Same applies - lack of foresight.

Seconded

Tory MP responding to valid question from a constituent 

https://twitter.com/pauline_latham/status/1238903676934160384?s=21

These people are monsters.

I'll allow myself a sightly tongue in cheek reply, DrM. You'd better bear in mind I am midway through Robert Plomin's intriguing "Blueprint". I suspect we all know the limitations of the UK's exam industry. Some may even know Plomin's take on heritability.

1. We pass all this cohort of pupils/students "Aegrotat".


2. All pupil applications for jobs/further study will be given a supporting letter of confirmation from school/college that the student is at an appropriate level to proceed.


3. We then sit back and see it this proves a better way to approach validation of educational achievement. It just might be. The spotlight will be on the schools and colleges to do a good job of assessment. Cheap too. And undeniably more hygienic! Plomin would love such data.

Roger

p.s. ...and school letters of confirmation could be done on line from home....

R.

I can only speak for my reality. I have a friend who is asthmatic (not chronic). She is married with 2 boys (aged 10 and 12). She has announced that she is self isolating for 12 weeks and will see us all in June. In theory she should be able to do that as her husband will work from home (as per govt advice) and can deal with the kids, he can also sleep in the spare room. She will still see her kids and interact with them but she will keep her distance. 

Seeing as the biggest requirement for ICUs comes from the elderly with an underlying condition then I don't see how they can't self isolate. They should never come into contact with school children if they follow govt advice.

Many young Conservatives think like that. If they reach middle age and still think like that it is a sign of mental illness IMHO and should be treated as such.

You don’t get it either

The wife of our finance manager has a high temperature / coughing and aches but told she wont be tested - now in self isolation for 14 days , a good chance she has the virus but another case that wont be registered 

We now have 4 people off in self isolation after advice received but N Oxfordshire has no cases ?

I'm with you on this , some clearly don't 

No point testing people who don't need hospitalisation, provided they self isolate.

As the CMO said last night - what is really required is a test to see who has had the virus - that will be happening before long.

Who to believe? Maunder or the WHO?

She cant talk , hardly move , the bed is wet with sweat ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,she'll be ok eh?

That sounds bad , is there a danger that its decided by age ? 

He's still down the pub ………….eh MM ?

Sounds awful. Several accounts pointing to the fatigue as being absolutely crippling - fatigue and breathlessness meaning even a few words leaves sufferers utterly drained and out of breath.

How old is she?

They will find alternative ways to entertain themselves and keep busy - even earn a bit of money, Beast...

Coronavirus: Toilet roll and soap thefts shuts Lincolnshire public toilets

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51916397

R.

According to Jason ( husband ) she is really struggling , now one of the twins has it , Tash is in her early 40's 

Did I read somewhere a doctor was treating a number of 40 year olds who were in a very serious way? ( on ventilators ) 

Are you going to keep your children isolated at home once the school closes? If not, then it won't work.....

Let's carry on as normal as some people are saying this morning. A government has the responsibility to  be clear. Obviously many people do not think this is the case. 

Lack of clear school policy has 'created rising sense of panic'

The teachers' union NASUWT said the lack of "clear and definitive" direction from the government over what schools should do during the virus outbreak has "created a rising sense of panic".

Acting general secretary Chris Keates said: "The NASUWT has to date been advising our members in the context of the advice issued by governments and administrations and public health bodies across the UK.

"However, the lack of clear information with regard to the steps to protect teachers, headteachers and other staff working in schools in the context of commentators constantly referring to the threats posed by children carrying COVID-19 is causing chaos and confusion and placing intolerable pressure on all staff in schools and their families."

The key will be the death rate and hospitalisation levels.

Defending the vulnerable is key and I think that keeping schools open does mean that transmission amongst the young continues and should increase herd immunity whatever they might claim. It's a game of risk because they know already that young people almost always show mild symptoms but the gamble is that they are then relying on them avoiding contact with the vulnerable. 

Awful.

And yes  re. your other post - I saw stats yesterday but can't find them now - in the UK (or London, can't remember), 4.9% of 40-49 yos need hospitalisation. Can't remember what % of those need ICU.

If I had children, would I keep them at home through this? Yes, absolutely. You don't seem to understand the magnitude of the threat and why other countries are basically shutting down everything. That will happen here - once Johnson realises that he is going to be responsible for a disaster. You haven't grasped if from the start.