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The Beast from the East
29 April 2020 15:55:07



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


In my case, its every month! I dread to think what state mine is in


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
29 April 2020 15:58:53

Sickening to listen to all the TV news reporters praising Bozo for not taking paternity leave, without pointing out that he has NEVER taken paternity leave for any of his previous 6 or 7 kids, whom he never sees anyway. The state of British journalism is lamentable. At least O'Brien is still around


 




Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Gavin D
29 April 2020 16:02:45
26,097 deaths in England combined
The Beast from the East
29 April 2020 16:02:49


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Gavin D
29 April 2020 16:03:40
4,076 new cases in the UK
Gavin D
29 April 2020 16:04:25
765 new deaths in the UK
RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
29 April 2020 16:18:16

In Germany RKI reporting today that estimated reproduction number has dropped to  R = 0,75 (95%-Konfidenzintervall: 0,64-0,87)


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Gavin D
29 April 2020 16:22:38

Daily slides


Transport - Motor vehicle usage the highest since March 23rd



New cases. Pillar 1 is now below 2,000 to the lowest point since March 25th



Hospitals - London is dropping like a stone



Critical care 



Deaths in hospital with a rolling average



Deaths combines with a rolling average


Gandalf The White
29 April 2020 16:33:47


Sickening to listen to all the TV news reporters praising Bozo for not taking paternity leave, without pointing out that he has NEVER taken paternity leave for any of his previous 6 or 7 kids, whom he never sees anyway. The state of British journalism is lamentable. At least O'Brien is still around


 




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


That's brave of IDS. Talking bluntly about the leader's lifestyle, particularly when his latest partner in his latest relationship has just given birth.


Lucky it's not North Korea or his wife would be about to receive a life insurance payout.... 😉


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
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Gavin D
29 April 2020 16:34:37

Wetherspoon's has announced it is starting to plan for the reopening of its pubs "in or around June"

Quantum
29 April 2020 16:34:41


 


"I once created an online banking system, and used my monies to employ people cleverer than me to work on problems conceived 100 years ago, listen to my big brain opinions"


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
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Quantum
29 April 2020 16:37:29

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext#.Xqmlt9dsTmw.twitter


remdemisivr a waste of time along with HCQ.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Justin W
29 April 2020 16:41:53

I’ll repeat this again for the benefit of all the apologists: The U.K. has the highest death toll in Europe:



Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
SJV
29 April 2020 16:42:44

Have you got a larger image, Justin?


(edit: thanks!)

Justin W
29 April 2020 16:43:59

Have you got a larger image, Justin?

Originally Posted by: SJV 


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/apr/29/uk-coronavirus-live-priti-patel-questions-response-covid-19-crisis-pmqs-latest-updates


scroll down to 17:22


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gavin D
29 April 2020 16:47:54

Italy 



  • 2,086 new cases

  • 323 new deaths.

Roger Parsons
29 April 2020 16:55:45
For those of you who thought bleach was off the agenda: no it isn't. Now for something completely different...
Coronavirus: Outcry as Spanish beach sprayed with bleach
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52471208 

Roger
RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
JHutch
29 April 2020 17:13:35
Brian Gaze
29 April 2020 17:18:34

Seems like SAGE isn't particularly impressed with the situation in Germany. I await with interest to see their superior plan to move the UK forward. 


Brian Gaze
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Polar Low
29 April 2020 17:18:39

I’m Not so sure


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/gilead-reports-positive-data-on-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial.html


 


 


Gilead Sciences reported positive results from two studies that showed its therapy remdesivir could be a viable treatment to combat Covid-19


 The Dow likes this very much as we head into evening 


 


 



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext#.Xqmlt9dsTmw.twitter


remdemisivr a waste of time along with HCQ.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Quantum
29 April 2020 17:25:38


I’m Not so sure


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/gilead-reports-positive-data-on-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial.html


 


 


Gilead Sciences reported positive results from two studies that showed its therapy remdesivir could be a viable treatment to combat Covid-19


 The Dow likes this very much as we head into evening 


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


No control group. Bin it.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Polar Low
29 April 2020 17:28:48

Lots of money going in no smoke WOF?.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/stock-market-live-updates-dow-futures-up-150-waiting-for-gdp-alphabet-surging.html



 


No control group. Bin it.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Gavin D
29 April 2020 17:30:22

UK data



  • 33,455 people tested

  • 4,076 positive tests


The confirmed rate has fallen to 12.18%

Quantum
29 April 2020 17:34:22


Maybe there is another RCT with even more sound methodology that shows it works but I doubt it.


These observational studies without control groups are a complete waste of time, they showed HCQ as promising too. In reality these are two random drugs that had just as much chance working as any other random drug. The unfortunate reality is that anything that initially looked promising (and I was also taken in by it) was as a result of methodological flaws rather than anything to actually be excited about.


Hopefully I'm wrong but I trust 1 RCT over a hundred studies without control groups.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 3 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6), 23/11 (-2)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Gandalf The White
29 April 2020 17:36:29


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext#.Xqmlt9dsTmw.twitter


remdemisivr a waste of time along with HCQ.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Except that’s not what it says, is it...


Quote: “In this study of adult patients admitted to hospital for severe COVID-19, remdesivir was not associated with statistically significant clinical benefits. However, the numerical reduction in time to clinical improvement in those treated earlier requires confirmation in larger studies.”


It says quite clearly that the drug speeds up recovery but that finding requires a further, larger study to confirm - or otherwise.


Whether the reduction in time spent in a hospital bed warrants the cost of the drug is another matter, as is the issue of side-effects.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


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