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Gooner
25 April 2020 16:19:45


Italy



  • 2,357 new cases

  • 415 new deaths 


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


This is a slow process isn't it ? , what are we 2 or 3 weeks behind Italy?


I can see the government pushing the restrictions for a further 3 weeks on May 7th if the above is anything to go on 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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JHutch
25 April 2020 16:21:30

Might be one of these statistical anomalies where a load of results are backed up and get released in one go, but the borough i live in, Wandsworth, has had 38 official new cases in the last 5 days. That was pretty much the average rate per day a few weeks ago.

Gavin D
25 April 2020 16:22:28
Arsenal's first team players will return to the clubs London Colney training ground next week strict measures will be in place with the closure of buildings

They have 10 pitches that can be used for training and have insisted social distancing will be maintained at all times.
Caz
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25 April 2020 16:24:54


 


Ok, I've done it every day so far but I guess most have lost interest if truth be known 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

I think you’ve hit the nail there!  A lot of people are starting to lose interest in anything to do with this pandemic and that’s why they’re ignoring advice!  


I find the over seventies generally, but not exclusively the worst.  I wonder if that’s because a lot don’t have the technology that younger ones have. No social media to get local news, no stopping in the co-op for a catch up on local gossip, no sharing experiences, etc. 


I’m finding it very hard to explain things to my step mum in law, who’s had heart surgery.  She finally agreed not to go shopping, after saying that rule was only for the infirm who can’t get to shops and she’s perfectly capable.  We explained the risks and thought she understood but she doesn’t seem to get why she can’t take her dog to the vet.  Then when hubby took her some shopping, hung it on the door and told her to take it out of the packaging and wash her hands, she said ‘oh I’ll be using it soon, so it’ll be OK’. 


It’s so difficult for some of them to understand and so exasperating trying to explain.  


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Saint Snow
25 April 2020 16:29:40


 


Imagine defending every bats**t crazy thing Donald Trump spews out.


Originally Posted by: John p 


 





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25 April 2020 16:30:54

Northern Sky
25 April 2020 16:37:33


 


This is a slow process isn't it ? , what are we 2 or 3 weeks behind Italy?


I can see the government pushing the restrictions for a further 3 weeks on May 7th if the above is anything to go on 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Italy are at a 1.2% case increase, we are at 3.4%. Italy was at 3.4% three weeks ago. 


I can't see the lockdown holding another 4 - 5 weeks. I'm also not sure it should because the benefits by then will be outweighed by the negative impacts. I think we need a new approach because we are effectively incarcerating millions of the population that are at miniscule risk. Meanwhile a big proportion of those that really are at risk are still busy wandering round supermarkets, seemingly either unaware or not caring of the consequences for themselves or the knock on effects for the NHS.


 

John p
25 April 2020 16:38:59

Arsenal's first team players will return to the clubs London Colney training ground next week strict measures will be in place with the closure of buildings

They have 10 pitches that can be used for training and have insisted social distancing will be maintained at all times.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Well that shouldn’t be allowed. On what grounds do they think this conforms with the rules of staying at home?


Camberley, Surrey
Gooner
25 April 2020 16:39:34


I think you’ve hit the nail there!  A lot of people are starting to lose interest in anything to do with this pandemic and that’s why they’re ignoring advice!  


I find the over seventies generally, but not exclusively the worst.  I wonder if that’s because a lot don’t have the technology that younger ones have. No social media to get local news, no stopping in the co-op for a catch up on local gossip, no sharing experiences, etc. 


I’m finding it very hard to explain things to my step mum in law, who’s had heart surgery.  She finally agreed not to go shopping, after saying that rule was only for the infirm who can’t get to shops and she’s perfectly capable.  We explained the risks and thought she understood but she doesn’t seem to get why she can’t take her dog to the vet.  Then when hubby took her some shopping, hung it on the door and told her to take it out of the packaging and wash her hands, she said ‘oh I’ll be using it soon, so it’ll be OK’. 


