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Justin W
18 April 2020 20:06:30


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
warrenb
18 April 2020 20:08:00
Someone wants his job. It is a power play by someone probably in the cabinet. Undermine the target. Look out for someone to start issuing statements backing Boris before stepping forward to fill the power vacuum we currently have.
xioni2
18 April 2020 20:12:04


This is someone in the government playing a power play pure and simple. Senior adviser, senior politician, this has a political power play written all over it


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


What about the emergency planners and scientists working for the govt? Are they lying too or is the govt supporting newspaper lying? 

fairweather
18 April 2020 20:14:25

Someone wants his job. It is a power play by someone probably in the cabinet. Undermine the target. Look out for someone to start issuing statements backing Boris before stepping forward to fill the power vacuum we currently have.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Do you honestly think they queuing up to be PM right now? Who did you have in mind. Political heavyweights like Raab, Gove or Hancock? The  frightened rabbits are more likely running for cover at the moment!


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Phil G
18 April 2020 20:33:56

Someone wants his job. It is a power play by someone probably in the cabinet. Undermine the target. Look out for someone to start issuing statements backing Boris before stepping forward to fill the power vacuum we currently have.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Fake news?

warrenb
18 April 2020 20:45:23


 


Fake news?


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I wouldnt say fake news. There is always a little truth in these stories to add legitimacy. But when a story is quoting senior sources and senior politicians and larges tracts attributed to "a source" then I struggle not to see another motive behind such stories


xioni2
18 April 2020 20:52:06


I wouldnt say fake news. There is always a little truth in these stories to add legitimacy. But when a story is quoting senior sources and senior politicians and larges tracts attributed to "a source" then I struggle not to see another motive behind such stories


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


So, a serious and govt supporting newspaper reports a several week investigation having spoken to emergency planners and scientists working for the govt and you just dismiss it as a power play with a little truth mixed in? 


Their investigation identified austerity as a factor behind the degradation of our preparedness and this newspaper had supported austerity throughout and yet you still dismiss this. Can't you see you are in denial? 

John p
18 April 2020 20:54:11
If that (Conservative supporting) Sunday Times article is correct, Johnson has to resign, surely?
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Ulric
18 April 2020 21:01:59
The mood of the nation is subtly changing. The press can smell it in the wind.

It switched suddenly a couple of weeks ago with a couple of pieces in various places which criticised the government. I noticed it and I'm sure others did.


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warrenb
18 April 2020 21:12:10


 


So, a serious and govt supporting newspaper reports a several week investigation having spoken to emergency planners and scientists working for the govt and you just dismiss it as a power play with a little truth mixed in? 


Their investigation identified austerity as a factor behind the degradation of our preparedness and this newspaper had supported austerity throughout and yet you still dismiss this. Can't you see you are in denial? 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I am not dismissing the story at all. But as doctormog has pointed out, there is not a great deal new in this story. Stories like this always have a motive behind them and here we are undermining the government during probably the greatest crisis since the last world war.


I am not saying the government has done a a perfect performance during this, but do we need a change of leadership or huge political upheaval at this time


 


CreweCold
18 April 2020 21:19:42

Yep, agree with Warren. Seems to be a motive behind this story. Absolutely reeks of it.



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Brian Gaze
18 April 2020 21:24:39

If that (Conservative supporting) Sunday Times article is correct, Johnson has to resign, surely?

Originally Posted by: John p 


Not a chance these days. He'll be 10% more popular as a result. 


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Justin W
18 April 2020 21:26:40

Unsurprising responses here to the Sunday Times story. Unquestioning loyalty to he who can do no wrong. Beast is right. Johnson’s insouciance, negligence and turbulent private life have cost thousands of lives but people will continue to see him a bloke who they would like to share a beer with.


I’d say ‘wake up’ but when one is in a coma, WW3 would not make you conscious.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Phil G
18 April 2020 21:26:53

The mood of the nation is subtly changing. The press can smell it in the wind.

It switched suddenly a couple of weeks ago with a couple of pieces in various places which criticised the government. I noticed it and I'm sure others did.

Originally Posted by: Ulric 


Are you salivating Ulric! I can smell it!

fairweather
18 April 2020 21:31:45


Yep, agree with Warren. Seems to be a motive behind this story. Absolutely reeks of it.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


Sorry, I thought I just heard Trump say something.


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Saint Snow
18 April 2020 21:35:32


Unsurprising responses here to the Sunday Times story. Unquestioning loyalty to he who can do no wrong. 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Aye, you don't need to be Nostradamus.



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Saint Snow
18 April 2020 21:38:18


do we need a change of leadership or huge political upheaval at this time


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


 


Depends if Bozo, Rasputin & Sunak want to lumber taxpayers and public services with the bill for this. 



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westv
18 April 2020 21:47:22

So is there anything in this story we didn't know already?


At least it will be mild!
NickR
18 April 2020 21:48:37


Unsurprising responses here to the Sunday Times story. Unquestioning loyalty to he who can do no wrong. Beast is right. Johnson’s insouciance, negligence and turbulent private life have cost thousands of lives but people will continue to see him a bloke who they would like to share a beer with.


I’d say ‘wake up’ but when one is in a coma, WW3 would not make you conscious.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Absolutely spot on. The usual supine, 'nothing to see here' responses.


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NickR
18 April 2020 21:49:58


So is there anything in this story we didn't know already?


Originally Posted by: westv 


If you knew all this and you didn't care/it didn't make you think Johnson should resign, then you're a cretin. You as in one. Of course.


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westv
18 April 2020 21:53:06


 


If you knew all this and you didn't care/it didn't make you think Johnson should resign, then you're a cretin. You as in one. Of course.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


What? Does that mean it was known or not?


At least it will be mild!
NickR
18 April 2020 22:08:16


 


What? Does that mean it was known or not?


Originally Posted by: westv 


Much of this is new. But that wasn't the point i was making.


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Gandalf The White
18 April 2020 22:19:19


 


Absolutely spot on. The usual supine, 'nothing to see here' responses.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Leopards don't change their spots.


Johnson would have needed to undergo a nigh on impossible personality change to step up to provide the leadership required to confront this crisis. Of course, we don't have any hard evidence that he has been behaving as described but it does fit the general image.


He is the man who took the country out of the EU and Remainers won't forget that, nor the fact that he has done his best to cast out the moderate voices and turned the Tories into the New Brexit Party.


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18 April 2020 22:19:31
That story from The Times is damning. If people cannot see that I don’t know what to think anymore.

This is a Tory supporting newspaper and even they are waking up to the disaster that has unfolded.

The PM couldn’t even turn up to meetings, yet even on here we could see what was coming.

15,000, say it again FIFTEEN THOUSAND British citizens are dead.

The government has blood on its hands.


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