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Bugglesgate
12 April 2020 13:07:22

Does anyone know what time the Govt. spiel is this afternoon - and who is doing it ?


 


 

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Gavin D
12 April 2020 13:07:27
Northern Ireland has reported 89 new cases and 11 new deaths
Gavin D
12 April 2020 13:10:30
NHS England have announced 657 new deaths
The Beast from the East
12 April 2020 13:11:19


 


Agreed Caz, in fact HMG were beginning to take action before then:


January 24th


”Summary of action taken


We have introduced advanced monitoring at airports with direct flights from China.


A team of public health experts has been established in Heathrow to support anyone travelling in from China who feels unwell. These hubs will bring in rotational teams of 7 clinicians, working in shifts, who will be on hand to support patients on arrival. This is in addition to medical staff who are already permanently in place at all UK airports and the advice issued to all UK airports for people travelling to and from China.


The government has issued clinical guidance for the detection and diagnosis of Wuhan novel coronavirus, and infection prevention and control.


The Chief Medical Officer, Medical Director at PHE and Medical Director at NHSE/I have issued advice via a CAS (Central Alerting System) alert to frontline staff to increase awareness of the situation and any actions to take.


Most people who develop symptoms will get them after leaving the airport and so the priority is providing UK residents and travellers with the latest information to make sure they know what to do if they experience symptoms, and the NHS and PHE have an established plan to respond to someone who becomes unwell.”


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Another lie. People were getting off planes from Singapore, Italy without any checks. The flights should have been stopped anyway


Even Maunder doesn't swallow the guff from Central Office anymore! But keep up the good work. The OBE is in the post

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Gavin D
12 April 2020 13:11:36
710 new deaths in the UK up to 5pm yesterday
Ulric
12 April 2020 13:11:37

Boris has left hospital and gone to Chequers

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Isn't he supposed to pop round to Mary Magdalene's place for a quick chat first?


 

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Caz
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12 April 2020 13:12:12


 


 


I must have missed the bit where, as soon as the early stages of panic-buying became evident, they put in place strict controls on buying quantities of certain product, and introduced limits on the number of shoppers allowed in at a time.


They're also taking advantage of the business rates holiday - supermarkets will collectively benefit to the tune of £3bn (from the taxpayer). Tesco alone won't be paying £700m. Wonder if it was just a quirk of timing that, just a couple of weeks after the government's announcement, they declared that dividends to shareholders would rise by 60% to £637m....?


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I think the early panic buying has started to bite them on the bum though. Yes their tills were red hot in March but those people who stock piled won’t need to buy again for a while.  Yesterday in Morrisons, there were a lot of greatly reduced items at lunch time.  I bought a turkey crown half price!  

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The Beast from the East
12 April 2020 13:12:59

NHS England have announced 657 new deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Weekend lag, or a genuine drop?


And of course care homes and community deaths which HMG doesn't want us to know about


 


 

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Caz
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12 April 2020 13:16:02


 


Another lie. People were getting off planes from Singapore, Italy without any checks. The flights should have been stopped anyway


Even Maunder doesn't swallow the guff from Central Office anymore! But keep up the good work. The OBE is in the post


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Not a lie!  Read the post!  They were checking for people coming from China!  Singapore and Italy are not in China!

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Gavin D
12 April 2020 13:17:09

710 new deaths in the UK with our peak currently standing at 980


doctormog
12 April 2020 13:22:38


Not a lie!  Read the post!  They were checking for people coming from China!  Singapore and Italy are not in China!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Caz, don’t ruin his inane nonsense with petty little things like facts. I am neither criticising nor commending the government’s statement on the 24th as I did not and do not have access to the information they did then. I am just commenting that they had begun to take measures, albeit very limited as early as January. 

Aberdeen
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Rob K
12 April 2020 13:23:19


 


How true is that 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Quite, and something that I am trying to bear in mind with my kids at these times. We have been doing our best to keep ours happy with trips to the local woods (away from others), building dens yesterday and today we did an Easter egg hunt with paper eggs hidden at the end of neighbours’ driveways with their permission secured on the local FB group. My wife’s idea: she set our daughter a quiz with the answers being numbers, which led to the house numbers where the eggs were hidden. 

