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speckledjim
11 May 2020 14:30:43

Guy on BBC news special just said could play singles tennis against someone OUTSIDE your household. Has he got that right as first I have heard.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I don’t believe that is correct, you can play with someone in your own household only. 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
The Beast from the East
11 May 2020 14:37:49

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"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
John p
11 May 2020 14:37:54
The Beast from the East
11 May 2020 14:38:50


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
noodle doodle
11 May 2020 14:39:34
Where are we on the tory blame-dodging timeline? Looking like moving from Stage 2 to Stage 3 by the posts today?

1. Before the event - "well it's too early to tell / scaremongering / we have procedures in place"
2. At the time of the event - "now is not the time / rally round"
3. After the event - "well hindsight is always 20-20 / easy to criticise / lessons will be learned "
Phil G
11 May 2020 14:40:41


 


I don’t believe that is correct, you can play with someone in your own household only. 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


That's what I thought. Let's see what the PM says.

The Beast from the East
11 May 2020 14:41:20


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
westv
11 May 2020 14:42:26




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Never heard of her. Is she a reality tv star?


At least it will be mild!
xioni2
11 May 2020 14:43:35

Where are we on the tory blame-dodging timeline? Looking like moving from Stage 2 to Stage 3 by the posts today?

1. Before the event - "well it's too early to tell / scaremongering / we have procedures in place"
2. At the time of the event - "now is not the time / rally round"
3. After the event - "well hindsight is always 20-20 / easy to criticise / lessons will be learned "

Originally Posted by: noodle doodle 



4. Don't look back now, that's all in the past - let's focus on the future


5. Who cares about what the public inquiry found, it's all ancient history now.

Saint Snow
11 May 2020 14:44:59


 


That's what I thought. Let's see what the PM says.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 


You can play with another person. As long as they're from your household. Unless they're not from your household and you can play with them. Under some circumstances. And only some sports.


Clear as mud.



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Saint Snow
11 May 2020 14:46:00


 


Never heard of her. Is she a reality tv star?


Originally Posted by: westv 


 


I think she's just a very good judge of character.



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Saint Snow
11 May 2020 14:47:37


 



4. Don't look back now, that's all in the past - let's focus on the future


5. Who cares about what the public inquiry found, it's all ancient history now.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


I think you can replace 1-5 with a subtext of either "it doesn't matter... Brexit" or "it doesn't matter... Boris stopped the lefties"


 


 



Martin
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A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
xioni2
11 May 2020 14:48:34

0.23% of the whole NYC population has now died from CV19


Caz
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11 May 2020 14:50:20


Injecting anything into a debate that is even mildly vague or ambiguous in the current climate is a car crash given the inability of sections of the British Public to think for themselves in a responsible way.


Social media is more of a festering sore than usual today


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

I seriously wonder what happened to common sense!  Heaven knows we complain enough about being spoon fed, maybe that’s caused some to forget how to take responsibility.


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Quantum
11 May 2020 14:50:58


 


You really don't like to be proved wrong, do you?


You made a comment; I responded to that comment; you claim 'context', which apparently means I have to read every single one of your posts to try to guess what's going on inside your little head.


Sorry, life's too short.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Oh for christ sake what do you want. I clarified my position and I said I do not believe that the UK will return to normality. So, what, because I made a misleading or unclear post that suddenly means I have to be judged against something I do not believe nor have ever believed.


Its semantic rubbish. I'm telling you now, this is my position:


I believe it would have been possible to return to the kind of normality we experienced in February (which is what I meant by 'virtual normality') I did not, nor ever claimed, that it would have been possible to return to a situation prior to the pandemic.


 


I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours. This is your problem, you care more about making quick gotcha points then what my position actually is.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
11 May 2020 14:51:14


0.23% of the whole NYC population has now died from CV19



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


How many people are they estimating have been infected?


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Saint Snow
11 May 2020 14:51:15




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Morgan is usually an utter arsehole, but throughout this debacle he's been brilliant, and one of the few high-profile TV presenters/journalists to actually cut through the flannel and stand up to this incompetent shower of sh*te.



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Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
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xioni2
11 May 2020 14:59:07


 How many people are they estimating have been infected?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I don't know, the state is testing at more than double our rate (~1.4m tests to date) and they have confirmed ~350k cases so far.

