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Bertwhistle
13 July 2022 20:19:41


 


It's a given I think.


They'll have to make a decision tomorrow because level 4 is school closures I think. Parents will need a bit of notice.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


Arguably a mistake.


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CreweCold
13 July 2022 20:54:22


 


Arguably a mistake.


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Depends entirely on the risk appetite of councils. Not sure too many will want multiple examples of children passing out due to heat, not on their watch.



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Polar Low
13 July 2022 21:00:13

it’s not a council decision it’s a heads of the school to make a decision it depends on a lot of things like local conditions of each classrooms ie sunlight, ventilation, Ac etc


The school I lock up for have already closed at lunch time this week Mon Tuesday 


 


 



 


Depends entirely on the risk appetite of councils. Not sure too many will want multiple examples of children passing out due to heat, not on their watch.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 

CreweCold
13 July 2022 21:14:36


it’s not a council decision it’s a heads of the school to make a decision it depends on a lot of things like local conditions of each classrooms ie sunlight, ventilation, Ac etc


The school I lock up for have already closed at lunch time this week Mon Tuesday 


 


 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Surely it’ll be taken out of the school’s hands though if we go to a level 4, that’s my point.



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Rob K
13 July 2022 22:30:00

So, 46.3C in Portugal today.

https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1547283091416309763?s=21&t=RcoKTUfQkQVZ_m3epIEX-A

I had been sceptical of the maxes modelled for Central Portugal but it seems this was indeed more of a hotspot than Seville.

Similar temps tomorrow, and mid 40s for several days thereafter.

Monday is the day to watch for Western France. Could hit 45C. Overall not as intense a heatwave as the models were showing a week ago when it was due to be a more zonal pattern, but intense nonetheless.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


That tenperature wasn’t anywhere on the synop list but I imagine only a selection of the official stations are on there. The highest I’ve seen for Spain today is 45.2C but again somewhere may have gone higher. 


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wallaw
14 July 2022 04:18:21


 


Surely it’ll be taken out of the school’s hands though if we go to a level 4, that’s my point.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


it will be in my house that’s for sure. As a father with 2 still in secondary I will be keeping mine at home regardless. They need to be in shorts, with access to plenty of cold water, the school they attend will not change their policy on not allowing them water bottles in the class and will no doubt insist on them wearing their blazers, so I’ll be keeping them home. it’s games week anyway


 


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Col
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14 July 2022 04:30:20


 


it will be in my house that’s for sure. As a father with 2 still in secondary I will be keeping mine at home regardless. They need to be in shorts, with access to plenty of cold water, the school they attend will not change their policy on not allowing them water bottles in the class and will no doubt insist on them wearing their blazers, so I’ll be keeping them home. it’s games week anyway


 


Originally Posted by: wallaw 


Have we had the story yet about the school that won't allow the boys to wear shorts in hot weather, so they turn up wearing skirts?


Col
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Retron
14 July 2022 04:44:37


Have we had the story yet about the school that won't allow the boys to wear shorts in hot weather, so they turn up wearing skirts?


Originally Posted by: Col 


https://premium.kentonline.co.uk/sittingbourne/news/pupil-punished-for-wearing-shorts-during-heatwave-270168/


 


Leysdown, north Kent
CreweCold
14 July 2022 04:57:44

40c showing on the GFS.

Quite simply the Metoffice needs to update the warning to red today. This is serious.


People on the comment section of things like the BBC are not taking this seriously at all. Mocking the warnings etc, talking about tanning in the garden. Anyone who goes out to tan in 40c will quickly find themselves scurrying back inside!



Crewe, Cheshire
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Heavy Weather 2013
14 July 2022 04:59:04


Darren how are things on the island. The news mentioned yesterday you’ve not had water!!


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14 July 2022 05:09:43


I knew it had to be there. All we need now are the stories about pigs getting sunburn and the polar bears at London zoo being given ice lollies to cool down.


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CreweCold
14 July 2022 05:13:27
My advice would be to stock up on ice, ice lollies, water and other chilled goods on Friday and Saturday. Come Monday supermarket fridges will either be empty because of excess demand or because they’ve broken down.

The refrigeration in my place has packed up at 32c before so 38c will almost certainly do it in.

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14 July 2022 05:13:31


40c showing on the GFS.

Quite simply the Metoffice needs to update the warning to red today. This is serious.


People on the comment section of things like the BBC are not taking this seriously at all. Mocking the warnings etc, talking about tanning in the garden. Anyone who goes out to tan in 40c will quickly find themselves scurrying back inside!


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


If people are mocking the warnings then it's probably because there are so many of them being bandied around these days, like yellow warnings for wind for what is really just a rather windy day, that when something potentially very dangerous turns up, they aren't taken seriously.


