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DEW
  • DEW
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20 March 2020 11:30:56

By your own logic, anyone who goes to a supermarket or work or leaves the house is guilty. True if a lockdown is proposed. The problem is that people prefer a chance of getting coronavirus to immediately starving. 


Unless we impose Chinese total lockdown and confine people to their homes, this cannot be contained. Supported by the latest comparartive figures from China and Italy


 Just let it rip. This was HMG's position until someone worked out the number of deaths implied If Nadine Dorries can make a full recovery, so can we all All is indeed silly and worthy of a Boris soundbite - substitute 'most of us' and I'd agree


Beast from the East wrote:


 


 


Beast your position has moved from an alternative view through ignorance and is now borderline stupidity. If you can't present a sensible view then I suggest you don't bother at all.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


I can't see why Beast has been getting such a lot of flak for this. My notes in bold  but although Beast's comment is stark, he's not far wrong


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Quantum
20 March 2020 11:31:44

Slight dry cough today. Interesting.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gavin D
20 March 2020 11:34:49

Tractor Boy
20 March 2020 11:36:40

 


 


A friend off our estate messaged us before to say the local butcher has a load of meat available.


I never thought of going to the local butcher 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Our local butcher has a hand-written poster on his window saying 'Panic Buying Welcome Here'. He is (currently) well stocked with fresh meat, a good deli and stacks of frozen pies and meals.  


Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
llamedos
20 March 2020 11:38:24


 


 


Our local butcher has a hand-written poster on his window saying 'Panic Buying Welcome Here'. He is (currently) well stocked with fresh meat, a good deli and stacks of frozen pies and meals.  


Originally Posted by: Tractor Boy 


"Life with the Lions"

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Quantum
20 March 2020 11:39:26

Just an aside, if anyone gets called to a police interview it would be pretty easy to circumnavigate 'adverse inference' by continually demanding that the interview takes place in a suitably isolated environment and never being satisfied with that environment.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Roonie
20 March 2020 11:40:44


 


But as someone else who lives in Worcestershire, I would wager that you do not know a single person who has the contagion.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


I know 6 in the county personally who have or have had it so the figures are wrong..  


Still Lurking.......

North Worcestershire
SJV
20 March 2020 11:42:48


 


I can't see why Beast has been getting such a lot of flak for this. My notes in bold  but although Beast's comment is stark, he's not far wrong


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Simply letting it rip will quickly overwhelm and destroy our fragile health system and result in tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths.


 

Rob K
20 March 2020 11:47:40


 


 


Our local butcher has a hand-written poster on his window saying 'Panic Buying Welcome Here'. He is (currently) well stocked with fresh meat, a good deli and stacks of frozen pies and meals.  


Originally Posted by: Tractor Boy 


It’s depressing that while the big supermarkets are getting cleaned out people  still aren’t supporting local independent shops!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Essan
20 March 2020 11:48:13


I know 6 in the county personally who have or have had it so the figures are wrong..  


Originally Posted by: Roonie 



Who have tested positive?  Or think they have/had it? 


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
nsrobins
20 March 2020 11:51:36


 


 


 


I can't see why Beast has been getting such a lot of flak for this. My notes in bold  but although Beast's comment is stark, he's not far wrong


Originally Posted by: DEW 


I was referring specifically to his reference to Nadine Dorries and her mother (I am ignoring the support for visiting your local pub). It's true that many will recover without too many problems. It's also true many will also suffer and die. There's only so much head in the sand behavior you can tolerate.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Justin W
20 March 2020 11:55:55


 


 


 


I can't see why Beast has been getting such a lot of flak for this. My notes in bold  but although Beast's comment is stark, he's not far wrong


Originally Posted by: DEW 


And his insistence on going to the pub and then bragging about it? Is that 'not far wrong'?


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Roonie
20 March 2020 11:57:27



Who have tested positive?  Or think they have/had it? 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


 


Tested positive - my brother and his wife, parents of friends and 2 of their family members.


All are ok - all self isolated and none so far needing hospital



Still Lurking.......

North Worcestershire
Justin W
20 March 2020 11:58:45

A catastrophe in the making...




Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
JHutch
20 March 2020 11:59:09

Re: big supermarkets being stripped more than local shops. I suppose the panic buyers tend to go somewhere they know there should be a lot of stock and where they can fill their car up, therefore big supermarkets with car parks would likely be worse affected?


Re: Worcestershire, my sources have suggested some worrying developments there in the last day.


Number 10 have refused to criticise Tim Martin's comments about how the pubs should be kept open.


 


Haven't really stocked up much on food at all and that which I did was quite a while ago but then I live by myself and am the least fussy eater ever so a restricted diet of rice and tuna/breakfast cereals doesn't bother me so much.

