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Brian Gaze
07 May 2020 05:50:34

The world's most famous surgical masks turn out to be unusable.


Some 400,000 surgical gowns ordered from Turkey have not been given to NHS workers because they do not meet British safety standards, the government has confirmed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52569364


 


Brian Gaze
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roadrunnerajn
07 May 2020 05:53:59


The world's most famous surgical masks turn out to be unusable.


Some 400,000 surgical gowns ordered from Turkey have not been given to NHS workers because they do not meet British safety standards, the government has confirmed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52569364


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

If it wasn’t so sad ... this would make a good carry on film. 


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Gooner
07 May 2020 05:56:09

Had a manic afternoon and evening so just catching up from yesterday 


6,000 new cases is a real concern , if that continues I wonder 'if' Boris might change the contents of his speech on Sunday ?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Justin W
07 May 2020 06:10:17


Had a manic afternoon and evening so just catching up from yesterday 


6,000 new cases is a real concern , if that continues I wonder 'if' Boris might change the contents of his speech on Sunday ?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Tragically, HMG has briefed the RWM that the lockdown will start to be eased from Monday and the Brexit mob are baying that lives must be lost to save Britain’s ‘economic model’. So a second catastrophe looms.


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Justin W
07 May 2020 06:11:56

The BoE has just confirmed that it thinks GDP has fallen by 30%.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Retron
07 May 2020 06:19:18


The BoE has just confirmed that it thinks GDP has fallen by 30%.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


...and the pound's popped up a third of a cent. Funny how losing almost a third of GDP is seen as good - truly, we live in crazy times.


Also with the papers today, ye gods... I expect there'll be rather more people out and about in the warmth tomorrow, as the beans have been spilled.


I'm sure the head at work will be pleased to be getting info via the papers rather than the government too (especially if, as the Mirror says, they plan to get more kids in on Monday... that'll require extra staff on site compared to the past few weeks, so it would have nice to have been warned officially!)


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Brian Gaze
07 May 2020 06:28:34
Boris will announce Monday will be the beginning of the end for lockdown. Surely as a pound shop Churchill he should be saying it is the "end of the beginning".
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Joe Bloggs
07 May 2020 06:34:26

From what I’ve read this morning, measures announced from Monday will be relatively limited, basically allowing unlimited time outdoors (with social distancing), which let’s be honest, a lot of people are doing already. 


I suspect businesses will start opening from 1st June, with many of the lockdown measures continuing for another three weeks.  



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Ulric
07 May 2020 06:35:10


I think this is an effort by HMG to unlock by stealth so that when we get the inevitable second spike, it can say that it had not changed the guidance.


 


We are now heading for a second fiasco.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


As usual, this will be a game about shifting blame (and therefore liability) to the individual and away from the government.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Brian Gaze
07 May 2020 06:41:17


From what I’ve read this morning, measures announced from Monday will be relatively limited, basically allowing unlimited time outdoors (with social distancing), which let’s be honest, a lot of people are doing already. 


I suspect businesses will start opening from 1st June, with many of the lockdown measures continuing for another three weeks.  


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Technically I think you will be right. However, there is a lot of nudge nudge, wink wink taking place. The lockdown is lifting "organically" and the government is making no attempt to stop it. Just look at traffic levels. They are MUCH higher now and locally I reckon between 50% and 70% normal. 


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Ulric
07 May 2020 06:44:13


...and the pound's popped up a third of a cent. Funny how losing almost a third of GDP is seen as good - truly, we live in crazy times.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Demand for Sterling on world markets hasn't depended on domestic UK economic activity for many years.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Joe Bloggs
07 May 2020 06:47:22


 


Technically I think you will be right. However, there is a lot of nudge nudge, wink wink taking place. The lockdown is lifting "organically" and the government is making no attempt to stop it. Just look at traffic levels. They are MUCH higher now and locally I reckon between 50% and 70% normal. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I agree. 


Meanwhile. In New Zealand, as long as they have their borders closed, their panic can end for now. I’m jealous.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/07/new-zealand-halfway-down-everest-as-ardern-plans-big-easing-of-covid-lockdown?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 



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DEW
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07 May 2020 06:52:49


 


I agree. 


Meanwhile. In New Zealand, as long as they have their borders closed, their panic can end for now. I’m jealous.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/07/new-zealand-halfway-down-everest-as-ardern-plans-big-easing-of-covid-lockdown?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Their problem will come later, when they want to rejoin the rest of the world.


