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Brian Gaze
03 April 2020 13:04:53


 


Yes - absolutely. We should all aim for a BMI of 20 or below.


A lot of people are going to be very ill from Covid-19 even though they probably think they are "just a couple of pounds overweight". It is merciless


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I've also been told body fat is an important measurement because BMI can be misleading. For example, a muscular athlete can have a high BMI and not be overweight. 


If anyone is interested in body fat measurement and doesn't want to go through the pincer routine an impedance based scale can be quite useful. We've had one of these for a good while: (link is non-referral).


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Justin W
03 April 2020 13:05:20


 


Don't depress me Justin, I am a smug 23-24 and love my food too much to lower it.


 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Likewise. My wife and I have been doing the Michael Mosley 5:2 fasting diet. I lost loads of weight in the first few weeks but I find drastically restricting my calories two days a week during the current crisis too depressing and so I am secretly eating bread!


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Heavy Weather 2013
03 April 2020 13:06:45
New Deaths: 684
New Cases: 4450
Total Tests: 11.7K
People Tested: 7.6K

This numbers are just awful
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
03 April 2020 13:07:20
Breaking: A further 684 patients have died from Coronavirus in UK hospitals.

115 more than was announced yesterday.
Brian Gaze
03 April 2020 13:07:48


 


Don't depress me Justin, I am a smug 23-24 and love my food too much to lower it.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I'm around 23 currently. When I was 21 last year friends started asking me if I was ill because I looked gaunt. 


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03 April 2020 13:07:52


">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-struggling-debenhams-to-put-administrators-on-standby-11968038

Originally Posted by: westv 


Been in trouble for years. I expect we'll now be losing the last department store in the city here at some point.



Department stores are all dead in the water anyway and their total extinction is imminent.


Why would a potential buyer want to travel miles to a store to find a very limited range of merchandise at inflated prices when they can shop online for an unlimited range and look for the best deal?


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Gavin D
03 April 2020 13:09:55
10,590 tests completed - A new UK high

4,450 positive tests -  A new UK high

13.20% daily increase - The 3rd day in a row it has fallen
Justin W
03 April 2020 13:10:06

New Deaths: 684
New Cases: 4450
Total Tests: 11.7K
People Tested: 7.6K

This numbers are just awful

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Horrendous. My heart goes out to everybody affected by this virus.


I think we will be exceeding 1,000 mortalities per day next week and our trajectory will be worse than Spain's.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gavin D
03 April 2020 13:11:03
Looks likely we'll pass 700 daily deaths by tomorrow and probably close to 800 by Sunday if this rate of increase in deaths keeps up.
Justin W
03 April 2020 13:11:30


 


I'm around 23 currently. When I was 21 last year friends started asking me if I was ill because I looked gaunt. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Looking thin is a good guide to whether you will live a long and healthy life free of heart disease and cancer.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gandalf The White
03 April 2020 13:11:48


 


Don't depress me Justin, I am a smug 23-24 and love my food too much to lower it.


 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Mine is below 22 and getting it below 20 would mean losing over 5kg and getting down to a weight I've not had since I was a teenager. I don't think that's achievable, TBH.


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Quantum
03 April 2020 13:11:56

Latest daily: 4450


This is the JFF model



Just presenting the one without the periodicity until I can figure out what's going on there (perhaps it no longer exist, perhaps it never did and was just a highly unlikely concidence, who knows).


 


Anyway JFF model still capturing current behaviour with same parameters. I have no reason to change them. So still projecting we will reach the peak at or before April 7th.


Of course the model could be wrong and I'm somewhat skeptical it will be this early.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Maunder Minimum
03 April 2020 13:11:59

Worth reading this snippet from a frontline hospital doctor working in a London hospital:



I arrive at work at 7.30am after driving through the empty streets of London. After coffee and breakfast, I don my personal protective equipment (PPE) and go into the “red zone” in the adult intensive care unit, where the Covid patients are.


As a perfusionist, I ordinarily manage cardio-pulmonary bypass during cardiac surgery and something called ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) which is respiratory support for people whose heart and lungs are unable to provide an adequate amount of gas exchange to keep them alive. 


Normal is a meaningless word at the moment. All routine operations have been cancelled and last week I started on the frontline ECMO retrieval team for Covid-19 patients. 



From what I have read with regards to the Italian experience, once a corona virus patient ends up on ECMO, it is pretty well curtains for him or her. Some must pull through however, otherwise why would they try it?


