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Taylor1740
21 February 2022 09:31:10
Atlantic train looks relentless well into March on current output.
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overland
21 February 2022 10:47:21

Atlantic train looks relentless well into March on current output.

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


 


It does doesn't it! Looking at the GEFS there is an unusual level of agreement even relatively far out on the 0z. Its only the last few days where it turns into proper spaghetti. 


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idj20
21 February 2022 11:03:01


 


 


It does doesn't it! Looking at the GEFS there is an unusual level of agreement even relatively far out on the 0z. Its only the last few days where it turns into proper spaghetti. 


Originally Posted by: overland 



But hopefully with just about enough ridging of high pressure to our south to deflect most/the worst of it away from the southern portion of the UK.

That said, my completely snow-free meteorological Winter is now virtually nailed on.  


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ozone_aurora
21 February 2022 11:34:44

Am I correct in saying that most of the recent primary lows had their origin in southern US?

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22 February 2022 09:13:04

Hints of a something more spring-like as we head into early March. High pressure shows a tendency to nudge in from the south and give even northern areas a respite from the wet and windy weather for a period of time at least. Further south it is looking fairly dry and mild. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw temperatures into the low-mid teens for several days. 


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Russwirral
22 February 2022 09:26:02


Hints of a something more spring-like as we head into early March. High pressure shows a tendency to nudge in from the south and give even northern areas a respite from the wet and windy weather for a period of time at least. Further south it is looking fairly dry and mild. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw temperatures into the low-mid teens for several days. 


Originally Posted by: GezM 


 


Would probably be warmer than that, we had similar conditions a couple of years ago and 20*c was reached quite widely.  By early March we have the same strength sun as late September.  


We really could do with an early growing season with all the ground water about.


idj20
22 February 2022 12:13:53


Hints of a something more spring-like as we head into early March. High pressure shows a tendency to nudge in from the south and give even northern areas a respite from the wet and windy weather for a period of time at least. Further south it is looking fairly dry and mild. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw temperatures into the low-mid teens for several days. 


Originally Posted by: GezM 



And pleased to see most of that still being retained on the GFS 06z run. Starting to look more like a trend . . . and not a moment too soon.


Folkestone Harbour. 
idj20
22 February 2022 16:50:54

. . . And still there on the GFS 12z. Looking like picking up where it left off in January.

Unless ECM has other ideas. 


Folkestone Harbour. 
nsrobins
23 February 2022 10:55:32

Increasingly settled is now the signal going into March, with even a hint of an easterly influence emerging.


A dry and cool spell will be welcome to many I would think.


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Gusty
23 February 2022 11:31:50
Brian Gaze
23 February 2022 11:38:08

ECM control looking very cold.



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ballamar
23 February 2022 12:08:55
Perfect ‘if only it was’ output from GFS op run ! Will look forward to the perishing wind 3 degrees and sleet with any March easterly!!
tallyho_83
23 February 2022 12:47:23

Perfect ‘if only it was’ output from GFS op run ! Will look forward to the perishing wind 3 degrees and sleet with any March easterly!!

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


The SSW of the stratosphere could be setting us up for a cold and blocked end of March into April me thinks:


One model and one run +384z - but the PV will go eventually of course! Just shame we never had a SSW in winter.



 


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DPower
23 February 2022 13:17:00


Strong and consistent warming being modelled in the stratosphere Whether it turns out to be a final warming remains to be seen. The Berlin start charts also showing strong wave 1 and 2. Putting this altogether we could possibly see some eye popping wintry charts showing up the first few weeks of spring.
Typical I know but the first two, three weeks of March can still deliver laying snow even to low lying inland areas of England and Wales especially if accompanied by cloud cover.


Originally Posted by: DPower 


Looking like this warming and wave 2 working their way in to the nwp models as we move into spring as alluded to above a week ago. Of course nothing set in stone and unless we pull in some potent cold uppers, we may only be left with a tease of what could have been if it were a few weeks earlier. 


End of gfs 06z run gfs could be toying with final warming for the strat. Fingers crossed we see one potent wintry spell before spring warmth relieves us of the bore fest of the last three months.


And of course maybe a few flakes tomorrow to save this winter from being completely snowless. 

Saint Snow
23 February 2022 14:05:22

Interesting... 


 



 



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Gusty
23 February 2022 14:21:30

Its nearly over but not quite. Will winter 21/22 get an 11th hour reprieve ? 


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briggsy6
23 February 2022 16:37:29

No.


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idj20
23 February 2022 16:47:59


Its nearly over but not quite. Will winter 21/22 get an 11th hour reprieve ? 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 



Or a possible wintry start to meteorological spring 2022?    


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mulattokid
23 February 2022 17:37:36


Its nearly over but not quite. Will winter 21/22 get an 11th hour reprieve ? 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 

  Hope not!  Two cold springs in a row will be murderous for our wildlife....or what there is left of it.


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MRayner
24 February 2022 07:33:18

Nobody posting the about 240hr ecm easterly!!!  Is winter going to start in march !?


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Crepuscular Ray
24 February 2022 07:37:07
We had similar synoptics to that in March 1975, M, with snow showers from the NE in Yorkshire. I was 17!
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24 February 2022 07:43:28

Back taking a look round this morning:


Summary charts not shifting a great deal since the weekend; cold but above average for the time of year in NE Europe, milder but a little below average in SW Europe. Just a hint of the cold intensifying in week 2. Pptn in N Atlantic and along the coasts of W Scotland and Norway; fairly dry elsewhere and then in week 2 notably so in France & S England


Jet - mostly looping, N-wards W of Scotland, S-wards over Scandi; after a calm period around Thu 10th resumes well to the S of Uk with some bits left over near Iceland


GFS op - HP growing from SW and pushing cold air away E-wards, that HP settling at first over the near continent and then over UK 1035mb Wed 2nd with LPs brushing the NW coasts as they move to N Norway. HP collapses Wed 9th and the last of the LPs moves S from N Norway and throws out a trough to Spain Fri 11th with E-lies for UK while the HP resumes 1055mb Greenland [could have done with this scenario in January!]


GEFS - in the S cold at first, mild Tue 1st, mostly back to norm Sun 6th and predominantly below after that (op & control unquestionably cold); some rain in some runs now, then on and after Tue 1st. The N misses out on the mild spell (1st) but not as cold later on (though op & control are still in there); pptn in the NE much as in the S, wetter in the NW


ECM - rather like GFS but with accelerated development, the HP collapsing Fri 4th and E-lies present Sun 6th


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johncs2016
24 February 2022 08:15:30

We had similar synoptics to that in March 1975, M, with snow showers from the NE in Yorkshire. I was 17!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 


 


Winter weather and winter synoptics in March are not exactly what I really want to be seeing as I would much rather be getting on with spring when that time comes.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
David M Porter
24 February 2022 08:56:38


Nobody posting the about 240hr ecm easterly!!!  Is winter going to start in march !?


Originally Posted by: MRayner 


Wouldn't be the first time if it does. In a sense, that is what happened in 2013 as although there were a few coldish spells in January and February that year, the real cold came in March and IIRC it returned a lower CET than any of the three winter months that preceded it.


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Russwirral
24 February 2022 09:08:35
Big reversal in winds in most of the models FI this morning.

Bitterly cold easterlys pausing Springtime 😞
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