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Chunky Pea
01 May 2020 16:53:48

Please tell me that this didn't actually happen..



 



Looks like our Gov is considering extending our current 2km travel restrictions to 5km in the near future. How very, very kind of them.  


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Quantum
01 May 2020 16:54:56


 


Gavin's post should read "Number of people tested" not "Number of tests"




Originally Posted by: Darren S 


Well the government met their target. In fact they beat their target by 20k


Honestly didn't think they would. Credit where credit's due.


 


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Bolty
01 May 2020 16:56:55
The roads are pretty much back to normal now. The lockdown has frayed at the seams.
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Ulric
01 May 2020 16:58:41


 


Got lost in the melee this morning.





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Gooner
01 May 2020 17:01:25


Latest Michael from my head


As you know, we are awaiting news next week regarding the reopening of schools which I do not foresee happening until at least June.  It is also quite certain that when we return, it will be through a phased return of some description and we do not yet understand how this will work – hopefully Boris will have a plan for next week!  I’ve sent in my views!


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Listening to Matt H's tone I really got the impression returning to school was some time off and he made it clear it will only be when its safe to do so , also saying he wants it to be back to how it was before they closed.


I don't think Boris will give a date next week just an indication of where they want the virus to be before they consider schools 


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John p
01 May 2020 17:03:32


 


Well the government met their target. In fact they beat their target by 20k


Honestly didn't think they would. Credit where credit's due.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


No they haven't. They've acquired a shed load of tests and stuck them in the post.  It's still a good effort though. 


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doctormog
01 May 2020 17:03:43

The roads are pretty much back to normal now. The lockdown has frayed at the seams.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


Very different here where things are still significantly quieter than normal.


Brian Gaze
01 May 2020 17:04:32


 


Well the government met their target. In fact they beat their target by 20k


Honestly didn't think they would. Credit where credit's due.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Whether they met their target is a moot point. However, they have certainly ramped up testing massively which is a good thing. Much less clear to me:


1) How many tests were actually processed


2) Who is being tested in pillar 1


3)If the criteria for testing in pillar 1 is being loosened it could be that the number of positives is falling at a worryingly slow rate


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Caz
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01 May 2020 17:06:23


 


Another gem from the BBC ticker:


Having set a target of 100,000 tests per day by the end of April, the government now says it reached 122,347 tests on Wednesday (the last day of the month).


The government had been averaging around 20,000 tests a day but this increased significantly over the last week.


When home testing kits became a significant part of the testing strategy last week, the Department of Health began counting those sent out as part of its daily test figures.


So, it doesn’t mean the test was actually used by someone on that day - or even received.


Previously, only instances in which the swab had been processed through a lab were counted as a test.


But the new definition - added on 27 April - included tests "posted to an individual at home".


On 29 April, the definition was extended yet further to also encompass "tests sent to... satellite testing locations".


According to figures released on 30 April, home testing kits accounted for over 18,000 of the daily tests, or a quarter of the total.


 


By that logic they could carpet bomb the country with a million testing kits at random and say they hit their target of 1,000,000 tests even if some never got opened, delivered or exploded upon impact 


Reminds me of cramming for an essay deadline and changing a few sentences and phrases to be as long-winded as possible just to scrape over the word count 


 


Still, as I said in a previous post, regardless of media-pleasing targets being 'met', there has been a sharp increase in testing however you look at it, and that can only be a good thing 


Originally Posted by: SJV 

Steve, this is the anomaly I was referring to with regard to the percentages.  Gavin posts these every day but I am wondering where he gets them from. 


We are given the total number of tests that were carried out yesterday and we are given a number for those that test positive.  The number of positive tests can’t possibly relate to the tests carried out yesterday, as the results would not be known yet.  So we can’t say the percentage of positive tests has fallen.  


PS - Yes it’s good that we’re now doing so many tests!  


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Heavy Weather 2013
01 May 2020 17:13:11
So Hancock gets his headline. But the numbers are shifty.

He really is a slimebag.
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llamedos
01 May 2020 17:18:07

So Hancock gets his headline. But the numbers are shifty.

He really is a slimebag.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Any explanation for that off the cuff remark?


 


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Caz
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01 May 2020 17:18:18


 


Whether they met their target is a moot point. However, they have certainly ramped up testing massively which is a good thing. Much less clear to me:


1) How many tests were actually processed


2) Who is being tested in pillar 1


3)If the criteria for testing in pillar 1 is being loosened it could be that the number of positives is falling at a worryingly slow rate


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I don’t see how they can keep up testing at 122,000 a day.  Unless they open testing to everyone they’ll soon run out of candidates, unless they test the same people every day.  


I wouldn’t want the test because by the time the negative result came back I could have caught it. 


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Retron
01 May 2020 17:19:18


 


Listening to Matt H's tone I really got the impression returning to school was some time off and he made it clear it will only be when its safe to do so , also saying he wants it to be back to how it was before they closed.


I don't think Boris will give a date next week just an indication of where they want the virus to be before they consider schools 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The thing that makes me suspicious is that those free laptops won't be delivered until June/July. It makes me wonder if they will, in fact, write off the summer term and instead aim for a late August / early September re-opening.