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Ulric
07 May 2020 06:53:54


Technically I think you will be right. However, there is a lot of nudge nudge, wink wink taking place. The lockdown is lifting "organically" and the government is making no attempt to stop it. Just look at traffic levels. They are MUCH higher now and locally I reckon between 50% and 70% normal. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Exactly. The government sees all this as the responsibility of the individual rather than the state. They will, as usual, issue guidance or even regulation, but not enforce.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Joe Bloggs
07 May 2020 06:54:49


 


Their problem will come later, when they want to rejoin the rest of the world.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Possibly.


They are in a much stronger position in my view as they can keep their borders closed until there is either a more effective treatment or a vaccine. 


I get the impression Ardern will do anything to keep her people safe. 



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four
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07 May 2020 07:02:37

More often than not, the “solutions” these left-leaning experts come up with make the problems they’re grappling with even worse, and so it will prove to be in this case. The evidence mounts on a daily basis that locking down whole populations in the hope of “flattening the curve” was a catastrophic error, perhaps the worst policy mistake ever committed by Western governments during peacetime. Just yesterday we learnt that the lockdowns have forced countries across the world to shut down TB treatment programmes which, over the next five years, could lead to 6.3 million additional cases of TB and 1.4 million deaths. There are so many stories like this it’s impossible to keep track. We will soon be able to say with something approaching certainty that the cure has been worse than the disease.



https://thecritic.co.uk/the-fatal-hubris-of-professor-lockdown/


Heavy Weather 2013
07 May 2020 07:10:37
HMG with their leaked information to the RWM have all but ensured we will have a second wave of catastrophe.

We will probably have to lockdown again doing yet even more damage to the economy.

What a calamity.
Mark
Beckton, E London
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Brian Gaze
07 May 2020 07:34:21

More news on the NHS app-ocalypse. Android specifically this time: 


The other permission [when using Bluetooth] that you must declare is ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION*. Your app needs this permission because a Bluetooth scan can be used to gather information about the location of the user. This information may come from the user's own devices, as well as Bluetooth beacons in use at locations such as shops and transit facilities.


*Allows an app to access precise location.


https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth


 


Brian Gaze
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speckledjim
07 May 2020 07:35:47
Interesting piece from the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692 
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Quantum
07 May 2020 07:40:37

So apparantely there are thoughts of abandoning the NHS app and going with an apple/google one.


Imagine my shock, the NHS bodged up an IT project yet again.


Seriously, the NHS should never have been allowed to have anything to do with this contract training app in the first place.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gandalf The White
07 May 2020 07:41:13


 


Technically I think you will be right. However, there is a lot of nudge nudge, wink wink taking place. The lockdown is lifting "organically" and the government is making no attempt to stop it. Just look at traffic levels. They are MUCH higher now and locally I reckon between 50% and 70% normal. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yet the traffic round here has changed very little: a slight uptick but I’d say still 10-20% of what it was. Popped out to do the weekly shop yesterday and the M11 was still amazingly quiet; just a handful of private cars.


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Brian Gaze
07 May 2020 07:43:22

Interesting piece from the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


It should end with "This article was funded by HMG". Bizarrely it shows a graph which proves that the chance of dying increases for both males and females as they get older even if corona virus didn't exist. By the time you reach 90 the chance of dying in a given year is really quite high. Who'd have thunk it? You learn something new everyday.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Quantum
07 May 2020 07:44:09


More news on the NHS app-ocalypse. Android specifically this time: 


The other permission [when using Bluetooth] that you must declare is ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION*. Your app needs this permission because a Bluetooth scan can be used to gather information about the location of the user. This information may come from the user's own devices, as well as Bluetooth beacons in use at locations such as shops and transit facilities.


*Allows an app to access precise location.


https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I mean one thing they could have done is get Niantic to do it. Niantic was responsible for Pokemon Go and the first mobile virtual reality game (on the real world map) Ingress. Not only do Niantic use the exact technology in Ingress/PoGo that this app would need to use but they also have huge amounts of data on pedestrian traffic and data hotspots.


Niantic has also got its apps to work on pretty much every mobile platform and they have an inbuilt feature which allows the App to work in the background with GPS data so you don't even have to have the App open for it to collect data.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
ozone_aurora
07 May 2020 07:44:35

There's a lot of traffic here in Lowestoft, of what I can hear out the back of my property. More like ordinary weekday.

speckledjim
07 May 2020 07:45:43


 


Yet the traffic round here has changed very little: a slight uptick but I’d say still 10-20% of what it was. Popped out to do the weekly shop yesterday and the M11 was still amazingly quiet; just a handful of private cars.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


It’s still quiet by me, I can run on the road and see v little in the way of traffic. 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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