It’s so difficult for some of them to understand and so exasperating trying to explain.  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Agreed and its clear people have got bored with it and when you break the %'s down , very few people have known someone who has been admitted to hospital 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
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Gooner
25 April 2020 16:40:36


 


Well that shouldn’t be allowed. On what grounds do they think this conforms with the rules of staying at home?


Originally Posted by: John p 


Well with a squad of 20 + its 2 per pitch 


They will just have to practise a lot of short corners 


With distancing in mind lol


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
25 April 2020 17:09:11


 


Italy are at a 1.2% case increase, we are at 3.4%. Italy was at 3.4% three weeks ago. 


I can't see the lockdown holding another 4 - 5 weeks. I'm also not sure it should because the benefits by then will be outweighed by the negative impacts. I think we need a new approach because we are effectively incarcerating millions of the population that are at miniscule risk. Meanwhile a big proportion of those that really are at risk are still busy wandering round supermarkets, seemingly either unaware or not caring of the consequences for themselves or the knock on effects for the NHS.


 


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Yes but everyone is a carrier which is the concern here, forget millions being at a small risk of serious illness 


I wonder how many of the 5 points the government are talking about have ticks against them ?


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Marcus
Banbury
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JHutch
25 April 2020 17:09:41

Interview with Neil Ferguson here, not watched it all yet (35 minutes) but is quite interesting.


https://unherd.com/thepost/imperials-prof-neil-ferguson-responds-to-the-swedish-critique/

John p
25 April 2020 17:15:26


 


Well with a squad of 20 + its 2 per pitch 


They will just have to practise a lot of short corners 


With distancing in mind lol


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I thought you’d defend them ‘Gooner’ 


Camberley, Surrey
SJV
25 April 2020 17:16:48


 


Imagine defending every bats**t crazy thing Donald Trump spews out.


Originally Posted by: John p 


speckledjim
25 April 2020 17:23:46


 


Well that shouldn’t be allowed. On what grounds do they think this conforms with the rules of staying at home?


Originally Posted by: John p 


If you can't work from home then it is permissible to travel to your workplace. Football is a team sport so to train they will need to be together.


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springsunshine
25 April 2020 17:28:05


 


Italy are at a 1.2% case increase, we are at 3.4%. Italy was at 3.4% three weeks ago. 


I can't see the lockdown holding another 4 - 5 weeks. I'm also not sure it should because the benefits by then will be outweighed by the negative impacts. I think we need a new approach because we are effectively incarcerating millions of the population that are at miniscule risk. Meanwhile a big proportion of those that really are at risk are still busy wandering round supermarkets, seemingly either unaware or not caring of the consequences for themselves or the knock on effects for the NHS.


 


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


I can`t see the lockdown holding for another 5 weeks either,going to the end of May is pushing things to breaking point economically and socialy. Im pretty certain it will be extended for another 3 weeks on May 7th but with a few small relaxations eg families being able to visit each other in their respective houses and some non essential businesses being able to re-open. The govt are going to have to find a balance between health,the economy and society to be able to function in general.


What`s the point of being alive if you can`t live.

John p
25 April 2020 17:33:15


 


If you can't work from home then it is permissible to travel to your workplace. Football is a team sport so to train they will need to be together.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


If you’re using that argument, why haven’t they been training this week?


Camberley, Surrey
fairweather
25 April 2020 17:35:33


 


Sore throat was, I thought, but the other two weren't mentioned much at the beginning. As time goes on it seems almost anything can be a symptom!


My own mystery flu-light involved a pretty rough sore throat for a few days. I normally get a sore throat for a day or two before a cold, but this was something else! (I also didn't develop a blocked nose or congestion, just very mild flu-like symptoms. I still have the odd cough even now, a month on!)


