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Brian Gaze
04 May 2020 05:55:54

We've had coronaphobia will we now start to see corona fatigue? 


Brian Gaze
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DEW
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04 May 2020 06:48:15


We've had coronaphobia will we now start to see corona fatigue? 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


There were only 9 pages on tis topic on each of the last two days instead of 12-15 as has been the case. But posting also suffers from a weekend effect - I've always though that more posts are made by people 'at work' than at home


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westv
04 May 2020 07:09:58
Maybe we could move to weekly threads rather than daily?
At least it will be mild!
Brian Gaze
04 May 2020 07:11:48

It appears the 2m rule will be eased after all?


Two metre distancing may be eased for work


Employers will not be required to maintain social distancing of two metres between workers under government proposals to reopen the UK's workplaces.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52524344


 


Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
04 May 2020 07:14:58

This has been known for weeks. We've seen countless photos of Drs and nurses wearing surgical masks rather than FFP3s and it is one of the obvious signs of the shortage of PPE in the NHS.


Surgical mask fails to shield from coronavirus infection


Surgical masks recommended by Public Health England for NHS staff dealing with undiagnosed patients do not protect against coronavirus, experts say.


A test of the standard surgical mask, known as Type IIR, found that it was not sealed sufficiently to protect wearers from particles that spread the virus. Unlike the FFP3 industrial mask, worn to treat patients who have tested positive, the surgical mask allows wearers to breathe in unfiltered air from the sides.


The study was conducted by James Douglas, a GP and expert in occupational health and aerosol generating procedures in industry, and Niall McLean, a former councillor with a background in PPE training.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/surgical-mask-fails-to-shield-from-coronavirus-infection-vm0b9ts32


 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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doctormog
04 May 2020 07:19:46


It appears the 2m rule will be eased after all?


Two metre distancing may be eased for work


Employers will not be required to maintain social distancing of two metres between workers under government proposals to reopen the UK's workplaces.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52524344


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes, they could do this instead...



Gooner
04 May 2020 07:20:35


It appears the 2m rule will be eased after all?


Two metre distancing may be eased for work


Employers will not be required to maintain social distancing of two metres between workers under government proposals to reopen the UK's workplaces.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52524344


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Also mentions screens and other PPE if the two metre rule cant be applied , that's an issue in itself .


I'm interested in hearing the bit about schools if I'm honest , I want to see how the hell that's going to be managed 


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westv
04 May 2020 07:21:52


It appears the 2m rule will be eased after all?


Two metre distancing may be eased for work


Employers will not be required to maintain social distancing of two metres between workers under government proposals to reopen the UK's workplaces.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52524344


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes, but it goes on to say when 2m can't be maintained then "additional measures" could be used.


At least it will be mild!
westv
04 May 2020 07:22:53
"The guidance remains clear that those who can work from home should continue to do so, which suggests office workers will not be returning to work for many weeks - or even months - to come."

I'd be happy with that.
At least it will be mild!
speckledjim
04 May 2020 07:27:50

"The guidance remains clear that those who can work from home should continue to do so, which suggests office workers will not be returning to work for many weeks - or even months - to come."

I'd be happy with that.

Originally Posted by: westv 


My wife is beginning week 8 working from home and it has worked fine. Once restrictions are eased she reckons she’ll need to go down to London now and again but it won’t be for 2 nights every week as she previously did. They hot desk too so that will be easy for them to ensure that there are only a certain number in at any time.


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Roger Parsons
04 May 2020 07:28:53


There were only 9 pages on tis topic on each of the last two days instead of 12-15 as has been the case. But posting also suffers from a weekend effect - I've always though that more posts are made by people 'at work' than at home


Originally Posted by: DEW 


There could be other factors in play, DEW. I email a weekly e-newsletter which regularly gets just over 70% opens. It goes out on a Wednesday and by Friday 60% of subscribers have opened it. The stats tell me subscribers are either "clickers" [on links] or "skimmers". Clickers are usually early-openers. Late openers are almost all Skimmers. This could be because they are late they may feel they have "missed the boat" and the opportunity to contribute much.


I'd put the drop off here down to "topic fatigue" or perhaps "reader fatigue". Much of the earlier thought experiments on the science were fascinating....