Rob K
20 March 2020 11:59:39
Here is a timeline of Trump's comments on coronavirus:

Feb. 7 (tweet): "… as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone."

Feb. 10: "I think the virus is going to be — it's going to be fine."

Feb. 14: "We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It's like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we're in very good shape."

Feb. 19: "I think it's going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let's see what happens, but I think it's going to work out fine."

Feb. 24 (tweet): "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

Feb. 25: "You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They're all getting better. … As far as what we're doing with the new virus, I think that we're doing a great job."

Feb. 26: "Because of all we've done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That's a pretty good job we've done."

Feb. 28: "I think it's really going well. … We're prepared for the worst, but we think we're going to be very fortunate."

Feb. 28: "It's going to disappear. One day, it's like a miracle, it will disappear."

Feb. 28: "This is their new hoax."

March 4: "Some people will have this at a very light level and won't even go to a doctor or hospital, and they'll get better. There are many people like that."

March 9 (tweet): "So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!"

March 10: "And it hit the world. And we're prepared, and we're doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."

March 11: "I think we're going to get through it very well."

March 12: "It's going to go away. ... The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you're seeing coming out of other countries, it's pretty amazing when you think of it."

March 15: "This is a very contagious virus. It's incredible. But it's something that we have tremendous control over."

March 16: "If you're talking about the virus, no, that's not under control for any place in the world."

March 17: "I've always known this is a, this is a real, this is a pandemic … I've felt that it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
westv
20 March 2020 12:01:33


A catastrophe in the making...




Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Wasn't exactly the same picture posted a few days ago?


At least it will be mild!
Chichesterweatherfan2
20 March 2020 12:02:17

 



 


And his insistence on going to the pub and then bragging about it? Is that 'not far wrong'?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


i think it is far wrong ...and I think we all (and I most define include myself in this category) have to moderate our language but  to be fair to Beast, he did apologise for the post re Nadine Dories....I have no issue people calling out moronic behaviour of which there is sadly a lot of it about...but there are so many positive stories of people looking out for others less fortunate than themselves....as always has been the case, these  times bring out both the best and worst of people’s behaviour....

Justin W
20 March 2020 12:02:47


 


Wasn't exactly the same picture posted a few days ago?


Originally Posted by: westv 


Bit like your posts here


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Ulric
20 March 2020 12:04:56


Number 10 have refused to criticise Tim Martin's comments about how the pubs should be kept open.


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


They'll also fail to enforce closures of things which would allow businesses to invoke insurance to cover business interruption.


Arron Banks will be very happy about that.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Tractor Boy
20 March 2020 12:05:52

 


It’s depressing that while the big supermarkets are getting cleaned out people  still aren’t supporting local independent shops!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Agree.


It's nice to see the locals here being sensible too, waiting outside to let the shop keepers serve one or two at a time. Don't get me wrong, Co-op down the road is running low on some staple goods, but the little bakers below my office is doing a roaring trade with freshly baked bread. Provided neither the butcher nor baker go into isolation, we'll be ok for meat and bread for the foreseeable.


Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
Essan
20 March 2020 12:07:50


They'll also fail to enforce closures of things which would allow businesses to invoke insurance to cover business interruption.


Arron Banks will be very happy about that.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 




Apart from some very big companies, few business will have insurance to cover disease.    Business interruption cover is for floods, fire, severe weather etc  (and many smaller businesses won't even have that)


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
westv
20 March 2020 12:08:21


 


Bit like your posts here


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I'll take that as a "yes" then.


At least it will be mild!
Justin W
20 March 2020 12:08:41


 


Agree.


It's nice to see the locals here being sensible too, waiting outside to let the shop keepers serve one or two at a time. Don't get me wrong, Co-op down the road is running low on some staple goods, but the little bakers below my office is doing a roaring trade with freshly baked bread. Provided neither the butcher nor baker go into isolation, we'll be ok for meat and bread for the foreseeable.


Originally Posted by: Tractor Boy 


I've been visiting our local farm shop and our local independent shop in Stelling Minnis. The farm shop has a butcher who was fully stocked until three days ago when the locusts from Canterbury descended. He now has nothing apart from some bacon. But I have two full freezers so no problem. He did say that it would be eight weeks before chickens become available again because the country's stock has been exhausted. Dunno whether this is true.


The shop is Stelling Minnis has yet to be discovered by the crazies and remains fully stocked (apart from toilet roll and paracetamol). It is rationing milk, eggs, butter, cheese and bread to one per customer. Seems eminently sensible.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Justin W
20 March 2020 12:10:10


 


I'll take that as a "yes" then.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Perhaps you should look at the date of the tweet instead of posting your pointless and inane one liners. 


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?

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