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xioni2
12 May 2020 13:49:08

Have you say I am impressed with the governments extension of the furlough scheme. This aspect has been managed well.

This will give clarity to employers and reassurance to millions of workers.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Agreed!


 

westv
12 May 2020 13:55:56



What evidence is there to directly link the alleged attack to her death.
We don't even know the attacker actually had CV or if there was more context not disclosed.
I really wonder why any newspaper reports in this way, are they trying to increase tension or what.
It's actually rather sinister what they will do for clicks.


Originally Posted by: four 


Both employees were spat at. Both employees went down with CV19 14 days after the event. It could be a coincidence of course.

At least it will be mild!
Saint Snow
12 May 2020 14:01:07


If it’s the only holiday you’re likely to get this year, go for it!  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


We've got RyanAir flights booked for a long weekend in early July, staying with friends at their villa in Mercia. Trouble is, the friends are still here in the UK (they tend to do a few months here, few months there, etc) after having their travel cancelled at the end of April. They're only planning to go in September now.


I assumed I'd just cancel or re-arrange, but that greedy, grabbing scumbag O'Leary has announced RyanAir flights will be restarting early July. Given their [illegal] withholding of fares for flights they've not fulfilled, I think the chances of being able to cancel and get my cash back is zilch, and if I want to rearrange no doubt prices will have spiked for alternative dates and I'll have to pay a hefty surcharge. I only used them because they're they only ones flying to & from Murcia International on the days we wanted.


Knew I'd regret it.


 



 Your girls will only be this age once and if you wait, this time will be lost!  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I'm acutely aware of that!


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Brian Gaze
12 May 2020 14:06:33

Have you say I am impressed with the governments extension of the furlough scheme. This aspect has been managed well.

This will give clarity to employers and reassurance to millions of workers.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I know some people think I'm like a reformed smoker and only post negative comments about the Tory government these days. So to disprove that theory I will say that Sunak has been excellent. In fact a "dream time" now would probably compromise Hunt and Sunak running the Tory Party.

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The Beast from the East
12 May 2020 14:08:43

The worlds other populist government is also in serious trouble. There is a common theme here - Trump, Boris, Bolsonario and Putin


 



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The Beast from the East
12 May 2020 14:11:44


 


I know some people think I'm like a reformed smoker and only post negative comments about the Tory government these days. So to disprove that theory I will say that Sunak has been excellent. In fact a "dream time" now would probably compromise Hunt and Sunak running the Tory Party.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


No way!, perhaps Rory Stewart or even your gardener Gauke


If Boris resigns over this and Sunak takes over, then Labour would be worried. He has got that X factor and would sweep up the ethnic vote

"We have some alternative facts for you"
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Maunder Minimum
12 May 2020 14:14:32


 


I know some people think I'm like a reformed smoker and only post negative comments about the Tory government these days. So to disprove that theory I will say that Sunak has been excellent. In fact a "dream time" now would probably compromise Hunt and Sunak running the Tory Party.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Rishi Sunak definitely has the potential to become a future leader and Prime Minister.


He is a solid communicator and clear about his intentions. He has also been helped since the Treasury appears to have a much better track record of implementing IT solutions quickly and reliably to match the Chancellor's policy intentions.


 

New world order coming.
Bertwhistle
12 May 2020 14:25:12



What evidence is there to directly link the alleged attack to her death.
We don't even know the attacker actually had CV or if there was more context not disclosed.
I really wonder why any newspaper reports in this way, are they trying to increase tension or what.
It's actually rather sinister what they will do for clicks.


Originally Posted by: four 


Yeah, but honestly, just doing that is bad enough, then saying that you're infected: regardless of the illness, how must those poor people have felt afterwards? 


Press coverage also calls into question why an employee with a known underlying condition was allowed to work at the front.

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westv
12 May 2020 14:28:29


 


We've got RyanAir flights booked for a long weekend in early July, staying with friends at their villa in Mercia. Trouble is, the friends are still here in the UK (they tend to do a few months here, few months there, etc) after having their travel cancelled at the end of April. They're only planning to go in September now.


I assumed I'd just cancel or re-arrange, but that greedy, grabbing scumbag O'Leary has announced RyanAir flights will be restarting early July. Given their [illegal] withholding of fares for flights they've not fulfilled, I think the chances of being able to cancel and get my cash back is zilch, and if I want to rearrange no doubt prices will have spiked for alternative dates and I'll have to pay a hefty surcharge. I only used them because they're they only ones flying to & from Murcia International on the days we wanted.


Knew I'd regret it.


