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Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:00:54
Wales has reported 124 new cases and 5 new deaths
Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:02:59
NHS England has reported 209 new hospital deaths up from 178 yesterday



Last Monday NHS England reported 204 new hospital deaths
Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:03:39
Scotland has reported 141 new cases and 5 new deaths
fairweather
11 May 2020 13:03:58


 


 


That's a bit simplistic, FW. Anybody criticising the government is giving specific reasons for doing so.


What seems to have developed is a core of people who have previously expressed consistent support for the Tory Party and/or Brexit, who endlessly defend this government regardless of performance, whilst they condemn those who criticise the government as having an anti-government agenda. 


Meanwhile those critical of the government have begun criticising those who faithfully defend them whilst criticising the critics.


Got that? 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Not entirely! To confuse you more I am not for one minute saying people shouldn't be criticising the government  as I am and do but just found it interesting that when I suggested some things maybe they should have said there were no alternative views, other suggestions or comments, but just arguments about what they had said.

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Quantum
11 May 2020 13:05:07


 


There was no ‘context’ 


Let’s try again. Here’s your post in its entirety 


“Originally Posted by: Quantum Go to Quoted Post



 If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.


 Giving people more responsibility when they can't handle the small amount they had seems ridiculous.


  If I was running things, it would be very different though I canguarantee none of you would like it.”


 


Even when you’re wrong and I’ve demonstrated it clearly you still argue. Unbelievable.



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Because, having clarified my position, and pointed you to context in other posts you would rather argue with a strawman than accept on facevalue what I say my position is. I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours gandalf.


 

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Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:06:53

April 8th remains the peak in England with 886 deaths +2 on yesterday


Rolling chart with backdated data


Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:10:37

UK data



  • Total tests - 100,490

  • People tested - 65,337

  • Positive tests - 3,877

  • All setting deaths - 210 (goes against NHS England data of 209 I sense a mess up again)

fairweather
11 May 2020 13:11:18

I found this odd on the BBC News and typifies the lack of genuine thought and logic. Golf can start up with a maximum of two players. Must be social distancing and recommended not to touch flags (new rule allows flag to stay in now for putting anyway) and bunker rakes. That all makes perfect sense and I see no risk of cross transmission. Then they said basketball will also be allowed. So is each player going to sterilise the ball before they throw it to the next or keep social distance? One can only assume they mean that a single individual can stand on their own and throw a ball at a net and backplate.

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Gooner
11 May 2020 13:13:54


 


There was no ‘context’ 


Let’s try again. Here’s your post in its entirety 


“Originally Posted by: Quantum Go to Quoted Post



 If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.


 Giving people more responsibility when they can't handle the small amount they had seems ridiculous.


  If I was running things, it would be very different though I canguarantee none of you would like it.”


 


Even when you’re wrong and I’ve demonstrated it clearly you still argue. Unbelievable.



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Retron
11 May 2020 13:14:03

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6887280/FINAL-6-6637-CO-HMG-C19-Recovery-FINAL-110520-v1.pdf


There's the document. It's very light on detail for secondary schools at least...


"Secondary schools and further education colleges should also prepare to begin some face to face contact with Year 10 and 12 pupils who have key exams next year, in support of their continued remote, home learning."


That's pretty much useless - it kind of hints at that being on June 1st, same as primaries, but doesn't explicitly give any dates.


I'm sure my head will be delighted, not!

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Maunder Minimum
11 May 2020 13:18:29


 


I'm in no way left wing (despite what Maunder might claim) and I am highly critical of HMG's record on Covid-19.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I don't think I have ever accused you of being left wing. We have strong differences of opinion for sure, but I have never considered you to be a raving leftie - I see you rather as a Blair/Major/Heseltine type - part of the globalist, internationalist centre ground who sees the concerns of many ordinary people (and Brexit supporters) to be somewhat parochial. You are prone to the odd hissy fit, that is personality not politics

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Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:23:21
So. We have 210 UK deaths but 209 in England??



