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Tim A
14 July 2022 08:33:12


Obviously a lot of the talk and excitement is around the national record but can anyone tell me what are the chances of local records being broken further north? I think we would be looking for over 34C around Manchester. I'm not a chart reader so can only go off the forecasts and right now both BBC and Met Office are going for a max of 33C on Tuesday


Originally Posted by: andy-manc 


Yes I think they will be broken quite easily going by todays output. 


 


Rob K shared this link yesterday which shows the 2019 heatwave temps, many of those figures on the maps are records Microsoft Word - 2019_007_july_heatwave.docx (metoffice.gov.uk)


However Manchester and Leeds can never officially break their records as there are no longer weather stations there. They would have done in 2019 i think had there been weather stations there.   Somewhere just north of Manchester got 33.9c in 2019, and Bingley at 267m to the west of Leeds got 33.5c, so you would assume 35c has already been broken in the UHI's themselves.  Could be 36-38c Tuesday perhaps. 


Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
Heavy Weather 2013
14 July 2022 08:38:15
Rob K think you need to dust down the time reference points for last three record attempts for historic heat watch.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
The Beast from the East
14 July 2022 08:41:20



The refrigeration in my place has packed up at 32c before so 38c will almost certainly do it in.

Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


Did it start working again when the weather cooled down, or did you have to get it repaired?


 


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The Beast from the East
14 July 2022 08:44:29


 


Still no water, although the fire brigade have run a hosepipe to the island to help things fill up faster now the second leak has been fixed... it caused utter chaos as they closed the dual carriageway bridge. That meant ten thousand or so people coming home via this...


 



Not my photo, but it took an hour to drive from a certain school in Sittingbourne to the bridge. An hour to drive 4 miles, and that was before the queues really kicked in!


I filled up six 2-litre bottles at work yesterday, so at least I could flush the toilet this morning!


The school has reminded staff from the island (a good quarter or so come from there) that they can use school showers if needs be.


All I can say is thank goodness this all happened when it was "only" in the high 20s. If this happened next Monday/Tuesday instead there would have been all hell to pay.


EDIT: And the water's now back on. My goodness, I've never been so relieved to hear a toilet cistern filling!


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Are people's domestic underground pipework getting damaged by the dry ground, or it just the bigger mains. 


I remember during 2018 freeze, there were burst pipes in you area 


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Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
westv
14 July 2022 08:48:56


 


However Manchester and Leeds can never officially break their records as there are no longer weather stations there. 


Originally Posted by: Tim A 


Why on earth not?!


At least it will be mild!
moomin75
14 July 2022 08:49:11
So, we have Beast from the East and Pest from the West.
What are we going to call this plume?

I reckon "Drouth from the South"

Drouth being a derivative of drought.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Gavin D
14 July 2022 08:56:08

The met office says the chances of hitting 40c are less than 10%

johncs2016
14 July 2022 09:08:51

Despite the appearance of some really concerning charts on the latest model output, the BBC/Meteogroup is forecasting a temperature of only 29° down in Hawick on Tuesday.


However, even that is hotter than what it was at any time when I was down there last year (the highest temperature back then was only 27°C with even that, feeling more than hot enough as it is).


Furthermore, the Met Office on its own website is still  forecasting a maximum temperature of 30°C in Hawick on Tuesday and what is even more scary is that my phone app is now forecasting a temperature of 32°C on that same day in that same location.


As time goes on, the model output charts just keep getting even more scary and as that is happening, those temperature forecasts just keep on going up.


This has to be seen as very concerning indeed not just in terms of the potential impacts of this upcoming heatwave, but also in terms of our entire future on this planet given the absolutely shocking regularity with which these high temperature records always seem to be broken these days.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Joe Bloggs
14 July 2022 09:19:55

iPhone app was showing 37C for London on Tuesday earlier but it has now ticked down to 36C for both Mo day and Tuesday. Surely still the hottest 48 hour period on record.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


iPhone app is now showing 34C on Monday and 37C on Tuesday in Manchester. 


Absolutely historical to see this kind of data flying around, even if it doesn’t actually verify. 

UserPostedImage


 



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

soperman
14 July 2022 09:20:05

No heatwave down here.


Lovely and warm today with stiff breeze from NE and hopefully warm and sunny for the next few days.