R.


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Roger Parsons
04 May 2020 07:31:14


My wife is beginning week 8 working from home and it has worked fine. Once restrictions are eased she reckons she’ll need to go down to London now and again but it won’t be for 2 nights every week as she previously did. They hot desk too so that will be easy for them to ensure that there are only a certain number in at any time.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


"Hot Desk" now takes on a most unsavoury connotation. Maybe "Hot, sticky, dangerous Desk" might be more apposite?


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RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
westv
04 May 2020 07:34:38


 


My wife is beginning week 8 working from home and it has worked fine. Once restrictions are eased she reckons she’ll need to go down to London now and again but it won’t be for 2 nights every week as she previously did. They hot desk too so that will be easy for them to ensure that there are only a certain number in at any time.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Was four nights a week for me. I have my own desk though so I didn't have to hot desk.


At least it will be mild!
The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 08:02:08


It appears the 2m rule will be eased after all?


Two metre distancing may be eased for work


Employers will not be required to maintain social distancing of two metres between workers under government proposals to reopen the UK's workplaces.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52524344


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Does this mean pubs and hair salons can re-open?


I need a haircut and a proper pint!


 


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Gavin D
The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 08:05:42

He's a poet too


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"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 08:06:57

Boris won't be revealing his lockdown exit plan until Sunday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-seeks-world-support-in-most-urgent-shared-endeavour-of-our-lifetimes-11982721


Translation - My Cabinet is split


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
04 May 2020 08:09:49


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Phil G
04 May 2020 08:13:00

Boris won't be revealing his lockdown exit plan until Sunday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-seeks-world-support-in-most-urgent-shared-endeavour-of-our-lifetimes-11982721


We will know it by then as the govt drip feed information each day. Seems to be a strategy leading up to the bigger announcements. Bit by bit we get to know about them so come the day the announcement just confirms what we know already. I'm quite happy with that. It satisfies the moaning minnie media with their thirst for info, and by providing a piece of info each day it's easier for Joe Public to digest, rather than having it all in one go.

Retron
04 May 2020 08:14:23


Yes, but it goes on to say when 2m can't be maintained then "additional measures" could be used.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Having just come back from the school there's nothing official yet. As I said to the head of the site team (from 2m away), the corridors are too narrow really to have two abreast, so you'd end up with one pupil at a time going along....


Nothing from the council, either, but the site team have got some masks in. They're also going to order industrial quantities of hand sanistiser from a local company.


EDIT: Just had an email from one of the senior team. They're expecting it'll be years 10 and 12 back first, but still nothing official.


Leysdown, north Kent
bledur
04 May 2020 08:16:28


 


Does this mean pubs and hair salons can re-open?


I need a haircut and a proper pint!


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 Get some clippers, brew your own.

Phil G
04 May 2020 08:16:51


">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-seeks-world-support-in-most-urgent-shared-endeavour-of-our-lifetimes-11982721

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Translation - My Cabinet is split


 



I'm happy to give them a few extra days to get this right, or do the best they can! Let's hope no big negative news comes out from anywhere already relaxing between Thursday and Sunday.

Phil G
04 May 2020 08:25:06
Wow! Russia reporting a new 10.5k new cases today and the steady increase continues. 'Just' 76 new deaths reported. 'Great' if it's true, but the huge cover up continues. Perhaps a Russian is only registered dead two months after the event!
speckledjim
04 May 2020 08:29:21


">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-seeks-world-support-in-most-urgent-shared-endeavour-of-our-lifetimes-11982721

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Translation - My Cabinet is split


 



Or perhaps he doesn’t want people letting loose over the bank holiday weekend. Sounds to me like some restrictions may be lifted from next Monday. 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
David M Porter
04 May 2020 08:29:44

"The guidance remains clear that those who can work from home should continue to do so, which suggests office workers will not be returning to work for many weeks - or even months - to come."

I'd be happy with that.

Originally Posted by: westv 


As someone who is in the middle of a period of self-isolation owing to being in one of the high-risk groups, I won't be able to return to my office until I am advised by my doctors at my local hospital that it is safe for me to go out and about as normal again, whenever that will be.


Even if that takes again a safe and effective vaccine is available, then so be it.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022

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