That's a bit simplistic, FW. Anybody criticising the government is giving specific reasons for doing so.

What seems to have developed is a core of people who have previously expressed consistent support for the Tory Party and/or Brexit, who endlessly defend this government regardless of performance, whilst they condemn those who criticise the government as having an anti-government agenda. 

Meanwhile those critical of the government have begun criticising those who faithfully defend them whilst criticising the critics.

Got that? 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

There was no ‘context’ 

Let’s try again. Here’s your post in its entirety 

“Originally Posted by: Quantum

 If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.

 Giving people more responsibility when they can't handle the small amount they had seems ridiculous.

  If I was running things, it would be very different though I canguarantee none of you would like it.”

Even when you’re wrong and I’ve demonstrated it clearly you still argue. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

There was no ‘context’ 

Let’s try again. Here’s your post in its entirety 

“Originally Posted by: Quantum

 If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.

 Giving people more responsibility when they can't handle the small amount they had seems ridiculous.

  If I was running things, it would be very different though I canguarantee none of you would like it.”

Even when you’re wrong and I’ve demonstrated it clearly you still argue. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

I'm in no way left wing (despite what Maunder might claim) and I am highly critical of HMG's record on Covid-19.

Originally Posted by: Justin W 

UK data

• Total tests - 100,490


• People tested - 65,337


• Positive tests - 3,877


• All setting deaths - 210 (goes against NHS England data of 209 I sense a mess up again)

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

No, you said NHS England reported 209 hospital deaths. All settings deaths are 210. Is that just England data?

Originally Posted by: Caz 

I don't think I have ever accused you of being left wing. We have strong differences of opinion for sure, but I have never considered you to be a raving leftie - I see you rather as a Blair/Major/Heseltine type - part of the globalist, internationalist centre ground who sees the concerns of many ordinary people (and Brexit supporters) to be somewhat parochial. You are prone to the odd hissy fit, that is personality not politics

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

I found this odd on the BBC News and typifies the lack of genuine thought and logic. Golf can start up with a maximum of two players. Must be social distancing and recommended not to touch flags (new rule allows flag to stay in now for putting anyway) and bunker rakes. That all makes perfect sense and I see no risk of cross transmission. Then they said basketball will also be allowed. So is each player going to sterilise the ball before they throw it to the next or keep social distance? One can only assume they mean that a single individual can stand on their own and throw a ball at a net and backplate.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

To further confuse matters the Daily Mirror is reporting 219 UK hospital deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uks-coronavirus-hospital-death-22008514

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Daily Mail and Telegraph also ripping into Johnson today. Even Schofield has had enough!

But, no, the diehard bots here continue to defy reality!

Originally Posted by: Justin W 

Because, having clarified my position, and pointed you to context in other posts you would rather argue with a strawman than accept on facevalue what I say my position is. I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours gandalf.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

You really don't like to be proved wrong, do you?

You made a comment; I responded to that comment; you claim 'context', which apparently means I have to read every single one of your posts to try to guess what's going on inside your little head.

Sorry, life's too short.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Let's face it you never believe anything they write, can't think why you would suddenly now. 

Fickle and all that   

Originally Posted by: llamedos