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JHutch
04 May 2020 08:31:20

Wow! Russia reporting a new 10.5k new cases today and the steady increase continues. 'Just' 76 new deaths reported. 'Great' if it's true, but the huge cover up continues. Perhaps a Russian is only registered dead two months after the event!

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


FWIW the tabloids are reporting that a third doctor has now fallen from a hospital window in Russia. He seems to have been involved in a video where he complained that he was being made to work despite being positive for covid-19 and also that there was not enough PPE. Doesn't seem to be being covered by the broadsheets or TV media here though.

Gavin D
04 May 2020 08:37:02
A "fast and accurate" coronavirus antibody test machine has been developed by researchers in Edinburgh. The NHS may not get it owing to interest in Europe.

https://www.lbcnews.co.uk/uk-news/coronavirus-antibody-tests-edinburgh-quotient-nhs/ 
DEW
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04 May 2020 08:42:47

"The guidance remains clear that those who can work from home should continue to do so, which suggests office workers will not be returning to work for many weeks - or even months - to come."

I'd be happy with that.

Originally Posted by: westv 


My daughter reports a big gulf between the [mostly older] senior managers who favor a return to the office and more junior staff who want to continue working from home


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Caz
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04 May 2020 08:44:05


 


There could be other factors in play, DEW. I email a weekly e-newsletter which regularly gets just over 70% opens. It goes out on a Wednesday and by Friday 60% of subscribers have opened it. The stats tell me subscribers are either "clickers" [on links] or "skimmers". Clickers are usually early-openers. Late openers are almost all Skimmers. This could be because they are late they may feel they have "missed the boat" and the opportunity to contribute much.


I'd put the drop off here down to "topic fatigue" or perhaps "reader fatigue". Much of the earlier thought experiments on the science were fascinating....


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Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Topic fatigue!   I’m in danger of repeating myself for the sixtieth time.  I still read posts, even the repetitive ones, though with eyes rolling, but I’ve given up responding and I don’t think it’s worth responding to the media reports either because they’re just tedious.  Having said that, there are some very good and useful posts!  


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Phil G
04 May 2020 08:44:24


 


FWIW the tabloids are reporting that a third doctor has now fallen from a hospital window in Russia. He seems to have been involved in a video where he complained that he was being made to work despite being positive for covid-19 and also that there was not enough PPE. Doesn't seem to be being covered by the broadsheets or TV media here though.


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Russia is claiming the increase in new cases is apparently down to more testing! From a report yesterday it said that 1,700 people a day in Moscow alone were being admitted to hospital. Just where are they going? Images from at least two weeks back showed ambulances queueing outside hospitals for 9 hours in massive jams. The report also says PPE is totally inadequate and there is not enough.

Caz
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04 May 2020 08:45:48

"The guidance remains clear that those who can work from home should continue to do so, which suggests office workers will not be returning to work for many weeks - or even months - to come."

I'd be happy with that.

Originally Posted by: westv 

I’m happy with that too!  I’d be more than happy to continue working from home all the time. 


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Caz
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04 May 2020 08:48:26


">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-seeks-world-support-in-most-urgent-shared-endeavour-of-our-lifetimes-11982721


We will know it by then as the govt drip feed information each day. Seems to be a strategy leading up to the bigger announcements. Bit by bit we get to know about them so come the day the announcement just confirms what we know already. I'm quite happy with that. It satisfies the moaning minnie media with their thirst for info, and by providing a piece of info each day it's easier for Joe Public to digest, rather than having it all in one go.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 Yes, that’s a good point and I agree, as long as the media interpret and report it correctly!  


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Sevendust
04 May 2020 08:51:09


 


Translation - My Cabinet is split


 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Or perhaps he doesn’t want people letting loose over the bank holiday weekend. Sounds to me like some restrictions may be lifted from next Monday. 



I agree with this. We were discussing the timing yesterday

Brian Gaze
04 May 2020 08:57:00

Sounds credible.


Was the virus in France last year?


The number of new recorded deaths is the lowest since late March, when only deaths in hospitals were being recorded. The new figures include deaths in care homes and have been declining for several days.


Meanwhile, an intensive care chief in the Paris region has told local media that the virus was present in France on 27 December - a month before the first cases were confirmed.


Yves Cohen told broadcaster BFMTV that his team had revisited negative tests for flu and other coronaviruses on 24 patients who had been in hospital with respiratory symptoms in December and January.


"Of the 24 patients, we had one positive result for Covid-19 on 27 December when he was in hospital with us," he said, adding that the test had been repeated several times to confirm the result.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52524001


 


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Gavin D
04 May 2020 08:58:52
Japan's government has extended the nationwide state of emergency until May 31st

xioni2
04 May 2020 09:16:51

Something that is not being made clear is how many of our new infections are at healthcare facilities (hospitals, GP surgeries and care homes). It's possible IMO that a considerable proportion (~half?) of new infections are from there and not in the community.


At the moment our number of new infections is still too high.

Gooner
04 May 2020 09:18:30


 


My daughter reports a big gulf between the [mostly older] senior managers who favor a return to the office and more junior staff who want to continue working from home


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Bet that's a trust thing 


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xioni2
04 May 2020 09:21:58

This sounds like a breakthrough:


Roche said its antibody test, Elecsys Anti-SARS-CoV-2, has a specificity rate of about 99.8% and sensitivity rate of 100%. The company had previously pledged to make its antibody test available by early May and to boost production by June to “high double-digit millions” per month.