 


 


I'm acutely aware of that!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I always try to avoid Ryanair even if that means not going to somewhere I might like. They seem to take crappy customer service to another level.

At least it will be mild!
Heavy Weather 2013
12 May 2020 14:30:41


 


I always try to avoid Ryanair even if that means not going to somewhere I might like. They seem to take crappy customer service to another level.


Originally Posted by: westv 


I flew with them once and I haven’t done since. I found the whole experience awful.


I much prefer to pay that bit extra and fly with BA.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Caz
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12 May 2020 14:34:41


We've got RyanAir flights booked for a long weekend in early July, staying with friends at their villa in Mercia. Trouble is, the friends are still here in the UK (they tend to do a few months here, few months there, etc) after having their travel cancelled at the end of April. They're only planning to go in September now.


I assumed I'd just cancel or re-arrange, but that greedy, grabbing scumbag O'Leary has announced RyanAir flights will be restarting early July. Given their [illegal] withholding of fares for flights they've not fulfilled, I think the chances of being able to cancel and get my cash back is zilch, and if I want to rearrange no doubt prices will have spiked for alternative dates and I'll have to pay a hefty surcharge. I only used them because they're they only ones flying to & from Murcia International on the days we wanted.


Knew I'd regret it.


 I'm acutely aware of that!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

If the Foreign Office advice is not to travel, then you should be entitled to a refund from Ryanair.  You will no doubt have to fight for it though.  If you took out insurance, they’ll pay up on FO advice if the airline refuse a refund.


Sorry for stating the bleedin’ obvious!   I knew you’d be acutely aware but it’s my go-to phrase these days, as you’ll understand why.  I do hope you manage to get away.  

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Darren S
12 May 2020 14:47:29


I found out the other day that a chap I know will be affected by this until December.


Ouch!!


 


https://employeebenefits.co.uk/aon-employees-to-receive-pay-reductions/


Originally Posted by: westv 


Not 20%, but my colleagues and I (excluding those furloughed) have been basically forced to accept a 10% pay cut for the good of the company with no end date given, effective from the start of April.


As both of our annual family holidays have now been cancelled by the operators, that's about £10,000 that I won't be spending, so I won't miss the 10% of my take-home pay that I won't be getting. Then there's fuel costs; I drove 27 miles in April, normally it would be well over 1,000 miles a month.

Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Heavy Weather 2013
12 May 2020 14:47:36
Total of 627 UK settings deaths reported and 3.4k positive tests.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
doctormog
12 May 2020 14:51:02


 


I always try to avoid Ryanair even if that means not going to somewhere I might like. They seem to take crappy customer service to another level.


Originally Posted by: westv 


No pun intended? 

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Phil G
12 May 2020 14:53:15


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0511/1137763-what-can-we-learn-from-swedens-covid-19-icu-figures/


Interesting article comparing infection rates in Sweden and Ireland. In particular, it compares ICU admissions in the two countries. You would think that this ought to be a good way of comparing countries. Obviously, there are significant differences in the way different states record deaths and apparent infection rates will differ based on the amount of testing done. However, international admission rates to ICU ought to be reasonably comparable. The article suggests that Sweden's infection rate is 3 times worse than Ireland's. By way of comparison to the UK, our figures are better than yours but not significantly. So all in all, the above suggests that Sweden may be the woest affected country in Eurpe. Which wouldn't be a huge surprise, of course.  


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


That's very interesting Lionel. Do you know the source of these figures as I'd like to look at a number of other countries if possible. Thanks

Darren S
12 May 2020 14:54:12

Total of 627 UK settings deaths reported and 3.4k positive tests.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Yep. The lowest number of positive tests since 31st March, despite having tested over 60,000 people.


The number of deaths is higher than the last 3 days as expected, but compares well with last Tuesday given the figures include a catch-up from a long weekend.



Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Gavin D
12 May 2020 14:54:37
60,410 people tested
3,403 confirmed as positive
Confirmed rate is 5.63%.
Joe Bloggs
12 May 2020 15:03:10



What evidence is there to directly link the alleged attack to her death.
We don't even know the attacker actually had CV or if there was more context not disclosed.
I really wonder why any newspaper reports in this way, are they trying to increase tension or what.
It's actually rather sinister what they will do for clicks.


Originally Posted by: four 


The BBC have also included the story on their home page.


Coronavirus: Victoria ticket worker dies after being spat at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52616071


Do you think it shouldn’t be reported? 


Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
fairweather
12 May 2020 15:07:45



What evidence is there to directly link the alleged attack to her death.
We don't even know the attacker actually had CV or if there was more context not disclosed.
I really wonder why any newspaper reports in this way, are they trying to increase tension or what.
It's actually rather sinister what they will do for clicks.


