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fairweather
18 March 2020 20:05:47

There is an elephant in the room here isn't there. The amount of money this will now cost and the amount of money that it is being thrown at the problem. I wonder how all those government ministers over the past decade (and before) are feeling. The ones that said there was no money. Suddenly there is. Think if the same amount of money had been spent on new hospitals and bringing care standards up to that which we would have expected by the year 2020. In a measured way. The technology has improved in our hospitals since the turn of the century but I believe the standard of care has gone down in some areas. A decent modern society should have been better prepared for this and in fact better prepared for the state of the Nation's health before this.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Heavy Weather 2013
18 March 2020 20:07:01


 


This government are IMO the political equivalent of the crew that were in charge of the Titanic in 1912.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


There was a report on Sky a moment ago. They were interviewing hordes of young people in pubs and all saying we will carry on normal. 


Its a disgrace. People are so selfish. 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Justin W
18 March 2020 20:07:14

The London numbers are extremely worrying and suggest that tens of thousands are already infected.


We are days from a health meltdown.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
JHutch
18 March 2020 20:07:30


I have a fuel stockpile but I keep both the BMW and the Defender more than half full at all times. So if the needle is on the halfway mark, it is time to fill up.


This afternoon I went to fill the Defender. There was no diesel at the local garage, no diesel at Tesco in Ashford and none at Sainsbury’s. I had to drive 15 miles to Hythe to find some and then queue to get onto the forecourt.


Things are moving at pace. I do think there is a small but growing risk of a total economic collapse.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I mentioned on here earlier that there was a big queue at my closest petrol station. 

xioni2
18 March 2020 20:08:23


There is an elephant in the room here isn't there. The amount of money this will now cost and the amount of money that it is being thrown at the problem. I wonder how all those government ministers over the past decade (and before) are feeling. The ones that said there was no money. Suddenly there is. Think if the same amount of money had been spent on new hospitals and bringing care standards up to that which we would have expected by the year 2020. In a measured way. The technology has improved in our hospitals since the turn of the century but I believe the standard of care has gone down in some areas. A decent modern society should have been better prepared for this and in fact better prepared for the state of the Nation's health before this.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 



The magic money tree appears only in certain seasons and for specific harvests.


 

Chunky Pea
18 March 2020 20:08:25


Things are moving at pace. I do think there is a small but growing risk of a total economic collapse.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I am hearing talk of this alright. But if true, then expect the political order across Europe to change dramatically in accordance.

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Heavy Weather 2013
18 March 2020 20:09:18
I agree with Justin. In the current climate it won’t take much for their to be a fuel crisis and/or a run on the banks.

The dow dropped another 6%. No medicine the governments are giving are sorting anything out.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
warrenb
18 March 2020 20:09:42


 


I mentioned on here earlier that there was a big queue at my closest petrol station. 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


The joys of having an electric car

Tonbridge 45m 
westv
18 March 2020 20:10:36


There have been some quite cruel and cynical remarks on here in the last couple of days and lack of empathy for those youngsters having their exams cancelled. The following may help you to see how devastating it can be in their lives and remind you of how it was to be an 18 year old:-


 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


That surprises me as it's not something I have noticed.

At least it will be mild!
Caz
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18 March 2020 20:11:07


 


The joys of having an electric car


Originally Posted by: warrenb 

  And the joys of working from home!

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warrenb
18 March 2020 20:13:27


  And the joys of working from home!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I have both. It is like winning the lottery 😄

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SJV
18 March 2020 20:13:34


The London numbers are extremely worrying and suggest that tens of thousands are already infected.


We are days from a health meltdown.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


What worries me, even though I'm probably (edit: almost certainly) wrong, is how reliant we seem to be on models, waiting for certain thresholds to be reached before we act on them.