The air feels unusually clear and not muggy at all which may change over the next few days.


We could reach 25/26 degrees on Monday


Of note is the moderate to rough seas which are expected to continue until Monday so RNLI could be busy this weekend!


Visiting my daughter in Gent next week - that will feel very different!


 

Rob K
14 July 2022 09:21:44


The met office says the chances of hitting 40c are less than 10%


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I bet Leconfield will be showing 40C 


 


Just had a look at the overnight temperatures in Spain. The minimum in Madrid was 27.4C. Scorchio!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Charmhills
14 July 2022 09:47:50

Fresher here which is nice.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
james
14 July 2022 10:01:11

I'm polishing off my camera to take more photos of Cambridge University Botanic Garden weather station, which is just around the corner from me. It would be quite something to set the record twice in a row. Back in 2019 there was quite a bit of bare soil around it, not sure if the plantings have changed this year.

fairweather
14 July 2022 10:24:38


I'm polishing off my camera to take more photos of Cambridge University Botanic Garden weather station, which is just around the corner from me. It would be quite something to set the record twice in a row. Back in 2019 there was quite a bit of bare soil around it, not sure if the plantings have changed this year.


Originally Posted by: james 


Yes, it was nice to be just a few hundred metres from where the record was set that day. Not so nice to have chosen a two day away break in Cambridge in a hotel with no air conditioning with my wife who basically gets ill at temperatures over 23C !


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Matty H
14 July 2022 10:25:08

Weather apps starting to spit out 37s and 38s for my area now


Bertwhistle
14 July 2022 10:39:14

On the GFES 06 hrs, whilst there are only 5 Ps showing 40 degrees over my location at 6pm on Monday, the mean of all the outcomes is 36.


I know that is>100 hrs away but it represents quite some consistency in the 30 possibilities and I've never seen numbers like it.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.
Retire while you can still press the 'retire now' button.
Rob K
14 July 2022 10:42:06
https://www.aemet.es/en/eltiempo/observacion/ultimosdatos?k=&w=2&datos=det&x=d07&f= 

45.7C was the highest reading, just 1.7C off the record. Today could be in with a chance of breaking the national record.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Gavin D
14 July 2022 11:06:37


Kit Malthouse is to chair a meeting of the government's Cobra civil contingencies committee on the heatwave
Gavin D
14 July 2022 11:10:10

40% chance that the record for the highest minimum temperature could be broken next week - Met office


 


23.9c is the record

Bolty
14 July 2022 11:16:37

Met Office have 34°C here for Tuesday. Off of past experiences, you can usually add a degree or two to that, so 35°C maybe even 36°C? Pretty extraordinary for rural Northern England!


A minimum of 23°C for Monday night too!


Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
tallyho_83
14 July 2022 11:17:37

Never thought I would see myself posting this in mid summer but from a weather entusiast perspective it's quite exciting actually - same for when we get a cold and snowy spell from an easterly but more worrying given that many households don't have air con! My partner is Romanian and use to this heat but even for her this will be too hot. I for one am not looking forward to these dizzy highs and overnight lows of +25c - as if the past week hasn't been hot enough:


 


15:00 temperature on Monday 18th: +40c in London



If anything it could be hotter and these temperatures have been upgraded too!



Tuesday 19th at 09:00am


People waking up to temperatures already in the mid 30'sC:



Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


tallyho_83
14 July 2022 11:22:12
As Glenn Frey would say:

"The Heat is On!"


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Heavy Weather 2013
14 July 2022 11:22:33

I don’t know why John Hammond even try’s with these people.

https://twitter.com/gbnews/status/1547535837272883200?s=21&t=-ooCiZgN0EfpMTaSL6BRtw

Look at the comments in the thread, more nut jobs who refuse to believe experts and who harp back that good old days.


A lot of these people will carry on like anymore normal day and then probably end up in hospital.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
redmoons
14 July 2022 11:23:46
Does anyone know what the highest minimum temperature is? Is it still 23.9C on 3rd August 1990 in Brighton?
Andrew,
Watford
ASL 35m
http://weather.andrewlalchan.co.uk 





Gavin D
14 July 2022 11:25:11

Does anyone know what the highest minimum temperature is? Is it still 23.9C on 3rd August 1990 in Brighton?

Originally Posted by: redmoons 


 


Yes. Still 23.9c.

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