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fairweather
30 April 2020 15:00:33


It looks like HMG has got its act together with regards to PPE and is now buying from companies in the UK.  We have an order for 3.2 million visors. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


   Well I say that but you better get off of here and crack on with it 

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John p
30 April 2020 15:11:43

Donald Trump has announced that the federal government in the US will not be renewing its social distancing rules when they expire later today

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Apparently it’s so he can resume his mass rallies in the run up to the election. 
The lunatic. 

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Caz
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30 April 2020 15:13:14


Excellent news.


It's taken what seems like an age but in reality is actually quite quick given the regulatory hurdles and the nature of 'safety first' procurement processes.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

The MD was quick off the mark with production as his wife works in critical care, then it took two or three weeks for us to get the necessary paperwork and certification for our product.  We’ve been supplying individual trusts for a few weeks but there was no commitment from the government.  


We had orders from abroad but wanted to keep them in the UK and it was utterly daft that we were selling abroad and buying the same thing from abroad.  Our MD went to the National press last week and did a couple of TV interviews, which seems to have done the trick.


We can produce PPE in this country but the red tape isn’t easy to cut through.  I believe HMG now has someone solely in charge of PPE procurement, which is exactly what is needed and should ensure we have the supplies we need. 

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springsunshine
30 April 2020 15:14:33

[quote=Maunder Minimum


However, most businesses should be allowed to reopen, but with social distancing enforced. Some restaurants and takeaways could also reopen in my view, if they have the possibility to distance customers from each other and also from staff. Pubs are a harder ask, since after a few beers people tend to relax their guard. Cinemas and theatres - no chance until something changes.



Takeaways have been allowed to remain open! As for restaurants,i doubt it yet,as its impossible to practise social distancing and for many they would be better off staying shut than operating at say 30% capacity.


 

David M Porter
30 April 2020 15:15:10


Dr Philip Lee was on LBC this morng:


Former Tory MP and doctor: Utter nonsense to call UK's coronavirus response a "success"


A doctor and former Conservative MP has told LBC that the UK's governance has failed spectacularly over the response to Covid-19.


Dr Phillip Lee is uniquely qualified to discuss the government response, having served as a Conservative Minister as well as a doctor.


He told Nick Ferrari that there have been a lot of unnecessary deaths due to the coronavirus pandemic and questioned why the primary goal of the government wasn't to reduce the loss of life.

He said: "The scale of unnecessary loss of life in this country is unacceptable. What angers me most is we could have done so much better.


https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/tory-mp-doctor-nonsense-uk-coronavirus-success/


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Dr Lee has it spot on, IMO.


The primary aim of HMG and all other governments around the world at the outset of this should have been to take whatever actions were necessary to mitigate, as much as was humanly possible, the spread of Covid-19 through their country and thus the number of people who became seriously ill to the point where their life was in danger. This should have been no more than plain old common sense.


It isn't as if this virus just erupted out of nowhere overnight with no prior warning; this country probably had more warning of what was coming than some others did. While I cannot speak as an expert on this matter of any kind, it shouldn't take a genius to realise that the sooner our government took steps to mitigate the spread of the virus within the UK as much as they could, the easier it would have been to have contained the virus here and limited the number of people that were infected.


 

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Caz
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30 April 2020 15:16:53


 


   Well I say that but you better get off of here and crack on with it 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Give me a break!  I started at 5.30 this morning.  

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springsunshine
30 April 2020 15:17:24


 


Thing is groups like 'spoons are better placed to function with social distancing in place than your small stand alone local. The pubs are bigger, the app technology that was already in place means Wetherspoons could operate with no counter service. Tables could be reduced and spread out, and either bookable via the app for a period or a physical limit on numbers in each premises put in place and the load factor could be added to the app so people could see whether they'd get into the pub before they arrive. Even moderately priced IP cameras now have automatic people counting capacity so that side of it could even be automated.


Originally Posted by: haggishunter 


Have you ever seen the clientel thatgo in Wetherspoons


No offence Beast

westv
30 April 2020 15:18:35


A short thread from Boris. Looks like the lockdown is here to stay any changes at next weeks review will be very small.



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That just repeats what he said on his first day back at No. 10.

At least it will be mild!
SJV
30 April 2020 15:23:39


The MD was quick off the mark with production as his wife works in critical care, then it took two or three weeks for us to get the necessary paperwork and certification for our product.  We’ve been supplying individual trusts for a few weeks but there was no commitment from the government.  


We had orders from abroad but wanted to keep them in the UK and it was utterly daft that we were selling abroad and buying the same thing from abroad.  Our MD went to the National press last week and did a couple of TV interviews, which seems to have done the trick.


We can produce PPE in this country but the red tape isn’t easy to cut through.  I believe HMG now has someone solely in charge of PPE procurement, which is exactly what is needed and should ensure we have the supplies we need. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


If it was always going to take this long to get PPE from UK suppliers through government orders then you would think we could have got this process streamlined earlier given the obvious and critical lack of PPE from the start. I think it is inexcusable that it has taken this long, when the curve has been flattened and we are on the other side of the peak. How many needless deaths have occurred in the meantime while the red tape was holding everything up?


 

Caz
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30 April 2020 15:25:27


 Have you ever seen the clientel thatgo in Wetherspoons


No offence Beast


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 

I have!  We have a rather nice country pub that is now a ‘spoons and the customers are very nice, especially me! 