If not, then the government has been very generous indeed, and will no doubt now be expected to provide free laptops every year going forwards.


FWIW, my school's rota for staff on site goes out to next Thursday, but the head is expecting it to be extended... the first draft went out until the half term.


As it happens, I will be going in on Monday - a cover teacher has smashed her laptop screen, but has no idea how it happened... can I fix it there and then as she "likes the laptop, lol"... grr, no, she'll be getting whatever clunker I can find in the office instead. I'll be interested to see how busy it is out there on the main roads, and I'll make sure I'm wearing my "key worker" school lanyard in case there are any random checks by the police!


Leysdown, north Kent
noodle doodle
01 May 2020 17:21:29
When the ONS post out their census forms do they consider that job done?
SJV
01 May 2020 17:22:23


Latest Michael from my head


As you know, we are awaiting news next week regarding the reopening of schools which I do not foresee happening until at least June.  It is also quite certain that when we return, it will be through a phased return of some description and we do not yet understand how this will work – hopefully Boris will have a plan for next week!  I’ve sent in my views!


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Yes our head has sent an email out with the latest 'noises' saying June at the earliest but nothing concrete. The rest of the email was a few scenarios of how we could implement measures as and when we come back.


I remain of the view that I'd be surprised if we opened up before the summer holidays, certainly not at full capacity anyway.

Retron
01 May 2020 17:22:41


I don’t see how they can keep up testing at 122,000 a day.  Unless they open testing to everyone they’ll soon run out of candidates, unless they test the same people every day.  


I wouldn’t want the test because by the time the negative result came back I could have caught it. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


One of my friends has received one of these tests today. He lives with his mum and one of her work colleagues has been diagnosed with covid-19, so both he and his mum are being tested.


Apparently you have to take the swab between 9PM and 7AM on the morning of the day the test will be collected, as they're only viable for 48 hours!


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John p
01 May 2020 17:23:07

So Hancock gets his headline. But the numbers are shifty.

He really is a slimebag.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Today I can announce I have absolutely smashed my target of getting 100,000 girlfriends a day. I have achieved this by posting a very large number of letters to girls.


😅


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SJV
01 May 2020 17:25:17


Steve, this is the anomaly I was referring to with regard to the percentages.  Gavin posts these every day but I am wondering where he gets them from. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I assume Gavin gets them from the chart Darren posted that has the latest numbers.


What I think you're saying (and bear with me, my friend sent a maths puzzle on WhatsApp earlier which was engrossing but also draining and frustrating!) is that the number of positives from the chart can't relate to the number of people tested as the data doesn't come back that quickly, making the 8.47% a false figure?


I agree on that one, having given it some thought.


westv
01 May 2020 17:26:26

Delete. Posted in error.


At least it will be mild!
Quantum
01 May 2020 17:28:08


 


Today I can announce I have absolutely smashed my target of getting 100,000 girlfriends a day. I have achieved this by posting a very large number of letters to girls.


😅


Originally Posted by: John p 


This confuses me. Surely the tests reported today are the ones already conducted (regardless of the method) not ones in progress. If they were in progress it would be possible that the number of positives could be higher than the number of people tested, i.e a confusing 100%+ positive result would be possible if the number of tests on day x+1 had declined sharply on day x. And although we see a general increase day to day fluctuations make that possible.


 


Surely the number of tests (120k) or the number of people tested (75k) is the results delivered today. And, in which case, we could expect an even higher figure in three or more days time.


 


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Heavy Weather 2013
01 May 2020 17:29:46


Any explanation for that off the cuff remark?


 


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


He is a slimebag. 


Im sick of smoke and mirrors. It’s great we are testing more people or really is. But to claim you’ve hit a target by posting tests that yet are not complete is totally moving the goalposts.


 


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Quantum
01 May 2020 17:30:15

One thing that made me smile today was the Isle of Wight idea. It was virtually the same as the suggestion I've mentioned in here a few times!


I'm glad the government is going along with that, it just makes sense.


 


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Hippydave
01 May 2020 17:30:18


 


Today I can announce I have absolutely smashed my target of getting 100,000 girlfriends a day. I have achieved this by posting a very large number of letters to girls.


😅


Originally Posted by: John p 


 



TBH I'd much have preferred them to just be honest rather than indulge in sleight of hand rubbish to get to a headline figure. Why not just say we conducted XX tests with an additional XX postal tests sent out. The important thing is we're finally building to a reasonable testing capability.


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Quantum
01 May 2020 17:32:30

So to get this straight you can't just divide positives by total now to get the positive rate because Total is differentially lagged?!


Wow that's dumb if true.


 


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Justin W
01 May 2020 17:33:13


 


This confuses me. Surely the tests reported today are the ones already conducted (regardless of the method) not ones in progress. If they were in progress it would be possible that the number of positives could be higher than the number of people tested, i.e a confusing 100%+ positive result would be possible if the number of tests on day x+1 had declined sharply on day x. And although we see a general increase day to day fluctuations make that possible.


 


Surely the number of tests (120k) or the number of people tested (75k) is the results delivered today. And, in which case, we could expect an even higher figure in three or more days time.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


It is, as with pretty much everything excreted by HMG, a lie.


 


 




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