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Gavin D
24 April 2020 16:04:00
17,049 in hospital with Coivd-19 down from 17,615 yesterday

It's also down 10% on the same day last week
Gavin D
24 April 2020 16:09:41
Trials starting on using drones to deliver medical supplies on the IOW next week

Gavin D
24 April 2020 16:11:58

Transport data


Phil G
24 April 2020 16:12:51

Haha, taken the gridlines off the transport graph, sorry made them very faint.

Gandalf The White
24 April 2020 16:13:05


Oh how badly this speech has aged, just listen to it carefully



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Oh dear. I don't know when he made that seep he but I'm guessing it was back in January?


 


But it does underline the point made some weeks ago that Boris was against putting restrictions in place because it's just not in his personal belief system. 


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Gavin D
24 April 2020 16:13:47

Cases 


A daily record for Pillar 2. The curve is flattening.


Gandalf The White
24 April 2020 16:14:58

Haha, taken the gridlines off the transport graph.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Nope, they're still there.


So much for the Machiavellian wing in here who assumed it was omitted because it showed a failure of the 'lockdown'.  But I suppose someone will suggest the figures have been fixed.....


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Gavin D
24 April 2020 16:15:14

London now into the 3000s for patients in hospitals


four
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24 April 2020 16:16:04


 


Oh dear. I don't know when he made that seep he but I'm guessing it was back in January?


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


When you were travelling round the far east and poo-poing any warnings?


speckledjim
24 April 2020 16:16:51


London now into the 3000s for patients in hospitals



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Getting better 👍👍👍


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Phil G
24 April 2020 16:19:01


 


Nope, they're still there.


So much for the Machiavellian wing in here who assumed it was omitted because it showed a failure of the 'lockdown'.  But I suppose someone will suggest the figures have been fixed.....


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I did amend my post. Yes they are there, but fainter. And the sun was shining on my telly!

four
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24 April 2020 16:20:11
The purpose of the Lockdown was to reduce the load on the NHS, it clearly isn't overloaded but now we have typical mission creep and the lockdown is for what exactly. Until there's a proven vaccine, maybe 2025 or never?
That's all very well except the economy is disintegrating around us.

xioni2
24 April 2020 16:27:25


Oh dear. I don't know when he made that seep he but I'm guessing it was back in January?


But it does underline the point made some weeks ago that Boris was against putting restrictions in place because it's just not in his personal belief system. 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


It was made on the 3rd of February. There have been leaks and briefings that both scientists and ministers and eventually even Cummings were trying to convince him to lock down in mid-March, but it took them a long time to succeed (23rd).


He genuinely saw Britain as standing up alone as and taking advantage of the panic of other countries.


 

Gooner
24 April 2020 16:31:54

The purpose of the Lockdown was to reduce the load on the NHS, it clearly isn't overloaded but now we have typical mission creep and the lockdown is for what exactly. Until there's a proven vaccine, maybe 2025 or never?
That's all very well except the economy is disintegrating around us.

Originally Posted by: four 


Is it?


We are in the manufacturing industry are absolutely flat out , our customers have committed order books .


Many restaurants have stayed open and are delivering food


The furlough has actually made people better off because of travel costs are zero , so they will have money to spend 


I have mates who are still busy .


The UK will recover without a doubt  - I'm not sure its as bad as people are saying 


Yes the government will have to recover the large sums of money they have used and no doubt the tax payers will pay , but that's for another day 


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John p
24 April 2020 16:33:00


Cases 


A daily record for Pillar 2. The curve is flattening.



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I don’t get the significance of what pillar it is. Surely a case is a case, whatever type it is.


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Chidog
24 April 2020 16:38:37


 


I don’t get the significance of what pillar it is. Surely a case is a case, whatever type it is.


Originally Posted by: John p 


The pillar 2 cases are more likely to be mild or asymptomatic as they are tests by type of worker rather than symptoms

Brian Gaze
24 April 2020 16:40:09

Stats clearly going the right way.  Will they keep going in the same direction during the next few weeks? Time will tell but the organic easing of the lockdown and next week's cooler weather could both come into play.


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Saint Snow
24 April 2020 16:44:25


 


But not when you're giving a press conference to tens/hundreds of millions across America and the wider world. Sure, we all make mistakes when under pressure and we've all said something stupid that we've then discounted or clarified.


However, he's the president of the United States. You can't just trot out a random thought as stupid as that and not clarify it further. The White House have understandably criticised the media for jumping on it and spinning it (not that there's anything to spin) but behind the scenes they must be extremely embarrassed at Trump's latest misjudgement. 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


 


I bet his uberbitch KellyAnn Conway has been haranguing the media, asking them about Covids 1-18.


 



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xioni2
24 April 2020 16:47:01

89% of Brits say they are copying  well during the shutdown, 87% distrust Trump. 

Quantum
24 April 2020 16:49:45

Just to let everyone know I am redesigning the JFF model. Here is the outline:


Essentially it is clear the JFF model is no longer fit for purpose because the underlying assumption regarding infectivity changing over time is no longer true. Therefore I am adding an additional complexity to the model. I will be using 'total motor viechle' traffic as a proxy for infectivity. In other words assuming that there is a linear relationship between this and infectivity. I will be using the govt slides, if anyone knows where I can get the raw numbers from I will appreciate it.


Extrapolating into the future will use a most recent linear trend of the infectivity, so from time to time predictions may change drastically especially if that R0=1 line is crossed which it inevitably will be if infectivity is going up. This version of the JFF model is alot more robust essentially no longer assuming constant changes in behaviour but linear changes in behaviour being allowed. So it will be capable of predicting a 2nd wave due to changing behaviour.


I'll have this up by tommorow.


 


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Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

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Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Phil G
24 April 2020 16:50:51


89% of Brits say they are copying  well during the shutdown, 87% distrust Trump. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


That means over 10% aren't coping which means 600,000 which isn't very good.


 

speckledjim
24 April 2020 16:54:22


 


Is it?


We are in the manufacturing industry are absolutely flat out , our customers have committed order books .


Many restaurants have stayed open and are delivering food


The furlough has actually made people better off because of travel costs are zero , so they will have money to spend 


I have mates who are still busy .


The UK will recover without a doubt  - I'm not sure its as bad as people are saying 


Yes the government will have to recover the large sums of money they have used and no doubt the tax payers will pay , but that's for another day 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The OBR are predicting GDP to drop by 35% this Spring and they are expecting 2m to lose their jobs by June. 


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xioni2
24 April 2020 16:56:06


That means over 10% aren't coping which means 600,000 which isn't very good.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


You mean 6.7 million. 

Joe Bloggs
24 April 2020 17:01:29


 


Is it?


We are in the manufacturing industry are absolutely flat out , our customers have committed order books .


Many restaurants have stayed open and are delivering food


The furlough has actually made people better off because of travel costs are zero , so they will have money to spend 


I have mates who are still busy .


The UK will recover without a doubt  - I'm not sure its as bad as people are saying 


Yes the government will have to recover the large sums of money they have used and no doubt the tax payers will pay , but that's for another day 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


If the furlough scheme stops AND the lockdown continues then vast, vast numbers of people will become unemployed. We are at a precipice. 


The state support will need to continue for as long as the lockdown lasts. 



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RobN
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24 April 2020 17:05:00


Oh how badly this speech has aged, just listen to it carefully



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


This is one paragraph from a long speech about free trade. I'm not convinced the coronavirus reference was much more than an attempt to appear topical as the main point was in relation to trade barriers.  It does not seem to be any kind of statement about public health policy.


The full transcript is here.


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