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Saint Snow
18 July 2022 18:11:58


 


How exactly has the "nanny state" interfered in your day today?


I don't understand this mentality, as if public warnings like "drink water and don't sit in the sun all day like an idiot" are somehow hampering your enjoyment? You are still welcome to get heat stroke if you like, it hasn't been outlawed 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


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Jason H
18 July 2022 18:14:03


 


How exactly has the "nanny state" interfered in your day today?


I don't understand this mentality, as if public warnings like "drink water and don't sit in the sun all day like an idiot" are somehow hampering your enjoyment? You are still welcome to get heat stroke if you like, it hasn't been outlawed 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


There's no denying we live in a nanny state compared to 1976. Common sense prevails to drink lots of water, stay in the shade, shut all windows and doors during the day. Keep the sun out. 1976 was a long period of hot, dry weather. This current 2 day blast whilst impressive in temperature cannot be compared like for like. The low humidity today was a godsend. I quite enjoyed my 30 minute stroll at lunchtime. Proper Mediterranean heat.

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18 July 2022 18:14:16


 


 No 76 was far more laid back, no nanny state interference 


Originally Posted by: bledur 


In 1976 the whole apparatus of government spent the summer in conniptions, advising people to share a bath, put a brick in the loo, appointing a minister for drought, and the media spent the June heatwave frying eggs on car bonnets and interviewing talking heads about how they were coping with the - checks notes - 32-35C heat (poor dears, but the people back then were snowflakes)


The nanny state was as fit and active in 1976 as it’s ever been.


This year the government has done bugger all and the Met Office have, again checks notes, put out one of two sensibly worded warnings about drinking lots and closing the curtains. 

The only noise and overreaction this year is from GB news watching imperial weights and measures types who can’t bear the idea of their previous 1976 being upstaged. 

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Bugglesgate
18 July 2022 18:14:27


 


 No 76 was far more laid back, no nanny state interference 


Originally Posted by: bledur 


Errm.  Nanny state provided the stand pipes.   Nanny State provided  the Green Goddesses.  


 


..... and it provided Dennis Howell   .... Way to break a drought !
                                                             

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Rob K
18 July 2022 18:16:44


 


Do people need to be told to drink water and not sit out in the sun if it is too hot though? Instinct tends to kick in. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Have you ever seen British package holiday tourists? 

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18 July 2022 18:17:22


 


 I was just going to write that, and you have done it for me


 I think the warnings for 40plus c heat are needed as that is a dangerous heat which we in the u.k. have little experience of.


Originally Posted by: bledur 


Joking aside I think people saw the mass surplus mortality of the French 2003 heatwave and reflected. 30,000 excess deaths. 


Excess mortality was 20% in summer 1976.

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Justin W
18 July 2022 18:18:16


 


Joking aside I think people saw the mass surplus mortality of the French 2003 heatwave and reflected. 30,000 excess deaths. 


Excess mortality was 20% in summer 1976.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


What temp did the vineyard at PB get to, Tim?

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Rob K
18 July 2022 18:18:54




Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Looks like you were spot on for today Brian albeit we were towards the lower side of your range (barring any late discoveries!) 

I assume someone at the Met went and checked the Botanic Garden before tweeting....

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18 July 2022 18:21:11


 


What temp did the vineyard at PB get to, Tim?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


34C. Minimum RH of 21.9% which is my lowest ever too. 

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White Meadows
18 July 2022 18:21:50


 


There's no denying we live in a nanny state compared to 1976. Common sense prevails to drink lots of water, stay in the shade, shut all windows and doors during the day. Keep the sun out. 1976 was a long period of hot, dry weather. This current 2 day blast whilst impressive in temperature cannot be compared like for like. The low humidity today was a godsend. I quite enjoyed my 30 minute stroll at lunchtime. Proper Mediterranean heat.


Originally Posted by: Jason H 

Proper nanny state. 
In the headlines this afternoon “homeless people suffering blistered skin” ….translates to a few too many special brew, fell asleep and got sunburn. 