SJV
11 May 2020 15:03:58


 



4. Don't look back now, that's all in the past - let's focus on the future


5. Who cares about what the public inquiry found, it's all ancient history now.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Excellent so we have our own five point alert system now? 

Saint Snow
11 May 2020 15:04:21


 


Oh for christ sake what do you want. I clarified my position and I said I do not believe that the UK will return to normality. So, what, because I made a misleading or unclear post that suddenly means I have to be judged against something I do not believe nor have ever believed.


Its semantic rubbish. I'm telling you now, this is my position:


I believe it would have been possible to return to the kind of normality we experienced in February (which is what I meant by 'virtual normality') I did not, nor ever claimed, that it would have been possible to return to a situation prior to the pandemic.


 


I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours. This is your problem, you care more about making quick gotcha points then what my position actually is.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 


If we rewind to how this saga began, GtW merely disputed your claim that if lockdown procedures had been followed we'd by now be 'virtually back to normal'.You could have saved yourself and GtW time and energy by just clarifying that saying 'virtually back to normal' was an error on your part, but instead you initially denied saying it (it was there in black and white!) then claiming you were correct in some context you'd concocted inside your your head.


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Maunder Minimum
11 May 2020 15:04:38

Don't know whether this has been posted yet, but clarity emerges from the fog now the full document has been published:


Step One – Wednesday 13th May


Work:



  • Workers should continue to work from home rather than their normal physical workplace, wherever possible.

  • Workers who cannot work from home should travel to work if their workplace is open.

    • e.g. food production, construction, manufacturing, logistics, distribution and scientific research in laboratories.

    • Exceptions being hospitality and non-essential retail



  • workplaces should follow the new “COVID-19 Secure” guidelines, which will be published this week


Schools:



  • A full reopening of schools is not on the table

  • Hope that Reception, Year 1 and Year 6 pupils will be able to return to school, albeit in smaller class sizes

  • Government hopes secondary school GCSE pupils will get some face-to-face time before the summer holidays, however as a supplement to continued online classes

  • Nannies and childminders will be allowed to resume work, enabling more parents to return to work.


Travel: 



  • Government to publish advice this week to transport operators on following appropriate guidance to make their services COVID-19 secure


Face-coverings:



  • Homemade cloth face-coverings can help reduce the risk of transmission in some circumstances

    • Not the same as a facemask used by health workers

    • Shouldn’t be used by young children or primary age children or those with respiratory conditions




Public spaces:



  • The risk of infection outside is significantly lower than inside

  • Cannot meet up with any more than one person from outside your household

  • Unlimited exercise

  • However, playgrounds and outdoor gyms will remain closed

  • You can drive to outdoor spaces irrespective of distance, provided you’re not crossing boundaries between England/Scotland/Wales


New world order coming.
speckledjim
11 May 2020 15:05:29


 


That's what I thought. Let's see what the PM says.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


just read the detail on gov.uk and you can play golf and tennis for example with one person who is not from your household but you must maintain social distancing. 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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xioni2
11 May 2020 15:05:54


 Excellent so we have our own five point alert system now? 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Yes, but some people will still manage to be in stage 6.


Darren S
11 May 2020 15:05:59

To further confuse matters the Daily Mirror is reporting 219 UK hospital deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uks-coronavirus-hospital-death-22008514

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The Hospital Deaths for the four nations don't correspond with the total UK deaths announced each day, because the totals are taken at different intervals. So today we apparently have more hospital deaths than the deaths in all settings, that's just because of interval differences. These discrepancies will work in both directions and don't need analysis.


Meanwhile, here's a graph showing how the reported death dates and actual dates of death compare.




Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Quantum
11 May 2020 15:14:25


 


 


If we rewind to how this saga began, GtW merely disputed your claim that if lockdown procedures had been followed we'd by now be 'virtually back to normal'.You could have saved yourself and GtW time and energy by just clarifying that saying 'virtually back to normal' was an error on your part, but instead you initially denied saying it (it was there in black and white!) then claiming you were correct in some context you'd concocted inside your your head.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I never denied saying it, I merely said it was not intended to mean back to normal in the pre COVID sense.


Perhaps it was misleading, perhaps the terminology was wrong. Fine, I'll happily admit that. But after explicitly clarifying exactly what the position is multiple times, GTW still insists that I meant something else. So what, I lied about my own position now?


Its ridiculous, its clearly an attempt to score a gotcha point.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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