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JHutch
25 April 2020 15:20:30


 


The populist plebs are fed up with the lockdown and they won't believe it till a few of  their friends and relatives drop dead around them. Just spoke to a not particularly close relative who live in Christchurch and she said everybody down there thinks the restrictions are too much and nobody knows anybody who has had the virus. These people don't look at statistics and most are in the "I'm alright jack" sector of humanity. And just to make my day worse a female cousin of mine who lives in Texas, after I'd posted on my Facebook page about Trump's idiotic disinfectant comments, defended him and said that ozone pumped into the blood cures cancer. Doh ! I really do give up.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Some areas of the country have not seen many cases at all. Below are the english council areas with lowest rates of cases per 100,000 population. Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole are only slightly higher so i can understand some of what your relative said. Their problem is that if things do take off from here then there are more people to catch it and pass it on so getting off lucky now may lead to them having bigger problems down the road.


 


County              No. of cases  rate per 100,000




East Sussex                  491 88.5






Cornwall & IoS              444 78.1






Devon                          604 75.9






Somerset                     424 75.8






Wiltshire                      369 74.1






Dorset                         272 72.2






North East Lincs           114 71.3






Isle of Wight                  82 57.9






Rutland                         15 37.8



Polar Low
25 April 2020 15:20:49

Very sad and Grim


However, the deaths in care homes, which the daily figures from government do not include, are rising rapidly and could prove very difficult to get under control.


In fact, if we included them we would have passed the 20,000 mark some time ago.


 


 



Coronavirus: UK hospital deaths pass 20,000

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52424413.


 


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

fairweather
25 April 2020 15:22:06


either but I guess twisting anything that makes him sound ignorant suits some agendas (whether he is or not)

Originally Posted by: four 


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He is one of the few people ever to hold a position of such power where no twisting whatsoever is required to make him look ignorant. Just watch unedited video clips. Do you think he is well informed, insightful, knowledgeable, wise, learned, capable, understanding tolerant of others ?? These are a few of the antonyms of ignorant so if you think he has these attributes then fair enough.


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JHutch
25 April 2020 15:22:24

16,411 in hospital with Covid-19 down from 17,049 yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Nice to see a decent drop there, about 4% i think.

Brian Gaze
25 April 2020 15:23:48

16,411 in hospital with Covid-19 down from 17,049 yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That's quite a big drop. In recent days the trend has accelerated. Good news. 


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Gooner
25 April 2020 15:28:08


 


That's quite a big drop. In recent days the trend has accelerated. Good news. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


So are they patients JUST with COVID and no underlying symptoms?


 


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fairweather
25 April 2020 15:28:09


 


Did you see what Giuliani said the other day?


 




Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Isn't he suppose to be one of the smarter ones!! Did she get a chance to mention the word "contagious" to him  - I doubt it, it was Fox News.


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Polar Low
25 April 2020 15:28:40

Yes it is but for how long? Can hardly call it lockdown from these parts anymore.


 



 


That's quite a big drop. In recent days the trend has accelerated. Good news. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Gooner
25 April 2020 15:29:53

This 10 people bubble that is being touted around , WTF is that all about …………….you might as well open up restaurants and do a ticket system in pubs  


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fairweather
25 April 2020 15:32:17


 


I agree , I follow it on here and get some good info and stats / quotes etc - the majority of people are clueless


Oxfordshire - population of 700,000 yesterdays count of 1300 cases , so its a tiny % of people who know of someone , most think " what's the fuss about " 


The wife's mother in her late 70's thinks its blown out of proportion 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Sadly most people do - till they or somebody they love gets it!


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four
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25 April 2020 15:33:02
The symptom tracker app shows it fading away steadily but people might not be reporting as regularly as they were.
This is based on possible symptoms - or not having symptoms - by daily report (it nags you to do it)
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data 
(scroll down for animation)
fairweather
25 April 2020 15:33:47


I wonder if home deliveries will increase if we have 2 or 3 weeks of wet weather , I cant see many people standing in a queue  getting wet through


+ will they have the resources  


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I've got a few umbrellas 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gooner
25 April 2020 15:35:02

The symptom tracker app shows it fading away steadily but people might not be reporting as regularly as they were.
This is based on possible symptoms - or not having symptoms - by daily report (it nags you to do it)
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data
(scroll down for animation)

Originally Posted by: four 


But mine has never shown anymore than 2,500,000 contributing 


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four
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25 April 2020 15:36:39


 


But mine has never shown anymore than 2,500,000 contributing 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



You won't find a larger sample, and people are more likely to report on it if they have symptoms?