We’ve had a few tearful episodes with my daughter missing her friends but generally she is bearing up well.


 

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Gavin D
12 April 2020 13:25:26
The 657 patients who died in England were aged between 26 and 100 years old.
John p
12 April 2020 13:25:47


 


Weekend lag, or a genuine drop?


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I think we all know the answer to that.


Tuesday’s figure could be eye watering. 

Camberley, Surrey
Brian Gaze
12 April 2020 13:26:23

710 new deaths in the UK up to 5pm yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Assuming the usual caveats hold true I would expect daily deaths to peak at over 1000 within the next 10 days. 

Brian Gaze
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SJV
12 April 2020 13:31:40


 


Isn't he supposed to pop round to Mary Magdalene's place for a quick chat first?


 


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


He would but there's a big rock in front of the entrance.

fairweather
12 April 2020 13:32:25


Went on another 11K perambulation this morning.


As I started at 7 AM hardly anyone around.  


As I retuned near the village later though I encountered various individuals and parties.  Most  were fine, however I got annoyed by one (older) woman.  It was a narrow path, so I reversed up and found a small alcove in the hedge to let her pass at 2M.  Firstly her out-of-control dogs  bounded up to me.  Now I don't mind dogs, but some people are terrified by them -  extremely poor form IMHO.  Then she whipped out her mobile and took a call  while standing still, while I was still  in the hedge with trigs poking into me waiting for her to come pass !


She eventually "sailed by" in the middle of the path  reducing my carefully calculated 2M to a 1M and a bit  with no thanks you or even an acknowledgement of my existence - I  was p*ssed off after the 'phone incident so purposely waited silently !


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


You have to account for people being thick. Just got back from planting some carrots in our alotment which as always was pretty much deserted. There was just man who decided to put his chair 1 metre from the main path everybody has to walk along and sat there sunbathing. It would have taken nothing and made no difference if he'd put it two metres from the path. Luckily I had put my gloves on to do the padlock on the gate because he seemed just the type that could have contaminated it.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gavin D
12 April 2020 13:33:57

The 657 patients who died in England were aged between 26 and 100 years old.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


42 patients aged between 30 and 98 years old had no known underlying health conditions

fairweather
12 April 2020 13:34:30


 


 



An icon from my childhood, and great regular on the excellent I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.


Really sad news.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Oh no, me too. Always a big fan of the programme.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
llamedos
12 April 2020 13:35:12


 


Weekend lag, or a genuine drop?


And of course care homes and community deaths which HMG doesn't want us to know about


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Got on the juice a bit early did we? As far as I'm aware they're not able to gather this information in a consistent form. Anyway I'm not sure why you've suddenly become so concerned, after all it's a just another few hundred deaths isn't? Let's get the pubs open eh?  

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fairweather
12 April 2020 13:35:59

Boris has left hospital and gone to Chequers

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


That's good news and clearly a miracle as he was nearly dead a week ago according to  the Mail on Sunday!

S.Essex, 42m ASL
doctormog
12 April 2020 13:38:01


 


That's good news and clearly a miracle as he was nearly dead a week ago according to  the Mail on Sunday!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Perhaps a good enough example of why to only go by official reports?

Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
fairweather
12 April 2020 13:40:12


 


Very sad news. I’m currently re-reading Michael Palin’s diaries from the 1970s and the Goodies feature quite a bit. 


(incidentally London in the 70s sounds pretty grim, bombings, sieges etc scattered frequently through the pages!)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I was there a lot of the time in my swinging 20's. It was great, nothing like as grim as now!

S.Essex, 42m ASL
The Beast from the East
12 April 2020 13:40:14


 They were checking for people coming from China!  Singapore and Italy are not in China!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


By this time the infection had spread to other countries which they weren't checking. The original "superspreader" (Hickster's mate) got it in Singapore

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llamedos
12 April 2020 13:42:10


 


Assuming the usual caveats hold true I would expect daily deaths to peak at over 1000 within the next 10 days. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I suspect that the period Tuesday to Thursday will be telling when the "missing data" from this extended weekend will be incorporated into the "daily" figures?  

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