The test requires an intravenous blood draw, but it could still be a game changer.


four
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04 May 2020 09:23:00


Something that is not being made clear is how many of our new infections are at healthcare facilities (hospitals, GP surgeries and care homes). It's possible IMO that a considerable proportion (~half?) of new infections are from there and not in the community.


At the moment our number of new infections is still too high.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


A surprising thing is that outbreaks in prison have not really been a thing, at least in the UK.


Brian Gaze
04 May 2020 09:28:33


My daughter reports a big gulf between the [mostly older] senior managers who favor a return to the office and more junior staff who want to continue working from home


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


As long as managers can measure the productivity of their workers I don't see why working from home or the beach or Timbuktu is an issue. Once I'd become an established IT contractor I would always ask the person/s interviewing me if I could work from home for at least a significant percentage of the week. If it wasn't an option I would look elsewhere. It generally wasn't a problem. Even many years ago when contracting at the conservative insurance group Mitsui Sumitomo I was able to come to an agreement where I did either 2 or 3 days from home each week. My advice is for people to have self confidence and a bit of "front" if they want to pursue working from home. (I realise MANY jobs can not be done remotely!)


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xioni2
04 May 2020 09:32:48


 As long as managers can measure the productivity of their workers I don't see why working from home or the beach or Timbuktu is an issue. Once I'd become an established IT contractor I would always ask the person/s interviewing me if I could work from home for at least a significant percentage of the week. If it wasn't an option I would look elsewhere. It generally wasn't a problem. Even many years ago when contracting at the conservative insurance group Mitsui Sumitomo I was able to come to an agreement where I did either 2 or 3 days from home each week. My advice is for people to have self confidence and a bit of "front" if they want to pursue working from home. (I realise MANY jobs can not be done remotely!)


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Agreed. I usually work from home 1-2 days a week and 4-5 weeks in the summer and I didn't really negotiate it, it was a take it or leave it approach to my employer. They are more than happy with it, because it's easy to measure productivity and performance.


Anyway, here is some more info on the antibody developed from Roche.


https://diagnostics.roche.com/global/en/products/params/elecsys-anti-sars-cov-2.html


 


 

The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 09:32:59


 


 Get some clippers, brew your own.


Originally Posted by: bledur 


Both dangerous activities. I live alone, so it might be hard to cut my own hair, though of course I have never tried it with a machine but its getting too long now even for clippers? I have been trimming my fringe with scissors, but I cant do the back, so its turning into a Chris Waddle


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Phil G
04 May 2020 09:34:22


Something that is not being made clear is how many of our new infections are at healthcare facilities (hospitals, GP surgeries and care homes). It's possible IMO that a considerable proportion (~half?) of new infections are from there and not in the community.


At the moment our number of new infections is still too high.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Yes and to think there are not too many layers we can tighten restrictions on, just what is causing this consistently high figures. We need to understand what is driving this so it can be tackled in some way, as assume it is nationwide. My gut feeling is it is mainly supermarkets where it is only just about the only place where people congregate to some degree. We need to sort this out, or at least find the cause before any measures are relaxed otherwise we will never be able to address the problem.

The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 09:34:26



A surprising thing is that outbreaks in prison have not really been a thing, at least in the UK.


Originally Posted by: four 


Shame


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The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 09:35:43


 


FWIW the tabloids are reporting that a third doctor has now fallen from a hospital window in Russia. 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


They do like throwing people out of windows. Check out the latest series of Killing Eve


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xioni2
04 May 2020 09:36:06


 Both dangerous activities. I live alone, so it might be hard to cut my own hair, though of course I have never tried it with a machine but its getting too long now even for clippers? I have been trimming my fringe with scissors, but I cant do the back, so its turning into a Chris Waddle


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHH5xvQZyc

Roger Parsons
04 May 2020 09:38:04


Both dangerous activities. I live alone, so it might be hard to cut my own hair, though of course I have never tried it with a machine but its getting too long now even for clippers? I have been trimming my fringe with scissors, but I cant do the back, so its turning into a Chris Waddle


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Ponytail time, Beast! My beard is getting magnificent! Pity it's white - I'm going to have to work on my HoHoHos!



 


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xioni2
04 May 2020 09:38:45


 Yes and to think there are not too many layers we can tighten restrictions on, just what is causing this consistently high figures. We need to understand what is driving this so it can be tackled in some way, as assume it is nationwide. My gut feeling is it is mainly supermarkets where it is only just about the only place where people congregate to some degree. We need to sort this out, or at least find the cause before any measures are relaxed otherwise we will never be able to address the problem.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


A not so cynical person might think that the government doesn't explain the distribution of new infections, because a lot of them could be caused by inadequate PPE at health care facilities. Not me though, I have 100% confidence and loyalty to HMG.

Retron
04 May 2020 09:43:26


This sounds like a breakthrough:


Roche said its antibody test, Elecsys Anti-SARS-CoV-2, has a specificity rate of about 99.8% and sensitivity rate of 100%. The company had previously pledged to make its antibody test available by early May and to boost production by June to “high double-digit millions” per month.


The test requires an intravenous blood draw, but it could still be a game changer.



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


It's one of a few >99% accuracy tests that have gained the CE mark - my dad's old company, Abbott Labs, had one certified a few days earlier.


Hopefully we'll see these being offered to the public sooner rather than later - they're the key, IMO, to restoring a semblance of normality.


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Gandalf The White
04 May 2020 09:44:02


 


Ponytail time, Beast! My beard is getting magnificent! Pity it's white - I'm going to have to work on my HoHoHos!



 


R.


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


You’ll need to practice a lot because there will be lots of competition.


Might even be a few barbers testing out a second job...


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