 


 


 


 


 


New world order coming.
xioni2
03 April 2020 13:12:34

New Deaths: 684
New Cases: 4450
Total Tests: 11.7K
People Tested: 7.6K

This numbers are just awful

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I was probably wrong to think/hope that we won't match the Italian numbers. It's pretty bad and I can only hope the lockdown will turn this around during the second half of April.


 

Heavy Weather 2013
03 April 2020 13:13:24

10,590 tests completed - A new UK high

4,450 positive tests -  A new UK high

13.20% daily increase - The 3rd day in a row it has fallen

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


This doesn’t present the whole truth.



  1. Only 7.5K people were tested

  2. We are still not testing testing to maximum capacity.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Justin W
03 April 2020 13:13:46


 


Mine is below 22 and getting it below 20 would mean losing over 5kg and getting down to a weight I've not had since I was a teenager. I don't think that's achievable, TBH.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


You would be surprised, Peter. I lost 5kg in a month on the fasting diet. But it is not a particularly pleasant experience!


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
03 April 2020 13:14:22


Worth reading this snippet from a frontline hospital doctor working in a London hospital:



I arrive at work at 7.30am after driving through the empty streets of London. After coffee and breakfast, I don my personal protective equipment (PPE) and go into the “red zone” in the adult intensive care unit, where the Covid patients are.


As a perfusionist, I ordinarily manage cardio-pulmonary bypass during cardiac surgery and something called ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) which is respiratory support for people whose heart and lungs are unable to provide an adequate amount of gas exchange to keep them alive. 


Normal is a meaningless word at the moment. All routine operations have been cancelled and last week I started on the frontline ECMO retrieval team for Covid-19 patients. 



From what I have read with regards to the Italian experience, once a corona virus patient ends up on ECMO, it is pretty well curtains for him or her. Some must pull through however, otherwise why would they try it?


   

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


The WHO report had said that the Chinese had found ECMO to be the best tool, but still far from good.

westv
03 April 2020 13:14:58

NHS calculator says a good BMI for my age is just over 18.5 to just under 25.


At least it will be mild!
Gavin D
03 April 2020 13:15:30
Her Majesty will address the UK and the Commonwealth at 8pm this Sunday. The broadcast will be on all the main channels.
Justin W
03 April 2020 13:17:36


NHS calculator says a good BMI for my age is just over 18.5 to just under 25.


Originally Posted by: westv 


25 is your absolute maximum. You should aim to be in the middle of the range or just south of it.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Brian Gaze
03 April 2020 13:17:40

New Deaths: 684
New Cases: 4450
Total Tests: 11.7K
People Tested: 7.6K

This numbers are just awful


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


To me it still seems we are following Italy and not France. One of the experts (possibly Harries but I can't remember for sure) recently said otherwise so I must be missing something.


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Quantum
03 April 2020 13:18:50


 


Yes - absolutely. We should all aim for a BMI of 20 or below.


A lot of people are going to be very ill from Covid-19 even though they probably think they are "just a couple of pounds overweight". It is merciless


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Not sure about this. The other side of the U shaped curve (and it is a U shaped curve) has not been well studied. From what I gather a BMI in the early twenties up to around 25 has no significant increased morbidity risk. It goes up really fast when you are above 30 though.


People with BMIs under 20 have significant morbidity risks too. Although it seems like a low BMI (18-20 range) is okay provided you arn't malnurished, have some kind of eating disorder, or are quite old. My BMI is, I think, around 19 but I put that down to large amounts of long distance running which tends to do that to you after a while.


Upshot is, you shouldn't be worried if you have a BMI in the 23-26 range unless you have any metabolic risk factors (such as high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high levels of visceral abdominal fat e.c.t.).


And if you do have those metabolic risk factors they are a problem regardless of your BMI.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
03 April 2020 13:20:38

The talk about BMI makes me hungry and the fridge is too close to my office.

Maunder Minimum
03 April 2020 13:22:08


 


The WHO report had said that the Chinese had found ECMO to be the best tool, but still far from good.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


It probably depends on the stage reached. If ECMO is used soon enough, it can keep the patient alive, but if applied towards the end - multiple organ failure is probably already occurring.


New world order coming.
warrenb
03 April 2020 13:22:24
BMI is a terrible way of defining weight, as it does no take build into account. I have always been classed as Overweight according to BMI (29).
I am very broad but quite short and run every day.

By the way, I think Ocado have gone into meltdown, as they are cancelling scores of deliveries today and their website has been down since 6 this morning.
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