Surely it stands to reason, given our lack of comprehensive testing of Covid-19, that, as you suggest Justin, we have many more cases than anticipated. It still feels like the virus is one step ahead. It does not feel like we have it supressed under our thumb put it that way. I agree we are a knife edge away from a catastrophe. It is such a difficult balance.

bledur
18 March 2020 20:16:16


A breakdown of the data from PHE is now available 


New cases



  • England - 2,182 +625

  • Northern Ireland - 68 +6

  • Scotland - 227 +32

  • Wales - 149 +13


Total new cases - 676


NHS Regions



  • London - 953 +332

  • South East - 285 +44

  • Midlands - 234 +94

  • North West - 180 +23

  • North East and Yorkshire - 168 +94

  • East of England - 128 +35

  • South West - 117 +22


Changes with yesterday 


Local Authorities top 10 with the most confirmed cases


 



  1. Hampshire - 77

  2. Southwark - 70

  3. Westminster - 68

  4. Lambeth - 61

  5. Wandsworth - 59

  6. Kensington and Chelsea - 55

  7. Hertfordshire - 50

  8. Brent - 45

  9. Ealing - 42

  10. Harrow - 40


Local Authorities with the fewest confirmed cases


 



  1. Hartlepool - 1

  2. Redcar and Cleveland - 1

  3. Blackburn with Darwen - 1

  4. Kingston upon Hull, City of - 1

  5. North Lincolnshire - 1

  6. Stoke-on-Trent - 1

  7. Bedford -1

  8. Knowsley - 1

  9. Solihull - 1

  10. Gateshead - 1


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 But how much more testing has been done?

fairweather
18 March 2020 20:16:17


 


This is very sad to read, even more so knowing your grandson won't be alone in feeling his world is crumbling.


Society is effectively shutting down, slowly and painfully. We can say it is for the greater good, to minimise disruption as much as we can, but it doesn't change how we feel when one of our own is so deeply affected. There will always be individual stories like yours which bring a sobering reality to what is a surreal period in time.


My sympathies.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Thank you but he is resilient (I think) and when they start to speak to their mates and realise they are not alone they will feel better.. And as you say, I was just using this as an illustration of how many young people will be feeling right now. It shows that this impinges on everybody, not just those whose health is directly threatened. I will certainly try and be more restrained in any comments I might make and less judgemental although I know haw hard that can be with strong feelings on a subject.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Maunder Minimum
18 March 2020 20:18:04


There is an elephant in the room here isn't there. The amount of money this will now cost and the amount of money that it is being thrown at the problem. I wonder how all those government ministers over the past decade (and before) are feeling. The ones that said there was no money. Suddenly there is. Think if the same amount of money had been spent on new hospitals and bringing care standards up to that which we would have expected by the year 2020. In a measured way. The technology has improved in our hospitals since the turn of the century but I believe the standard of care has gone down in some areas. A decent modern society should have been better prepared for this and in fact better prepared for the state of the Nation's health before this.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


The money comes with a catch - either hyper-inflation or a millstone of debt.


This is a crisis equivalent to total war - that is not the same thing as irresponsibly printing money in more normal times.

New world order coming.
Bugglesgate
18 March 2020 20:18:30


 


That surprises me as it's not something I have noticed.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Nor me 


It's going to be a tough time for the young and old alike - I should imagine starting out  career and life wise in  economic aftermath of this will be especially tough for the young


At the other end of the spectrum Dad's older brother died  last weekend - he was the last member of his direct  family (dad is the youngest at 86).  They can't hold a proper funeral becuase of Corona virus and Dad wouldn't be able to attend if they did.  He can't get proper closure on this.  They are planning on having a celebration of uncle Jack's life when they can get the older members of the family together for it - Lord alone knows when that will be and it's   not inconceivable that a lot will never make it 

Chris (It,its)
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Justin W
18 March 2020 20:21:45

Unbelievably my sister (who I am estranged from) flew to the Maldives with her partner on Saturday. A two week holiday. On Monday, the Maldives banned flights from the UK.


At the start of a major pandemic and the biggest disaster since the War, my sister was going to have her holiday no matter what.


A small part of me thinks I may never see her again.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
18 March 2020 20:22:45


 At the other end of the spectrum Dad's older brother died  last weekend - he was the last member of his direct  family (dad is the youngest at 86).  They can't hold a proper funeral becuase of Corona virus and Dad wouldn't be able to attend if they did.  He can't get proper closure on this.  They are planning on having a celebration of uncle Jack's life when they can get the older members of the family together for it - Lord alone knows when that will be and it's   not inconceivable that a lot will never make it 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Of all the posts, yours Chris, really affected me.


