the moment. It is a village pub down the lane and I can easily sit a couple of yards from anyone else, plus I wash my hands whenever I am or have been in company. West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I'm sorry, there is no such thing as "zero risk"  with this in a public place like a pub. 


It only takes a moments lapse to transfer a hand that has been resting on a table to your face.  None of us are perfect.  I'm currently being very careful at work with hand washing (etc).  but a couple of times today I lapsed and  a hand that  had  been on stair rails and  tables  was on my face.   I have no idea which of my work colleges may be incubating this bloody thing or even  carrying it around asymptomatically.  A week or so on and the likelihood of my infrequent lapses  causing me to be infected will have increased many fold.  This is why the vulnerable and old are being to  to isolate - this thing is bloody infectious  and most of us not  self quarantining are  going to get it - all we can do is try and make sure we don't all get it at once !


 


 


 


 

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
bledur
16 March 2020 20:10:29


 


Because there is zero risk in visiting the local at the moment. It is a village pub down the lane and I can easily sit a couple of yards from anyone else, plus I wash my hands whenever I am or have been in company. West Worcestershire is safe from COVID-19 at the moment - if my son-in-law informs me otherwise (and he knows the true picture in Worcestershire) then I shall change my behaviour.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 Quite right ,you have to use common sense which seems to be be in short supply

Justin W
16 March 2020 20:11:04


 


 Quite right ,you have to use common sense which seems to be be in short supply


Originally Posted by: bledur 


Breathtaking

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Heavy Weather 2013
16 March 2020 20:11:32


 


Well, the real boss is "her indoors" and she may stop me going in any case


She has already cancelled our visit to see daughter and family on Wednesday, which really is upsetting, since it is her 40th birthday (our daughter's).


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


MM I am disappointed. You were vehemently pro closing borders to keep it out. Now it’s in. You should also be trying the reduce the spread. 


We all have a role to play in this. You seem to have developed a softly softly approach inline with Tory Party HQ

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
16 March 2020 20:13:52


 


Breathtaking


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


This is exactly why we should close all establishments.


People are so selfish.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
noodle doodle
16 March 2020 20:14:32


I honestly think I have it (and partly because I'm part of a transmission chain to a confirmed case)


GF has come down with more typical symptoms. Cough (although intermittent, mostly only in the morning), fever, tiredness dizzyness e.c.t.


I've only got gastrointestinal symptoms, although she had it too (although worse than me).


Otherwise I feel absolutely fine.


 


Is very wierd though, because if we do have COVID then maybe a slightly different strain? The original wuhan strain did not have gastrointestinal symptoms in 95%+ of cases. Wheras for us they are primary symptoms.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 


I doubt either of you have got it - even if the number of cases in the UK is actually 100,000+ rather than 1,000+ that's still less than 1 in 600 people


Much more likely you shared a meal with some dodgy meat if the trots are the main symptom

xioni2
16 March 2020 20:16:14


You seem to have developed a softly softly approach inline with Tory Party HQ


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


MM is rather susceptible to the line of the (mostly Tory) press on most matters.


 

Maunder Minimum
16 March 2020 20:20:09


 


 


I doubt either of you have got it - even if the number of cases in the UK is actually 100,000+ rather than 1,000+ that's still less than 1 in 600 people


Much more likely you shared a meal with some dodgy meat if the trots are the main symptom


Originally Posted by: noodle doodle 


This highlights an issue - coughs, colds, snizzles and tummy upsets are still doing the rounds as normal - how are people to know if they merely have a normal bug or if it is the start of COVID-19? - answer is that you have no idea.


The CMO in the press conference stated that the government really needs to test people to see if they have had COVID-19 and that such tests are now being produced. Without knowing who had it without knowing it, we are in the dark.

New world order coming.
Gavin D
16 March 2020 20:20:29
Current estimates are that between 35,000 and 50,000 in the UK have already had Coronavirus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51917562 
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