Originally Posted by: four 


Yeah, don't worry. As if it's not bad enough to be spat in the face and die of Corona virus. COuld you tell me your context when it's ok to spit in a ticket collector's face ??

S.Essex, 42m ASL
chelseagirl
12 May 2020 15:09:51


 


We've got RyanAir flights booked for a long weekend in early July, staying with friends at their villa in Mercia. Trouble is, the friends are still here in the UK (they tend to do a few months here, few months there, etc) after having their travel cancelled at the end of April. They're only planning to go in September now.


I assumed I'd just cancel or re-arrange, but that greedy, grabbing scumbag O'Leary has announced RyanAir flights will be restarting early July. Given their [illegal] withholding of fares for flights they've not fulfilled, I think the chances of being able to cancel and get my cash back is zilch, and if I want to rearrange no doubt prices will have spiked for alternative dates and I'll have to pay a hefty surcharge. I only used them because they're they only ones flying to & from Murcia International on the days we wanted.


Knew I'd regret it.


 


 


I'm acutely aware of that!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

. I had Stansted to Murcia on 21 March to go out to my brothers place. He is like your friends, a couple of months each time. Still waiting for refund for that. Have another flight booked 29 June, this time to Almeria, as for some unknown reason was cheaper than Murcia when I booked it, and have now got to wait and see for that one. I don’t suppose the fact that is is s return flight for a week, and that Spain have now put a 14 day self isolation into affect, will change OLearys mind about refunds. 

The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
Saint Snow
12 May 2020 15:10:09


 


The BBC have also included the story on their home page.


Coronavirus: Victoria ticket worker dies after being spat at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52616071


Do you think it shouldn’t be reported? 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


I think Four's thinking is that it might reflect badly on angry, violent, possibly racist scumbags and he doesn't want them demonised.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Justin W
12 May 2020 15:12:15



What evidence is there to directly link the alleged attack to her death.
We don't even know the attacker actually had CV or if there was more context not disclosed.
I really wonder why any newspaper reports in this way, are they trying to increase tension or what.
It's actually rather sinister what they will do for clicks.


Originally Posted by: four 


You've let yourself down with this post. Shame, because you made some good points earlier but this one is abject.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
fairweather
12 May 2020 15:14:08


 


I flew with them once and I haven’t done since. I found the whole experience awful.


I much prefer to pay that bit extra and fly with BA.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I've only ever flown once with Ryan Air and it was dire. Massive jump up to Easy Jet. BA not great and only just above Easy Jet these days so not worth the extra on a flight under 4 hours in my opinion.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Saint Snow
12 May 2020 15:14:22


. I had Stansted to Murcia on 21 March to go out to my brothers place. He is like your friends, a couple of months each time. Still waiting for refund for that. Have another flight booked 29 June, this time to Almeria, as for some unknown reason was cheaper than Murcia when I booked it, and have now got to wait and see for that one. I don’t suppose the fact that is is s return flight for a week, and that Spain have now put a 14 day self isolation into affect, will change OLearys mind about refunds. 


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


 


Wish you luck. I'd be happy with a reschedule to any available date at the same price - but RyanAir won't even do that, just give you a credit for the fare you've lost to put to a more expensive flight. He's a multi-billionaire, spends €millions racehorses, but tries to screw every last quid out of his customers. Problem is, it's often the only option


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Lionel Hutz
12 May 2020 15:46:38


 


That's very interesting Lionel. Do you know the source of these figures as I'd like to look at a number of other countries if possible. Thanks


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Other than what's in the article, I don't really have any source for these figures. A quick google shows lots of by country comparisons for deaths and infection rates but I couldn't find any global tables for ICU admissions. Given the difficulties with comparing stats between countries, you would think that ICU admissions might be a clearer way of comparing. Unless, of course, some countries are quicker to admit people to ICU than others.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


 Looking at the above table, the Swedes haven't really been doing a great job on testing either. They're well behind Ireland on testing - we have 214K tests while they have 148K tests and remember that they have twice our population. On a per capita basis, they also seem to be well below the UK in terms of testing. Despite the relatively low testing levels, they're still not far behind the UK on overall infection rates on a per capita basis. The only metric on which the Swedes are ahead of the UK is on deaths. However, it all depends on how deaths are recorded and the earlier article that I posted suggests that the Swedes are a little bit shy of recording Corona virus as a cause of death. It's interesting to focus on Sweden given that they have a much lighter lockdown than most.


 

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



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