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I'm glad you are coming round to my way of thinking - "I wonder what that was?". I'm sure it was viral but of course at the time nobody cared. I wonder if it killed a few old people? The other odd thing was it was ultra contagious. As a family over two households one or two of us often get colds at the same time but I don't think all six have had something with the same odd symptoms before, nor as many friends. I think my cough would have killed me if I had COPD as well but then it would have gone down as pneumonia on my death certificate no doubt.


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fairweather
25 April 2020 17:42:53


 


I only asked because my Uncles brother ( Cancer sufferer ) was admitted to hospital for treatment but got the virus and within 5 days had died , his days were numbered clearly and by all accounts was given until Xmas to live but cause of death will go down as the virus 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Surely that is right though? He was robbed of the last nine months of his life by the virus. Of course I don't know how low he was but if he had some quality of life it was still tragic.


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The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 17:44:16


 


If you can't work from home then it is permissible to travel to your workplace. Football is a team sport so to train they will need to be together.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Shows what a farce this "lockdown" is in reality. Is football "essential" work?


Seems there is a unilateral getting back to normal taking place, in the absence of clear govt instruction or enforcement


I think this is Cummings all over


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The Beast from the East
25 April 2020 17:46:13


 


I can`t see the lockdown holding for another 5 weeks either,going to the end of May is pushing things to breaking point economically and socialy. Im pretty certain it will be extended for another 3 weeks on May 7th but with a few small relaxations eg families being able to visit each other in their respective houses and some non essential businesses being able to re-open. The govt are going to have to find a balance between health,the economy and society to be able to function in general.


What`s the point of being alive if you can`t live.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


Agree. Sunday Times tomorrow should have the exclusive "secret plan" from what I hear


 


 


 


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Gavin D
25 April 2020 17:49:27

Regional data for new cases today in England


The 7 English regions 



  • London +278 (1.2%) 23,341

  • Midlands +469 (2.7%) 17,582

  • North West +457 (2.7%) 16,709

  • South East +480 (3.1%) 15,454

  • North East and Yorkshire +559 (3.6%) 15,431

  • East of England +297 (3.2%) 9,175

  • South West +173 (3.0%) 5,701


The 10 local areas with the highest cases



  1. Kent +167 (5.3%) 3,126

  2. Birmingham +66 (2.5%) 2,618

  3. Hampshire +80 (3.2%) 2,519

  4. Lancashire +80 (3.3%) 2,461

  5. Surrey +45 (1.9%) 2,333

  6. Essex +83 (3.8%) 2,202

  7. Hertfordshire +58 (2.8%) 2,092

  8. Sheffield +45 (2.4%) 1,901

  9. Cumbria +42 (2.5%) 1,675

  10. Staffordshire +51 (3.4%) 1,506


The 10 local areas with the lowest cases



  1. Rutland +3 (16.7%) 18

  2. Isle of Wight +4 (4.7%) 86

  3. North East Lincolnshire +9 (7.3%) 123

  4. Hartlepool +18 (12.1%) 149

  5. Torbay +5 (2.7%) 182

  6. Bracknell Forest +2 (1.1%) 185

  7. Peterborough +3 (1.6%) 188

  8. Bath and North East Somerset +6 (3.0%) 198

  9. North Somerset +10 (5.0%) 200

  10. ​​​​​​​Herefordshire, County of +13 (6.2%) 211

Roger Parsons
25 April 2020 17:50:15

Why has this become a football discussion thread when we have one available in the TWO Community Sports and Leisure Forum?
I'd be given short shrift if I wanted to discuss, say, badminton or well dressing.
R.


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Justin W
25 April 2020 17:54:11

Italy to allow bars and restaurants to reopen with enforced distancing from May 18.


We are six to eight weeks behind Italy.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Roger Parsons
25 April 2020 17:54:53


Agree. Sunday Times tomorrow should have the exclusive "secret plan" from what I hear


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



The Times: "I leak, therefore I am."


R.


RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

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