Me and hubby sometimes go with our son and his girlfriend for a midweek evening meal!  We pay the bill of course, so ‘Spoons is a winner in my book!  

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Caz
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30 April 2020 15:31:15


If it was always going to take this long to get PPE from UK suppliers through government orders then you would think we could have got this process streamlined earlier given the obvious and critical lack of PPE from the start. I think it is inexcusable that it has taken this long, when the curve has been flattened and we are on the other side of the peak. How many needless deaths have occurred in the meantime while the red tape was holding everything up?


Originally Posted by: SJV 

I think they recognise that and that’s the reason they have a dedicated PPE procurement official.  What’s needed for the future is a database of companies that can diversify into producing critical equipment.  We’re learning an awful lot from this!

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Phil G
30 April 2020 15:31:59


The MD was quick off the mark with production as his wife works in critical care, then it took two or three weeks for us to get the necessary paperwork and certification for our product.  We’ve been supplying individual trusts for a few weeks but there was no commitment from the government.  


We had orders from abroad but wanted to keep them in the UK and it was utterly daft that we were selling abroad and buying the same thing from abroad.  Our MD went to the National press last week and did a couple of TV interviews, which seems to have done the trick.


We can produce PPE in this country but the red tape isn’t easy to cut through.  I believe HMG now has someone solely in charge of PPE procurement, which is exactly what is needed and should ensure we have the supplies we need. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


This is great news and beggars belief your MD had to go through all that. Made in Britain!

ozone_aurora
30 April 2020 15:43:27


We're doomed, aren't we?


KFC reopens for delivery in Broadstairs - sparking huge queues and police response


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/huge-queues-at-kfc-spark-police-call-out-226501/


"But it was a wasted trip as the outlet is not open to the public and is only operating to cater for deliveries.


The disruption, which left shoppers trying to get to the nearby Asda stuck in the traffic jam, sparked a police call-out as officers tried to ease the congestion"


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Gandalf The White
30 April 2020 15:46:01


The MD was quick off the mark with production as his wife works in critical care, then it took two or three weeks for us to get the necessary paperwork and certification for our product.  We’ve been supplying individual trusts for a few weeks but there was no commitment from the government.  


We had orders from abroad but wanted to keep them in the UK and it was utterly daft that we were selling abroad and buying the same thing from abroad.  Our MD went to the National press last week and did a couple of TV interviews, which seems to have done the trick.


We can produce PPE in this country but the red tape isn’t easy to cut through.  I believe HMG now has someone solely in charge of PPE procurement, which is exactly what is needed and should ensure we have the supplies we need. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Thanks.  I said some time back that it was no good blaming the NHS for being bureaucratic and that someone needed to be tasked with tackling a specific issue and making things happen. That's how you run a business when there's a key project that has to be tackled: make someone accountable for sorting it out and make it clear that they ave the authority to remove 'road blocks'.

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The Beast from the East
30 April 2020 16:02:01


 


Thing is groups like 'spoons are better placed to function with social distancing in place than your small stand alone local. The pubs are bigger, the app technology that was already in place means Wetherspoons could operate with no counter service. Tables could be reduced and spread out, and either bookable via the app for a period or a physical limit on numbers in each premises put in place and the load factor could be added to the app so people could see whether they'd get into the pub before they arrive. Even moderately priced IP cameras now have automatic people counting capacity so that side of it could even be automated.


Originally Posted by: haggishunter 


In our spoons most of the customers are old men who pay in cash and don't even have smartphones. It might work in other branches, but not here. We get students and some young people, but not enough to justify opening on these terms


 

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SJV
30 April 2020 16:03:48


I think they recognise that and that’s the reason they have a dedicated PPE procurement official.  What’s needed for the future is a database of companies that can diversify into producing critical equipment.  We’re learning an awful lot from this!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


We sure are Caz! 

The Beast from the East
30 April 2020 16:03:51


 


Apparently it’s so he can resume his mass rallies in the run up to the election. 
The lunatic. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


It will be a good test to see if the virus returns. If there is no second wave, then that will help Boris change his mind


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gavin D
30 April 2020 16:05:24

6,032 new cases


81,000 test yesterday


15,043 in hospital down from 15,359 yesterday

Gavin D
30 April 2020 16:07:52
Boris: We are past the peak we are on the downward slope
Sevendust
30 April 2020 16:10:59

Tajikistan reports first Covid cases(15)

Heavy Weather 2013
30 April 2020 16:17:13
What is clear from today’s briefing is that we are in this for the long haul and we not going to be back to normal for along time.

Tim Martins pubs won’t be opening anytime in June
Mark
Beckton, E London
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Gavin D
30 April 2020 16:18:09

Daily slides


No transport slide today


Hospitals



Critical care



Deaths all settings with a 7-day average


Gooner
30 April 2020 16:20:24

Road Map coming next week a menu of options of the relaxation 


 


That should be interesting 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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springsunshine
30 April 2020 16:20:30

Boris: We are past the peak we are on the downward slope

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 



I still think this lockdown will continue as it is for another 3 weeks after May 7th,albeit with some very small relaxations,and if all goes well some significant relaxations at the end of May for the summer.

Heavy Weather 2013
30 April 2020 16:40:54
Boris giving the biggest hint yet that masks will part of any easing of lockdown.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

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