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Downpour
06 May 2021 21:13:57


 


 


That's how I remember it. The amazing July turned rubbish as soon as the kids broke up from school. August was very sketchy.


That's happened a number of times in recent years. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Although certainly not last year and in fact not frequently despite it being a oft-repeated myth on here!


Chingford
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Saint Snow
06 May 2021 21:26:54


 


Although certainly not last year and in fact not frequently despite it being a oft-repeated myth on here!


Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


I think the effect is more noticeable in the west and north of the Midlands. 2006, 2013, 2014 were the most notable, with August tanking after very good June/July spells.


Even in 2018, August was the worst month out of that May/June/July/August period (May, June and early July were the best, with an easterly feed dominating)



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Saint Snow
06 May 2021 21:28:59

This is a superb chart, and typical of much of May/June/early July 2018:


 




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Ally Pally Snowman
06 May 2021 21:41:07


This is a superb chart, and typical of much of May/June/early July 2018:


 



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


GFS has be churning out charts similar to this recently.  Could easily happen this year.


 


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David M Porter
06 May 2021 21:52:50


 


 


I think the effect is more noticeable in the west and north of the Midlands. 2006, 2013, 2014 were the most notable, with August tanking after very good June/July spells.


Even in 2018, August was the worst month out of that May/June/July/August period (May, June and early July were the best, with an easterly feed dominating)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I have seen people comment on this forum on a number of occasions that there hasn't been a notably good August in the UK since 2003. I would certainly subsribe to that view on the basis of the weather I have experienced in many Augusts in my part of the world.


What I recall about August 2003 here was that the hottest weather seemed to peter out after mid-month, although it was still settled for most of the time. While the first half had some high nightime minima here, the nights in the second half of the month were generally quite a bit cooler.


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idj20
06 May 2021 22:05:49




It would be hilarious if the Kent Rain Deflector come into play on that occasion.   Being a widespread dynamic frontal rainfall set up, I do think it is pretty much baked in with at least 15 mm minimum for my location on Saturday. It's the showery stuff that I tend to keep missing out on, such as today. 


Originally Posted by: idj20 



As I was saying about the Kent Rain Deflector. The latest 18z ICON run is showing just 5 mm for my location up to the end of Tuesday.     


Looking properly wet over South Wales and Dartmoor, though.


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Ally Pally Snowman
06 May 2021 22:08:54




As I was saying about the Kent Rain Deflector. The latest 18z ICON run is showing just 5 mm for my location up to the end of Tuesday.     


Looking properly wet over South Wales and Dartmoor, though.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


It always amazes me how much wetter the West can be compared to the East on our tiny little island. 


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Downpour
07 May 2021 06:17:34




As I was saying about the Kent Rain Deflector. The latest 18z ICON run is showing just 5 mm for my location up to the end of Tuesday.     


Looking properly wet over South Wales and Dartmoor, though.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


 


indeed the downgrades are starting in earnest this morning. WeatherPro now only gives 11mm for my location (was 16mm as recently as yesterday), with the rain clearing by lunchtime. I wonder how much further that will fall? 


Chingford
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Jiries
07 May 2021 07:16:57


This is a superb chart, and typical of much of May/June/early July 2018:


 



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


We are extremely well over due for some warm hot weather that we haven't seen one this Spring and more like Icelandic climate here where temps stuck at single digits to low teens rain or shine.  Models need to realized we are now heading to summer month soon so must start giving us warm hot charts eventually and well much sooner than later.

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07 May 2021 07:18:05

16-dayer showing the temps gradually improving over W Europe but even into week 2 still below average for the time of year. Wet for week 1 but dry in week 2, a change from previous forecasts


GFS - LP moving in Sun 9th 970 mb SW Ireland, staying around and filling to Thu 13th. Although it drags up some warmth for the SE at first, it ends up as a cool pool later on. That sinks a little further south but is unusually persistent, essentially n place for 10 days, encouraging E-lies over the south but something milder from the Atlantic over Scotland.


GEFS - burst of warmth with rain in SE tomorrow, then a long period with temps close to or a little below norm, and rain in most runs from time to time (no drier period as above). The control run for Scotland shows a couple of periods with cold outliers 15th and 20th.


ECM - rather like GFS but the cold pool links up with LP on the Atlantic preventing warmth reaching Scotland


 


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idj20
07 May 2021 08:34:05


 


We are extremely well over due for some warm hot weather that we haven't seen one this Spring and more like Icelandic climate here where temps stuck at single digits to low teens rain or shine.  Models need to realized we are now heading to summer month soon so must start giving us warm hot charts eventually and well much sooner than later.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 



I have managed 21 c back in the last day of March, though. 


