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Justin W
03 April 2020 13:45:35

The UK's death toll is now higher than China's.


Cue Maunder rant...


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speckledjim
03 April 2020 13:45:59


 


 


How do you work that percentage out? 


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Courtesy of Wikipedia 


 


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Chidog
03 April 2020 13:47:16


 


In the UK if your BMI is over 25 you are classified as fat and over 30 you are obese.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The initial study from National Statistics of UK ICU admissions showed that 74% of them were BMI > 25, vs 64% of the general population, sample size 660. Haven't crunched the numbers but I imagine that has statistical signifance

llamedos
03 April 2020 13:48:49


 


 There was a lot of "essential" traffic around here when I went running this morning. Frankly it really p1sses me off and I remain of the view that the lockdown should be tightened. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Implement rolling road blocks on all motorway routes leading to coastal resorts this weekend. F*ckwits who shouldn't be travelling would have second thoughts if they were stuck for a few hours in their cars.


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Gandalf The White
03 April 2020 13:49:32


The UK's death toll is now higher than China's.


Cue Maunder rant...


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I'm not sure that league tables of cases and deaths are very helpful unless we are certain that all the data is homogenous - and clearly it isn't.


Given that there's apparently all this uncertainty about the UK figures how could anyone conclude that those of other nations don't have similar question marks over them?


 


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Bugglesgate
03 April 2020 13:50:10


 


I have one for Monday that I booked 2 weeks ago, but have not been able to get a sniff of a slot (ooer) since then.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


 


Had a large delivery last  Saturday (booked 3 weeks before hand), largely to feed The Folks that are in isolation.  Talking to the delivery guy, he said the problem was that everyone was   ordering huge amounts of stuff so a van  that would previously be able to deliver  to say 20 houses could now barely deliver to half a dozen before returning to base. Maybe they need to limit order size ?  It's a vicious circle.    If you know the chances of getting another slot is sweet FA you will load a ton of stuff into the slot you have.  If you  are confident that you will get a service going forwards you only buy what you need for a shorter period.


I've given up with them now -  there are never any slots available round here.   I'll  probably give Morrisons a go when it all normalises. 


As a dedicated on-line grocery  store I have to say  they have  had piss poor performance . Cancelling  slots that already booked is unforgivable at the current time.  people  will be relying on them in a lot of cased when they are in isolation.  People won't forget that.   I think they will have a tough time when all this blows over when this is added to the fact they will no longer be able to distribute  Waitrose stuff !


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Brian Gaze
03 April 2020 13:52:28


 


The initial study from National Statistics of UK ICU admissions showed that 74% of them were BMI > 25, vs 64% of the general population, sample size 660. Haven't crunched the numbers but I imagine that has statistical signifance


Originally Posted by: Chidog 


I agree it probably is statistically significant. However, the correlation doesn't seem as strong as some people are suggesting. 


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chelseagirl
03 April 2020 13:54:46


 


I have one for Monday that I booked 2 weeks ago, but have not been able to get a sniff of a slot (ooer) since then.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Just finished my Morrison’s order. Had to wait 20 mins to get onto the site, but seems quite organised. Have another slot for 13 days time, so this was a big order. 


What worried me more, is that I was excited by the little walking man in the countdown of the queue. 🤷‍♀️


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warrenb
03 April 2020 13:57:14


 


 


Had a large delivery last  Saturday (booked 3 weeks before hand), largely to feed The Folks that are in isolation.  Talking to the delivery guy, he said the problem was that everyone was   ordering huge amounts of stuff so a van  that would previously be able to deliver  to say 20 houses could now barely deliver to half a dozen before returning to base. Maybe they need to limit order size ?  It's a vicious circle.    If you know the chances of getting another slot is sweet FA you will load a ton of stuff into the slot you have.  If you  are confident that you will get a service going forwards you only buy what you need for a shorter period.


I've given up with them now -  there are never any slots available round here.   I'll  probably give Morrisons a go when it all normalises. 