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CreweCold
14 July 2022 05:15:46


 


If people are mocking the warnings then it's probably because there are so many of them being bandied around these days, like yellow warnings for wind for what is really just a rather windy day, that when something potentially very dangerous turns up, they aren't taken seriously.


Originally Posted by: Col 


Thousands died in 2003 because of the heat. This looks to be a notch worse. The message really needs drilling home IMO.



Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Heavy Weather 2013
14 July 2022 05:22:34
Let me be clear. 38-40C is crazy dangerous, more so for anyone living outside of London. I’ve experienced this heat, and heatstroke is so unpleasant.

Plenty of people in this country will think great hot day…party.
Mark
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wallaw
14 July 2022 05:23:18


 


If people are mocking the warnings then it's probably because there are so many of them being bandied around these days, like yellow warnings for wind for what is really just a rather windy day, that when something potentially very dangerous turns up, they aren't taken seriously.


Originally Posted by: Col 


were people mocking the warnings? I’ve read a couple of 70 somethings with the usual ‘not in my day’ tripe, but nothing from any serious commentator suggesting there was nothing to see here?


anyway, thankfully the extreme heat looks to be relatively short lived


 


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

CreweCold
14 July 2022 05:24:01

Let me be clear. 38-40C is crazy dangerous, more so for anyone living outside of London. I’ve experienced this heat, and heatstroke is so unpleasant.

Plenty of people in this country will think great hot day…party.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


It is dangerous. I’m bemused by how flippant some people are about it. I can only assume they have air conditioned houses and don’t have to go to work…unlike me.


I can assure you that the extent of heat mitigation in my place of work will be a Calippo and a bottle of water.



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Retron
14 July 2022 05:33:05


Darren how are things on the island. The news mentioned yesterday you’ve not had water!!


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Still no water, although the fire brigade have run a hosepipe to the island to help things fill up faster now the second leak has been fixed... it caused utter chaos as they closed the dual carriageway bridge. That meant ten thousand or so people coming home via this...


 



Not my photo, but it took an hour to drive from a certain school in Sittingbourne to the bridge. An hour to drive 4 miles, and that was before the queues really kicked in!


I filled up six 2-litre bottles at work yesterday, so at least I could flush the toilet this morning!


The school has reminded staff from the island (a good quarter or so come from there) that they can use school showers if needs be.


All I can say is thank goodness this all happened when it was "only" in the high 20s. If this happened next Monday/Tuesday instead there would have been all hell to pay.


EDIT: And the water's now back on. My goodness, I've never been so relieved to hear a toilet cistern filling!


 


Leysdown, north Kent
Tim A
14 July 2022 06:10:59
Met Office automated are creeping up. 38c for Heathrow on Tuesday now.
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14 July 2022 06:22:19

Met Office automated are creeping up. 38c for Heathrow on Tuesday now.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 


Just seen TV Breakfast forecast which showed 36C for London. Although Matt Taylor did say it was a potentially record breaking heatwave.


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Rob K
14 July 2022 07:43:39
iPhone app was showing 37C for London on Tuesday earlier but it has now ticked down to 36C for both Mo day and Tuesday. Surely still the hottest 48 hour period on record.
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lanky
14 July 2022 07:49:21

iPhone app was showing 37C for London on Tuesday earlier but it has now ticked down to 36C for both Mo day and Tuesday. Surely still the hottest 48 hour period on record.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


9-10 Aug 2003 was 36, 38 so it woudl be a close call


Martin
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14 July 2022 08:02:38

Good ol' Weatheronline (my optimistic forecast of choice) showing 41C for London on Monday.


AS for today, it looks beautiful: fresh morning, clear sky, strong sunshine, a cool breeze. I am going flat out airing and chilling the house in the next 3 days. We have a window of opportunity with coolish nights to get the indoor temperature down close to 20C and then shut up shop and hunker down from Sunday onwards.


After the heatwave can we have 2 months of today's weather?


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
andy-manc
14 July 2022 08:15:39

Obviously a lot of the talk and excitement is around the national record but can anyone tell me what are the chances of local records being broken further north? I think we would be looking for over 34C around Manchester. I'm not a chart reader so can only go off the forecasts and right now both BBC and Met Office are going for a max of 33C on Tuesday

Gusty
14 July 2022 08:21:22


Good ol' Weatheronline (my optimistic forecast of choice) showing 41C for London on Monday.


AS for today, it looks beautiful: fresh morning, clear sky, strong sunshine, a cool breeze. I am going flat out airing and chilling the house in the next 3 days. We have a window of opportunity with coolish nights to get the indoor temperature down close to 20C and then shut up shop and hunker down from Sunday onwards.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


I did that yesterday evening when the light 19c easterly kicked in. By the time we went to bed to hallway was down to 21.9c and the house between 22-22.5c. By this morning its 24c all over the house once again.


The internal fabric and ambient temperature is rising.


Its just a shame we can't retain this internal heat all through the winter months...we would save a fortune.


 


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