Gooner
25 April 2020 15:37:49




You won't find a larger sample, and people are more likely to report on it if they have symptoms?


Originally Posted by: four 


Ok, I've done it every day so far but I guess most have lost interest if truth be known 


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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Darren S
25 April 2020 15:39:48


 


Ok, I've don't it every day so far but I guess most have lost interest if truth be known 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


That would make the rate of infection go up, not down - unless people who were reporting symptoms are now all in hospital on a ventilator.


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Gavin D
25 April 2020 15:46:56

Daily slides


Transport - A bit of concern about the slight rise in motor vehicle usage



Cases - Starting to become more stable now



Hospitals - We're now seeing a sustained reduction in people treated in UK hospitals



2,910 patients are in ICU down from 3,360 from this time last week

Gooner
25 April 2020 15:48:09


 


That would make the rate of infection go up, not down - unless people who were reporting symptoms are now all in hospital on a ventilator.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


What , not using the App ?


Why would it ? 


I know 8 people at work who had it and I am the only one still using it , hence my original comment 


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Banbury
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Brian Gaze
25 April 2020 15:57:51

This was published a couple of weeks ago but I've just seen it now. The bolded section surprised me because I thought those were NOT symptoms.


Hillmann: Coronavirus is actually quite a significant spectrum of symptoms, from people who are entirely asymptomatic and would have no idea that they have it to people with very mild, cold-like symptoms – runny nose, congestion, sore throat – to people with more flu-like symptoms – high fevers, muscle aches, shortness of breath and cough. Loss of smell and taste are also symptoms. All the way up to people with severe illness, who we’re seeing in the hospital with respiratory failure, requiring ICU care.


https://www.theguardian.com/global/2020/apr/13/coronavirus-have-i-already-had-covid-19


 


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xioni2
25 April 2020 15:57:54

The symptom tracker app shows it fading away steadily but people might not be reporting as regularly as they were.
This is based on possible symptoms - or not having symptoms - by daily report (it nags you to do it)
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data
(scroll down for animation)

Originally Posted by: four 


That's interesting. It shows the peak of infections on April 1, which is also a good match for the lockdown (average incubation period is 5.5 days). 

Brian Gaze
25 April 2020 15:58:45


 


So are they patients JUST with COVID and no underlying symptoms?


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I've no idea TBH. 


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John p
25 April 2020 16:10:13

He didn't even mention bleach he said disinfectant which can be a range of things some are not particularly harmful e.g. iodine but you wouldn't inject it.
He didn't exactly suggest injecting it either but I guess twisting anything that makes him sound ignorant suits some agendas (whether he is or not)

Originally Posted by: four 


Imagine defending every bats**t crazy thing Donald Trump spews out.


Camberley, Surrey
Retron
25 April 2020 16:10:26


This was published a couple of weeks ago but I've just seen it now. The bolded section surprised me because I thought those were NOT symptoms.


Hillmann: Coronavirus is actually quite a significant spectrum of symptoms, from people who are entirely asymptomatic and would have no idea that they have it to people with very mild, cold-like symptoms – runny nose, congestion, sore throat


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Sore throat was, I thought, but the other two weren't mentioned much at the beginning. As time goes on it seems almost anything can be a symptom!


My own mystery flu-light involved a pretty rough sore throat for a few days. I normally get a sore throat for a day or two before a cold, but this was something else! (I also didn't develop a blocked nose or congestion, just very mild flu-like symptoms. I still have the odd cough even now, a month on!)


Leysdown, north Kent
Gavin D
25 April 2020 16:14:13

Italy



  • 2,357 new cases

  • 415 new deaths 

Gooner
25 April 2020 16:17:01


 


I've no idea TBH. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I only asked because my Uncles brother ( Cancer sufferer ) was admitted to hospital for treatment but got the virus and within 5 days had died , his days were numbered clearly and by all accounts was given until Xmas to live but cause of death will go down as the virus 


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