As a dedicated on-line grocery  store I have to say  they have  had piss poor performance . Cancelling  slots that already booked is unforgivable at the current time.  people  will be relying on them in a lot of cased when they are in isolation.  People won't forget that.   I think they will have a tough time when all this blows over when this is added to the fact they will no longer be able to distribute  Waitrose stuff !


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


I think today has been their worst day, website still down (as it has been for the last 8 hours), I think it is dawning on them that they simply do not have the scope to expand fast enough to meet demand. Asda have increased their deliveries by almost the same amount as Ocado total deliveries in the past 2 weeks. Pretty shameful for a company that prides themselves in this sort of thing.


xioni2
03 April 2020 13:59:40


 Had a large delivery last  Saturday (booked 3 weeks before hand), largely to feed The Folks that are in isolation.  Talking to the delivery guy, he said the problem was that everyone was   ordering huge amounts of stuff so a van  that would previously be able to deliver  to say 20 houses could now barely deliver to half a dozen before returning to base. Maybe they need to limit order size ?  It's a vicious circle.    If you know the chances of getting another slot is sweet FA you will load a ton of stuff into the slot you have.  If you  are confident that you will get a service going forwards you only buy what you need for a shorter period.


I've given up with them now -  there are never any slots available round here.   I'll  probably give Morrisons a go when it all normalises. 


As a dedicated on-line grocery  store I have to say  they have  had piss poor performance . Cancelling  slots that already booked is unforgivable at the current time.  people  will be relying on them in a lot of cased when they are in isolation.  People won't forget that.   I think they will have a tough time when all this blows over when this is added to the fact they will no longer be able to distribute  Waitrose stuff !


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Agree with everything you wrote. They rationed several items, but to limit the size of individual orders they could also have put a limit on the £ of the order. It's quite a poor show overall.

RobN
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03 April 2020 14:03:06


 


 


Had a large delivery last  Saturday (booked 3 weeks before hand), largely to feed The Folks that are in isolation.  Talking to the delivery guy, he said the problem was that everyone was   ordering huge amounts of stuff so a van  that would previously be able to deliver  to say 20 houses could now barely deliver to half a dozen before returning to base. Maybe they need to limit order size ?  It's a vicious circle.    If you know the chances of getting another slot is sweet FA you will load a ton of stuff into the slot you have.  If you  are confident that you will get a service going forwards you only buy what you need for a shorter period.


I've given up with them now -  there are never any slots available round here.   I'll  probably give Morrisons a go when it all normalises. 


As a dedicated on-line grocery  store I have to say  they have  had piss poor performance . Cancelling  slots that already booked is unforgivable at the current time.  people  will be relying on them in a lot of cased when they are in isolation.  People won't forget that.   I think they will have a tough time when all this blows over when this is added to the fact they will no longer be able to distribute  Waitrose stuff !


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


I know people who haven't been able to get a slot are piggy-backing their orders on top of other people's orders.


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warrenb
03 April 2020 14:03:14


 


Agree with everything you wrote. They rationed several items, but to limit the size of individual orders they could also have put a limit on the £ of the order. It's quite a poor show overall.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


I have an any time smart pass which has been completely useless during this period. Been a customer for 20 years and this is unreal. Looks like they have now basically shut the site down as the only thing you can do now is cancel an order via an online form. Nothing else. They should have seen what was happening right at the beginning, but they were too busy happily taking on new customers.


All I want is a once a week delivery of an average sized shopping basket. We not panic purchased anything, but we can't even get on the site.


Caz
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03 April 2020 14:03:22


Let's be honest, despite our moans and groans on here about testing and the stats and so on I think most of us thought and hoped we would somehow be different to Spain and Italy. We were wrong and sadly it looks like we are going to be at least as bad. It seems so hard to imagine so many people catching it when you yourself are not going near anybody and not touching any surfaces outside. Surely it must fall soon?


Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Indeed!  It seems that most European countries have followed a similar pattern, regardless of the measures they’ve taken.


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xioni2
03 April 2020 14:08:38


Indeed!  It seems that most European countries have followed a similar pattern, regardless of the measures they’ve taken.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Countries which lockeddown early seem to be faring better (e.g. Greece, Denmark, Portugal etc.). This was probably a case where (due to the significant lags involved) a gradual response was wrong and you needed a hammer like approach.