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11 May 2020 13:28:11


UK data



  • Total tests - 100,490

  • People tested - 65,337

  • Positive tests - 3,877

  • All setting deaths - 210 (goes against NHS England data of 209 I sense a mess up again)


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

No, you said NHS England reported 209 hospital deaths. All settings deaths are 210. Is that just England data?

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Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:30:09


No, you said NHS England reported 209 hospital deaths. All settings deaths are 210. Is that just England data?


Originally Posted by: Caz 


 


209 was England


210 is the UK 

Gavin D
11 May 2020 13:33:06
To further confuse matters the Daily Mirror is reporting 219 UK hospital deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uks-coronavirus-hospital-death-22008514 

Justin W
11 May 2020 13:36:58


 


I don't think I have ever accused you of being left wing. We have strong differences of opinion for sure, but I have never considered you to be a raving leftie - I see you rather as a Blair/Major/Heseltine type - part of the globalist, internationalist centre ground who sees the concerns of many ordinary people (and Brexit supporters) to be somewhat parochial. You are prone to the odd hissy fit, that is personality not politics


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 



You are correct. I left the Tory Party in 1995 when the b4stards were starting to undermine Major who I thought was a good PM. 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Phil G
11 May 2020 13:43:50


I found this odd on the BBC News and typifies the lack of genuine thought and logic. Golf can start up with a maximum of two players. Must be social distancing and recommended not to touch flags (new rule allows flag to stay in now for putting anyway) and bunker rakes. That all makes perfect sense and I see no risk of cross transmission. Then they said basketball will also be allowed. So is each player going to sterilise the ball before they throw it to the next or keep social distance? One can only assume they mean that a single individual can stand on their own and throw a ball at a net and backplate.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


I would of thought basketball was one of the last sports they should bring back. Contact, indoors, touching equipment, just about crosses every box.

Brian Gaze
11 May 2020 13:47:40

To further confuse matters the Daily Mirror is reporting 219 UK hospital deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uks-coronavirus-hospital-death-22008514

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Clearly a day of mixed messages. Even the dead are confused.

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Justin W
11 May 2020 13:48:43

P1ers Morgan was absolutely on fire this morning. Completely destroyed the abject Brigden. And spot on in every respect:


https://youtu.be/ha2vyuQprnQ

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
llamedos
11 May 2020 13:51:18


 


Daily Mail and Telegraph also ripping into Johnson today. Even Schofield has had enough!


But, no, the diehard bots here continue to defy reality!


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Let's face it you never believe anything they write, can't think why you would suddenly now. 


Fickle and all that   

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Sevendust
11 May 2020 14:01:32

Injecting anything into a debate that is even mildly vague or ambiguous in the current climate is a car crash given the inability of sections of the British Public to think for themselves in a responsible way.


Social media is more of a festering sore than usual today

Gandalf The White
11 May 2020 14:05:19


 


Because, having clarified my position, and pointed you to context in other posts you would rather argue with a strawman than accept on facevalue what I say my position is. I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours gandalf.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


You really don't like to be proved wrong, do you?


You made a comment; I responded to that comment; you claim 'context', which apparently means I have to read every single one of your posts to try to guess what's going on inside your little head.


Sorry, life's too short.

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westv
11 May 2020 14:09:04


 


You really don't like to be proved wrong, do you?


You made a comment; I responded to that comment; you claim 'context', which apparently means I have to read every single one of your posts to try to guess what's going on inside your little head.


Sorry, life's too short.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Quantum should have been a politician!

At least it will be mild!
Phil G
11 May 2020 14:10:49
Guy on BBC news special just said could play singles tennis against someone OUTSIDE your household. Has he got that right as first I have heard.
Justin W
11 May 2020 14:11:09


 


Let's face it you never believe anything they write, can't think why you would suddenly now. 


Fickle and all that   


Originally Posted by: llamedos 



I said "Even the Mail and the Telegraph..."


 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?

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