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Heavy Weather 2013
18 April 2020 15:28:39

Government Minister:

The housing secretary says 84 tons of PPE for frontline health workers is expected to arrive in the UK tomorrow. This will include 400,000 protective gowns.

"We've got to do more to get the PPE that we need to the frontline," he said.

"There's massive global demand for the equipment. But we are trying to do everything that we can to get the equipment we need."

PHE Tweeted this 7hrs who on Twitter:

Following an agreement between the UK 🇬🇧 and Turkey 🇹🇷 250,000 items of personal protective equipment including N-95 face masks, surgical masks and protective suits for the NHS arrived @RAFBrizeNorton for distribution to medical centres across the country.

Mark
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Caz
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18 April 2020 15:28:59

Hospital admissions down again, this time by 5%. Excellent news.

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

  That’s the figure that currently gives the better picture. 

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xioni2
18 April 2020 15:30:20


However the Diamond Princes 'results' were not dissimilar and they were largely geriatric

Originally Posted by: four 


They were completely different!



  • 20% infected

  • of them only 18% asymptomatic (mostly crew)

  • mortality rate of 1.1%

Phil G
18 April 2020 15:31:30


It’s possible the London figures are not as high due to the younger population, who are less likely to need hospital treatment.  If they haven’t been admitted to hospital, or aren’t a frontline worker, they won’t have been tested.  Therefore they won’t be counted. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


It could be that. I think they talked about a peak somewhere around the 12th April, so it should be any time now we should start to see a fall, hopefully.

Gandalf The White
18 April 2020 15:36:37


 


Whether or nay, they sure are loving it. Power hungry pot bellies. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Or decent citizens trying to do a difficult job and confronted with a minority of selfish and/or ignorant cretins.

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Gavin D
18 April 2020 15:38:03
17,759 in hospital with Covid-19 down by 911 since yesterday
Heavy Weather 2013
18 April 2020 15:39:50


 


Or decent citizens trying to do a difficult job and confronted with a minority of selfish and/or ignorant cretins.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


How did you deduce those lads were ignorant cretins from that short video. See it works both ways. You’ve assumed that the police are not in the wrong and they are.


 


 


 

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RobN
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18 April 2020 15:41:10

US carrier also finds 60% infected but most with no symptoms.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt-idUSKCN21Y2GB
It's everywhere.
Being on public transport in London a month ago would be an easier way to catch it than a ship

Originally Posted by: four 


Not 60% infected.


4,800-member crew


94% of them were tested


60% of the 600 who tested positive (i.e. 360) were not symptomatic at the time they were tested - but may have gone on to have symptoms later.


So only (360/4800)*100  i.e. 7.5% of the total crew were asymptomatic carriers.


In this case the 60% of carriers who were asymptomatic at the time they were tested was not wildly higher than the 25%-50% range quoted by Fauci on 5th April.

Rob
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Gavin D
18 April 2020 15:42:14
Pillar 1 - 4,399 positive
Pillar 2 - 1,127 positive

Caz
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18 April 2020 15:42:27


It could be that. I think they talked about a peak somewhere around the 12th April, so it should be any time now we should start to see a fall, hopefully.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 

  I think the figure to watch is hospital admissions.  We know there’s an inconsistent lag in reported deaths and to some extent a lag in test results, so daily figures aren’t true. Added to which, testing is now being carried out more widely than just hospital admissions, so logically, more of the cases reported will be less severe. 

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Gandalf The White
18 April 2020 15:43:40


 


Yes what was available in reporting certain types of figures certainly aren't up to scratch when reporting stats for pandemics! I can see a review of these as well, though to collect what the leaders need to make important decisions based on these numbers now should not be rocket science.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


There's an absolutely key distinction between the apparent urge to have information delivered instantly and the need for accurate analysis for decision-making. The latter does not need a daily press conference.

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Gavin D
18 April 2020 15:45:24

Daily slides


Transport remains steady



Cases bouncing around slightly on some days. Overall trend is levelling off



Hospital admissions down 5% nationally


Gavin D
18 April 2020 15:47:29
NHS now has 10,606 ventilators
RobN
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18 April 2020 15:48:52

Don't know if this has already been posted.


Obama in a 2014 speech predicting that there "may and likely will" be a future deadly airborne pandemic and describing what needed to be done to prepare, stressing that it should be a non-partisan issue.


https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/10/barack-obama-2014-pandemic-comments-sot-ctn-vpx.cnn


 

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xioni2
18 April 2020 15:55:34


Don't know if this has already been posted.


Obama in a 2014 speech predicting that there "may and likely will" be a future deadly airborne pandemic and describing what needed to be done to prepare, stressing that it should be a non-partisan issue.


https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/10/barack-obama-2014-pandemic-comments-sot-ctn-vpx.cnn


Originally Posted by: RobN 


He, Gates and Soros must be behind CV19, the truth is out there.


 

Gavin D
18 April 2020 15:55:37

Turkey sending 84T of equipment tomorrow to the UK including 400,000 gowns

Gandalf The White
18 April 2020 16:02:33


 


He, Gates and Soros must be behind CV19, the truth is out there.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


What? I have it on good authority it's down to the Martians working with North Korea.


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Phil G
18 April 2020 16:03:51


Turkey sending 84T of equipment tomorrow to the UK including 400,000 gowns


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Let's hope this equipment is safe as well. Guy just being interviewed just said nationally it was two days worth apparently! I am sure and very quickly mass workshops could be set up in many areas to produce this equipment. If they can build hospitals in 10 days, they could make these garments as well.

Caz
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18 April 2020 16:12:50


Let's hope this equipment is safe as well. Guy just being interviewed just said nationally it was two days worth apparently! I am sure and very quickly mass workshops could be set up in many areas to produce this equipment. If they can build hospitals in 10 days, they could make these garments as well.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 

They could and should be produced in this country and we need millions of them.  Hopefully there are companies working towards it as I type! 

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John p
18 April 2020 16:13:14


 


Yep, this is the most important and clean metric, we are clearly past the peak now. We really need to put a lot of resources now on a mass test and trace programme for later in May.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Indeed - I’d say this is the only metric we can trust. 

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John p
18 April 2020 16:15:12

17,759 in hospital with Covid-19 down by 911 since yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Do they give figures for intensive care admissions?

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doctormog
18 April 2020 16:15:49
I am sure there are reasons for the current approach but surely there has to be some merit in moving to a reusable/washable gown approach (for sustainability as much a small anything else)?
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Phil G
18 April 2020 16:17:35


They could and should be produced in this country and we need millions of them.  Hopefully there are companies working towards it as I type! 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Exactly. One bucket load isn't going to sort this out, we need a steady stream, and a lot of it.

John p
18 April 2020 16:22:50

Captain Tom Moore is the guest of honour at the opening of Harrogate Nightingale hospital. Surely this is a bit of a risk.

I think he a national treasure after what he has done - however the I feel the government are using him as a shield the last few days to cover up their failings.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


He’s doing it by video link fortunately. 

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Gavin D
18 April 2020 16:24:03

Italy have reported 3,491 new cases and 482 new deaths.

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