 


Justin W
03 April 2020 14:09:32


 


Countries which lockeddown early seem to be faring better (e.g. Greece, Denmark, Portugal etc.). This was probably a case where (due to the significant lags involved) a gradual response was wrong and you needed a hammer like approach.


 



 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


The success of the Greek lockdown is crystal clear


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
RobN
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03 April 2020 14:10:12


Indeed!  It seems that most European countries have followed a similar pattern, regardless of the measures they’ve taken.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Maybe the governments of all western countries are blitheringly incompetent lying toads just like ours 


Rob
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llamedos
03 April 2020 14:10:26


 


 


I have an any time smart pass which has been completely useless during this period. Been a customer for 20 years and this is unreal. Looks like they have now basically shut the site down as the only thing you can do now is cancel an order via an online form. Nothing else. They should have seen what was happening right at the beginning, but they were too busy happily taking on new customers.


All I want is a once a week delivery of an average sized shopping basket. We not panic purchased anything, but we can't even get on the site.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 

I don't any of the supermarkets were prepared for the 10 fold increase in on-line shopping demand. Right now they simply don't have the infrastructure to cope with the demand. Like you I've had deliveries for a long time but that doesn't seem to give you any kind of preferential treatment.


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Maunder Minimum
03 April 2020 14:11:47


The UK's death toll is now higher than China's.


Cue Maunder rant...


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I don't "rant", I merely point out that China's official statistics are more than suspect.


Cue Xioni rant...


New world order coming.
xioni2
03 April 2020 14:12:17


 Maybe the governments of all western countries are blitheringly incompetent lying toads just like ours 


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Some governments have been much better than others.

Gavin D
03 April 2020 14:14:14


 


Courtesy of Wikipedia 


 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


Thanks. I see how they're doing it now.

xioni2
03 April 2020 14:14:18


 I don't "rant", I merely point out that China's official statistics are more than suspect.


Cue Xioni rant...


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Beijing hasn't sent me this week's payment yet, so I'll let this pass. 


 

warrenb
03 April 2020 14:14:39


I don't any of the supermarkets were prepared for the 10 fold increase in on-line shopping demand. Right now they simply don't have the infrastructure to cope with the demand. Like you I've had deliveries for a long time but that doesn't seem to give you any kind of preferential treatment.


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


But at least the other supermarkets have ramped up, Ocado have not budged, it now seems they have just given up today, twitter awash with cancelled orders on the day today, no site access to anyone. The whole thing is a mess.


llamedos
03 April 2020 14:16:03


 


Maybe the governments of all western countries are blitheringly incompetent lying toads just like ours 


Originally Posted by: RobN 

Like the one we have here who managed to facilitate the conversion of the excel site in London to a temporary hospital which will eventually have a 4000 bed capacity and all in around 10 days ? Yeah incompetent bunch !


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Caz
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03 April 2020 14:17:06


 


Same in East Kent - a friend says that Canterbury was busy yesterday and the Thanet Way was busy with people heading to the coast. People do not seem to be able observe 'guidance' for anything more than a couple of days. Tougher measures are needed, IMO, with the army being called in to man checkpoints. But I realise that is highly controversial


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

I’ve noticed traffic noise here has increased since midweek, although it’s still quieter than normal.  The police are stopping people who are driving around in our parish.  


Our daughter was stopped by police on the high street at 7am yesterday.  They questioned where she was going but they were fine when she explained she was driving to our house to bring back her work (she’s making NHS visors, same as me).  I think they need to be stopping people, otherwise we’ll be back up to pre restriction levels. 


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westv
03 April 2020 14:17:19


 


Countries which lockeddown early seem to be faring better (e.g. Greece, Denmark, Portugal etc.). This was probably a case where (due to the significant lags involved) a gradual response was wrong and you needed a hammer like approach.


 



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


How can you compare countries with vastly different populations purely on death rate? I asked earlier if there was anything done that compared countries based on population.


At least it will be mild!

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