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Lionel Hutz
21 March 2020 21:10:58


 


Possibly the NT's lawyers have been banging on about corporate liability.


Maybe they haven't printed the disclaimer notices "entirely at your own risk" and "all visitors must keep 2m apart" in a big enough font.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Perhaps but there's no telling some people. I went to an off licence earlier today( I know,  I should avoid shops but....). The girl behind the counter had put crates on the customer side to help keep customers at a distance. I was talking to her and she said that some people just didn't understand. Some people were insisting on getting closer to her by moving around the crates. Other people seemed to take it as a personal affront that they were being kept back from the cash till. Jesus wept......

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
21 March 2020 21:11:28

Cambridge University Botanic Garden is offering free admission until further notice


https://www.botanic.cam.ac.uk/cubg-to-open-free-of-charge/


"We believe that it is hugely important for there to be accessible outdoor spaces to support physical and mental health at this difficult time. Within our 40 acres, it is possible to enjoy the Garden, while still maintaining a safe distance from others, as set out in the Government’s guidelines. "

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Gavin D
21 March 2020 21:25:59
Breaking: Former Real Madrid president Lorenzo Sanz has died of coronavirus aged 76.
Gooner
21 March 2020 21:27:25

As of 17:20 latest count for today now at 1044 - 5027 confirmed 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gavin D
21 March 2020 21:34:20

Gooner
21 March 2020 21:39:43




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Then shut the shops other than those selling food ……………..proper food shops .

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
21 March 2020 21:40:28

Places with 0 cases:


Western Isles (Scotland)


Orkney (Scotland)


Telford and Wrekin (W midlands)


Rutland (E Midlands)


NE Lincolnshire (Yorks and Lincs)


 


I  believe these are the only 6 places left without confirmed cases.


 


 

2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Bugglesgate
21 March 2020 21:45:32


 


Then shut the shops other than those selling food ……………..proper food shops .


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Yes, I'm getting round to that point of view as well.  Garden Centre season is approaching and the decent weather will temp people to DIY shops as well.


Every shop visit is a risk, I'm  trying to minimise food shop visits but I'm seriously being hampered by the current grid lock  of the on-line delivery services.  Trying to set up delivery for my elderly folks is proving  very difficult so it's forcing me into the local shops around here to get stuff for them as well as myself !  The Govt needs to augment these on-line  services PDQ IMHO !

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Brian Gaze
21 March 2020 21:48:02




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Wuhan now. No choice. This is going to be slaughter. 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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"I'm not socialist, I know that. I don't believe in sharing my money." - Gary Numan
Gooner
21 March 2020 21:52:40


 


Wuhan now. No choice. This is going to be slaughter. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Things are that bad , I'm actually watching Maradona's film just to cheer me up , the virus makes '86 look like comedy 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Saint Snow
21 March 2020 21:54:08

This site is my main home for serious discussion and I've given it a swerve this last 24 hours, partly because I've had other stuff I needed to do and partly a deliberate intent to take a step away. I've not read any of today's 'Apocalypse News' on here.


As such, and in tandem with the sense that the restrictions now imposed should very much help stem the spread of infection, I've become far less anxious about it all.


A feeling of this being the nadir. Yes, confirmed cases and deaths will increase over the coming days & weeks, but I just can't help thinking we're now more active in taking practical steps to get a grip on this.


I'm convinced that not poring over the dissemination of every piece of news on here has helped. 


Perhaps I'm just in blissful ignorance, but I feel less fraught. 


We were booked into a Miller & Carter tonight (truly very good steaks) for a combined Mother's Day/Mrs S's birthday meal (I know, but we'd otherwise avoided pubs, bars, restaurants, cafes for about a fortnight) but obviously that was knocked on the head. Instead we ordered take-out Nandos. Own booze, sat round our own table. Could have been worse!


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
21 March 2020 22:02:32

On another note, I was at a client yesterday afternoon (last face to face visit for the foreseeable) and they are seeing business booming. They distribute 3d printing machines, and a lot  of companies looking to develop ventilators are buying them (they're upwards of £15k, the larger ones being bought by these companies more typically £50k each)


 


Massively cuts down on R&D timeframes 


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Heavy Weather 2013
21 March 2020 22:13:52


 


Wuhan now. No choice. This is going to be slaughter. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Agreed Brian. Have a look at this:


https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch


This has been updated to show when lockdown occured. If Boris does not lock this country down tomorrow it is a dereliction of duty.


When will the PM realise that strong words will no longer cut the mustard.


 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gandalf The White
21 March 2020 22:14:10


 


Wuhan now. No choice. This is going to be slaughter. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


With the greatest respect Brian, that's really not helpful.

Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
21 March 2020 22:15:46


On another note, I was at a client yesterday afternoon (last face to face visit for the foreseeable) and they are seeing business booming. They distribute 3d printing machines, and a lot  of companies looking to develop ventilators are buying them (they're upwards of £15k, the larger ones being bought by these companies more typically £50k each)


 


Massively cuts down on R&D timeframes 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


The contemporary equivalent of arms manufacturers in old style "conventional" wars.

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
fairweather
21 March 2020 22:15:56


 


More on that story:


https://www.keighleynews.co.uk/news/national/18322384.medical-ventilator-manufactured-matter-days/


A beautifully simple design which can be readily manufactured.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I'm not one to spring to the "proud to be British" movement but reading that genuinely moved me. Maybe it's more of a refreshment of UK humanity and enterprise which has been drastically lacking with the hoarders mentality so much on show.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
21 March 2020 22:18:32


 


With the greatest respect Brian, that's really not helpful.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


It may not be comfortable reading, but as we are currently on the same trajectory as Italy, I think he is being realistic.

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
doctormog
21 March 2020 22:18:38


This site is my main home for serious discussion and I've given it a swerve this last 24 hours, partly because I've had other stuff I needed to do and partly a deliberate intent to take a step away. I've not read any of today's 'Apocalypse News' on here.


As such, and in tandem with the sense that the restrictions now imposed should very much help stem the spread of infection, I've become far less anxious about it all.


A feeling of this being the nadir. Yes, confirmed cases and deaths will increase over the coming days & weeks, but I just can't help thinking we're now more active in taking practical steps to get a grip on this.


I'm convinced that not poring over the dissemination of every piece of news on here has helped. 


Perhaps I'm just in blissful ignorance, but I feel less fraught. 


We were booked into a Miller & Carter tonight (truly very good steaks) for a combined Mother's Day/Mrs S's birthday meal (I know, but we'd otherwise avoided pubs, bars, restaurants, cafes for about a fortnight) but obviously that was knocked on the head. Instead we ordered take-out Nandos. Own booze, sat round our own table. Could have been worse!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Lionel Hutz
21 March 2020 22:20:43


This site is my main home for serious discussion and I've given it a swerve this last 24 hours, partly because I've had other stuff I needed to do and partly a deliberate intent to take a step away. I've not read any of today's 'Apocalypse News' on here.


As such, and in tandem with the sense that the restrictions now imposed should very much help stem the spread of infection, I've become far less anxious about it all.


A feeling of this being the nadir. Yes, confirmed cases and deaths will increase over the coming days & weeks, but I just can't help thinking we're now more active in taking practical steps to get a grip on this.


I'm convinced that not poring over the dissemination of every piece of news on here has helped. 


Perhaps I'm just in blissful ignorance, but I feel less fraught. 


We were booked into a Miller & Carter tonight (truly very good steaks) for a combined Mother's Day/Mrs S's birthday meal (I know, but we'd otherwise avoided pubs, bars, restaurants, cafes for about a fortnight) but obviously that was knocked on the head. Instead we ordered take-out Nandos. Own booze, sat round our own table. Could have been worse!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I think that we're all on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster and I think that you're quite right that we need to take a step back from time to time and avoid hearing or reading about the virus. However, I do find it hard to tear myself away from it all at times too! I had a bit of a gloomfest myself this morning. Having an afternoon off from it all, though, did make me feel better. Bad and all as things will be, I am certain that things won't be as bad as some of the more apocalyptic predictions either. 


As for your nando's takeaway, we need to find comfort where we can. A nice evening at home sounds good. We're all off to the beach tomorrow. Might be a bit chilly for a picnic but then again the forecast is for sunshine tomorrow....


 


 


 

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Gandalf The White
21 March 2020 22:23:09


 


It may not be comfortable reading, but as we are currently on the same trajectory as Italy, I think he is being realistic.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


At this stage it is just speculation.  It might happen; I just don't think that sort of comment helps the mood.


 


I've been having conversations with my wife about how and where we get fresh fruit and vegetables. She's not keen on home delivery; I'm not keen on taking avoidable risks...


 

Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Rob K
21 March 2020 22:29:15


This site is my main home for serious discussion and I've given it a swerve this last 24 hours, partly because I've had other stuff I needed to do and partly a deliberate intent to take a step away. I've not read any of today's 'Apocalypse News' on here.


As such, and in tandem with the sense that the restrictions now imposed should very much help stem the spread of infection, I've become far less anxious about it all.


A feeling of this being the nadir. Yes, confirmed cases and deaths will increase over the coming days & weeks, but I just can't help thinking we're now more active in taking practical steps to get a grip on this.


I'm convinced that not poring over the dissemination of every piece of news on here has helped. 