 

Chunky Pea
18 March 2020 20:23:19


 


Nor me 


It's going to be a tough time for the young and old alike - I should imagine starting out  career and life wise in  economic aftermath of this will be especially tough for the young


At the other end of the spectrum Dad's older brother died  last weekend - he was the last member of his direct  family (dad is the youngest at 86).  They can't hold a proper funeral becuase of Corona virus and Dad wouldn't be able to attend if they did.  He can't get proper closure on this.  They are planning on having a celebration of uncle Jack's life when they can get the older members of the family together for it - Lord alone knows when that will be and it's   not inconceivable that a lot will never make it 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Awful Bugglesgate, and sorry for your loss. 

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fairweather
18 March 2020 20:24:19


 


Nor me 


It's going to be a tough time for the young and old alike - I should imagine starting out  career and life wise in  economic aftermath of this will be especially tough for the young


At the other end of the spectrum Dad's older brother died  last weekend - he was the last member of his direct  family (dad is the youngest at 86).  They can't hold a proper funeral becuase of Corona virus and Dad wouldn't be able to attend if they did.  He can't get proper closure on this.  They are planning on having a celebration of uncle Jack's life when they can get the older members of the family together for it - Lord alone knows when that will be and it's   not inconceivable that a lot will never make it 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


There were a couple, mainly meant to be light hearted or flippant I'm sure. Everybody is affected I know, and many others in equally heart breaking ways. I just thought it might make people aware that it's just not the overtly vulnerable that are affected.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Justin W
18 March 2020 20:24:19


 


Nor me 


It's going to be a tough time for the young and old alike - I should imagine starting out  career and life wise in  economic aftermath of this will be especially tough for the young


At the other end of the spectrum Dad's older brother died  last weekend - he was the last member of his direct  family (dad is the youngest at 86).  They can't hold a proper funeral becuase of Corona virus and Dad wouldn't be able to attend if they did.  He can't get proper closure on this.  They are planning on having a celebration of uncle Jack's life when they can get the older members of the family together for it - Lord alone knows when that will be and it's   not inconceivable that a lot will never make it 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


My heart goes out to you and your dad, Chris

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
David M Porter
18 March 2020 20:26:19


 


Nor me 


It's going to be a tough time for the young and old alike - I should imagine starting out  career and life wise in  economic aftermath of this will be especially tough for the young


At the other end of the spectrum Dad's older brother died  last weekend - he was the last member of his direct  family (dad is the youngest at 86).  They can't hold a proper funeral becuase of Corona virus and Dad wouldn't be able to attend if they did.  He can't get proper closure on this.  They are planning on having a celebration of uncle Jack's life when they can get the older members of the family together for it - Lord alone knows when that will be and it's   not inconceivable that a lot will never make it 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


That is so, so sad Chris. My deepest condolences to you & your dad at this time.


Sadly, there will be an awful lot of families up and down this country who will be in the same awful position at the moment. This really is the stuff of nightmares.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Bolty
18 March 2020 20:33:16


 


I was a lazy ****** at school and got predicted Cs and Ds, knowing I would actually make the effort in the exams (and got straight As). This would have screwed me over big time!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Lol, it's quite amusing watching them all whinging on Twitter this evening saying they didn't try in their mocks and now they are going to get screwed over because of it. Well... what do they want me to say? You're told in Sixth Form, right from the beginning, that if your exams can't be held for whatever reason, you're predicted grades are most likely to be used.


So if they didn't try then it's tough sh*t. They ain't getting any sympathy off me.

Scott
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xioni2
18 March 2020 20:33:47

Gavin D
18 March 2020 20:35:43


 But how much more testing has been done?


Originally Posted by: bledur 


 


5,779 test results in the 24hrs to 9am 


 


They're increasing to 10,000 next week then 25,000 within 4-weeks

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