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ozone_aurora
07 May 2021 09:54:08




I have managed 21 c back in the last day of March, though. 


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Me too! 

Gooner
07 May 2021 09:55:53




I have managed 21 c back in the last day of March, though. 


Originally Posted by: idj20 


I think we got 23c , a couple of lovely days and ended on the Thursday 


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Downpour
07 May 2021 10:11:22


 


 


indeed the downgrades are starting in earnest this morning. WeatherPro now only gives 11mm for my location (was 16mm as recently as yesterday), with the rain clearing by lunchtime. I wonder how much further that will fall? 


Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


Now 6.9mm. The epic “copious rainfall” spell continues...


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moomin75
07 May 2021 10:29:49


 


 


Now 6.9mm. The epic “copious rainfall” spell continues...


Originally Posted by: Downpour 

You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.


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GezM
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07 May 2021 10:37:12


16-dayer showing the temps gradually improving over W Europe but even into week 2 still below average for the time of year. Wet for week 1 but dry in week 2, a change from previous forecasts


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Yes, the 8 to 16 day range has downgraded the warm up, even in eastern Europe. Looks like slow, erratic, uncertain progress through late spring with no hints of summer yet.  


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Sevendust
07 May 2021 10:38:59


You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Aah but most people live in the South East  (I'll get my coat) 

moomin75
07 May 2021 11:45:39


 


Aah but most people live in the South East  (I'll get my coat) 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Aha. Good point! 🤣🤣


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Downpour
07 May 2021 12:10:44


You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


Indeed it looks very wet over the hills of Wales where very few people live. In the populous SE, which is crying out for meaningful rain, not so much. My garden is a dustbowl again. I am hoping for 15mm as promised. Yet it now looks nearer a third of that. Downgraded yet again – when will we ever learn? 


Chingford
London E4
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Downpour
07 May 2021 12:13:42


 


Aah but most people live in the South East  (I'll get my coat) 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


 


It's true though – far more people live in SE of England than in Wales and Scotland combined. And for those millions of people, tomorrow's much-vaunted epic rainfest now looks like yet another downgrade. The rain is massively needed – but it's not looking like delivering at this juncture. 


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DEW
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08 May 2021 07:04:40

Jetstream running across the S of the UK, at first directly then as part of a loop. From Wed 12th it switches to a more S-ly track and continues there for a week, occasionally looping up and around the UK to support LP close to S England. Final frames show a more fragmented stream, but with one fragment or another affecting some part of the UK. Not good either for warmth or dryness.


16-dayer has gone back to being wet in the south at last for week 2, since yesterday's forecast.


GFS Current LP decays over Britain to Sat 15th, followed by a week of slack HP around the UK, centred mainly to N and E, before significant LP appears mid-Atlantic to pump up air from the S (esp into SE England). This does not by a long way match the jetstream model!


GEFS briefly warm , then cool for S England to Sat 15th but in NW nearer norm through this period, after which mean near norm but with increasingly large spread. Some rain appearing irregularly in most runs. 


ECM never develops the HP after Sat 15th and by Tue 18th is showing slack LP instead centred N Ireland


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Devonian
08 May 2021 07:18:55


You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Are you sure? How much rain have you measured this week?


Here we've seen 11mm today which is less than half what I'd (half) hoped we would see. The dry spell hangs on here, and all I expect this week is the odd light shower.

moomin75
08 May 2021 07:35:22


 


Are you sure? How much rain have you measured this week?


Here we've seen 11mm today which is less than half what I'd (half) hoped we would see. The dry spell hangs on here, and all I expect this week is the odd light shower.


Originally Posted by: Devonian 

Yes, I'm sure. It may have been very localised, but we had 12mm on Monday during that stormy system, and a further 10mm on Tuesday (mostly in one heavy/torrential shower admittedly).


Moving on to today, we have measured 11mm since 3.30am and it's still pouring, and so that's 30-plus mm so far this week and a lot more to come today.


 


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Downpour
08 May 2021 08:18:45


Yes, I'm sure. It may have been very localised, but we had 12mm on Monday during that stormy system, and a further 10mm on Tuesday (mostly in one heavy/torrential shower admittedly).


Moving on to today, we have measured 11mm since 3.30am and it's still pouring, and so that's 30-plus mm so far this week and a lot more to come today.


 


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


Rain band starting to clear out of the SE already. Dry by noon?


Chingford
London E4
147ft
Brian Gaze
08 May 2021 09:12:04

Recent Arpege forecasts were spot on for here. 10.4mm so far today. I put down the Evergreen yesterday on the basis of 11mm falling from this event.


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoforecasts/hourly-weather-forecast.aspx?loc=Berkhamsted


 


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