Perhaps I'm just in blissful ignorance, but I feel less fraught. 


We were booked into a Miller & Carter tonight (truly very good steaks) for a combined Mother's Day/Mrs S's birthday meal (I know, but we'd otherwise avoided pubs, bars, restaurants, cafes for about a fortnight) but obviously that was knocked on the head. Instead we ordered take-out Nandos. Own booze, sat round our own table. Could have been worse!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Conversely I’ve been feeling far more depressed about everything today. Up to now I’ve been trying to focus on my own household and telling myself that worrying about the outside world is pointless. But there’s now a feeling that it’s accelerating day by day. The news that younger people are getting seriously ill and dying to a greater extent than previously thought is also concerning. It just seems to be a waiting game until someone I know is felled by this bug. 


Partly I think it is tiredness, I was up three times last night with my son waking up, and my mood is always worse when I haven’t slept. Hopefully a sunny bike ride tomorrow morning will sort my head out. 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
21 March 2020 22:31:34


 


At this stage it is just speculation.  It might happen; I just don't think that sort of comment helps the mood.


 


I've been having conversations with my wife about how and where we get fresh fruit and vegetables. She's not keen on home delivery; I'm not keen on taking avoidable risks...


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I don't think you can argue with the numbers. Sudden downward trends in those trajectory graphs just don't seem occur for any country and as yet we have not exactly been swift and draconian with our measures.


Getting food supplies equitably distributed to everyone is the government's next priority in my opinion.

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
fairweather
21 March 2020 22:36:39


​Coronavirus: Seaside visitors defy social distancing advice


 




Quote


Thousands of people have been heading to seaside attractions in the sunshine despite government advice to avoid social gatherings due to coronavirus. One beach in Sussex is to close, while Lincolnshire's police and crime commissioner called for caravan sites and arcades in Skegness to shut. PCC Marc Jones said there were "hundreds of thousands of visitors". West Wittering Beach was being shut at 18:00 GMT after "thousands" of people turned up, the estate office said.


There are also reports of large crowds along the East Yorkshire coast. Other resorts, including Brighton and Hove, were also reported to be busy.


'Arcades open'


Mr Jones said it was "time for everyone to be socially responsible or be made to be". Local councillor Jimmy Brookes said it was "madness," adding: "Skegness is packed, cafes and arcades are open." A member of the management team in West Wittering said: "The crowds were into the thousands - dispersed on to the large beach - but it's the method of getting here... we're at the end of a peninsular, there's one way in and one way out." 





 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-51988877?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR3h2QlSqY0Yfll4pbrTlMUicSKKvwRN-eGX7aYrIaFccSr93HZsCUe1IE4


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Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I'm afraid this is another thing the plebs just don't get. They will eventually but it will be too late. My daughter had to take my younger 14 year old grandson to have a brace fitted on Monday before the recent moves. There was only one other in the waiting room and she sat as far from him as possible. They exchanged pleasantries about how quiet it was which he seemed to think was a cue for him to spout off all his false facts. The usual they're not telling us everything. A baby just died (my daughter pointed out that it had recovered) and he added various other pub myths about. He then decided to say that he had read that 2 million people were going to die (unlikely) with no sensitivity to how that might make my grandson feel. Lucky I wasn't there as I would have said I hope your're effin' gonna be one of them!

S.Essex, 42m ASL
doctormog
21 March 2020 22:37:55


 


I don't think you can argue with the numbers. Sudden downward trends in those trajectory graphs just don't seem occur for any country and as yet we have not exactly been swift and draconian with our measures.


Getting food supplies equitably distributed to everyone is the government's next priority in my opinion.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


We may have the same trajectory as Italy, or possibly Germany, Switzerland, France, Poland etc. We simply don’t know. There are too many factors. Emotive language won’t change the reality for better or worse but it can raise anxiety unnecessarily. We should aim to be prepared.

Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Lionel Hutz
21 March 2020 22:39:48


 


Conversely I’ve been feeling far more depressed about everything today. Up to now I’ve been trying to focus on my own household and telling myself that worrying about the outside world is pointless. But there’s now a feeling that it’s accelerating day by day. The news that younger people are getting seriously ill and dying to a greater extent than previously thought is also concerning. It just seems to be a waiting game until someone I know is felled by this bug. 


Partly I think it is tiredness, I was up three times last night with my son waking up, and my mood is always worse when I haven’t slept. Hopefully a sunny bike ride tomorrow morning will sort my head out. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


As I said above,  I had a bad day today too. However, I am certain that you'll feel alot better after a day out tomorrow. At the end of the day, there's very little that we can do about it so the less time spend thinking about it, the better. 


AFAIR, your family is young. Our two boys are 4 and 6. It's great to see how oblivious small children are to it all.

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



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