Chunky Pea
18 July 2022 18:24:30

Harmonie (got today spot on) has 41c max for Doncaster tomorrow. Would be great to see this epic town earning England's top temp of all time. 

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Taylor1740
18 July 2022 18:28:12


 


Yes, because in 1976 it was in the mid to high 30s for weeks, of course. Not.


Funny they never talk about 1995 or 2018, the latter summer being exactly as warm across the UK as 1976 and the former having the hottest August and being the driest on record. 


Because “the olden days” finished in 1980.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


I just checked the CET records out of interest and 76 is still the hottest in the CET series and 0.3c higher than 2018 was. And unless we get an exceptionally hot August I don't think we are beating 76 this year.


So in terms of overall Summer temperatures 1976 is still the Daddy.

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18 July 2022 18:29:11


Proper nanny state. 
In the headlines this afternoon “homeless people suffering blistered skin” ….translates to a few too many special brew, fell asleep and got sunburn. 


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


I’m not sure you understand what a nanny state is. Or is the state now the headline writers of the tabloids?

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18 July 2022 18:31:02


 


I just checked the CET records out of interest and 76 is still the hottest in the CET series and 0.3c higher than 2018 was. And unless we get an exceptionally hot August I don't think we are beating 76 this year.


So in terms of overall Summer temperatures 1976 is still the Daddy.


Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


2018 is equal to 1976 for the UK. 76 was warmer in Central England. 

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Tom Rance
18 July 2022 18:32:27

Holding on at 35.6c at half 7 at night! That's impressive IMO.

Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
Tom Rance
18 July 2022 18:36:50

Not so much the Nanny State, but more the media hyping everything beyond belief.


Instead of 'Britain Basks in Glorious sunshine', we get 'Don't travel, stay at home' and 'Heat Apocalypse'. I have zero trust in the way the media reports these days - by media I refer to the BBC!!

Tom
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Tim A
18 July 2022 18:40:03
I used to think 25c was impressive as 19.30 at night, today it is 32.0c.
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Rob K
18 July 2022 18:41:47

Right, looks like all the synops are in so here's my list of max temps at or above 36C, as near as I can figure. (r) = rounded, (h) is max hourly figure, no day max reported. I'm sure I will have missed a few. A few of them are from the Met Office tweet giving the highest figures to 3pm.

Santon Downham 38.1C
Cambridge AP 38C (r)
Lakenheath 37.7C (h)
Cavendish 37.9C (to 3pm)
Cambridge NIAB 37.5C (to 3pm)
Kew Gardens 37.4C (to 3pm)
Wittering 37.3C
Mildenhall 37.3C
Northolt 37.3C
Marham 37.1C
Hawarden 37.1C
Heathrow 37.1C
St James's Park 37.1C
Brooms Barn 37.1C (h)
Stansted AP 37C (r)
Coningsby 36.9C
Coleshill 36.8C
Charlwood 36.8C
Monks Wood 37.3C (to 3pm)
Pershore 36.7C
Bedford 36.7C
Writtle 36.7C (h)
Woburn 36.7C (h)
Cranwell 36.6C
Wellesbourne 36.6C (h)
Church Lawford 36.3C
Tibenham Airfield 36.3C (h)
Nottingham Weather Centre 36.3C
Andrewsfield 36.2C
Sutton Bonington 36.2C (h)
Coton in the Elms 36.2C (h)
Nantwich Reaseheath 36.2C (h)
Benson 36.1C
Brize Norton 36.1C
Houghton Hall 36.1C (h)
High Beach 36.1C (h)
Scampton 36.0C
Waddington 36.0C
Doncaster AP 36C (r)
Humberside AP 36C (r)
Luton AP 36C (r)
Birmingham AP 36C (r)
East Midlands AP 36C (r)
Cranfield 36C (r)




And non-UK:


Jersey airport 37.8C

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Gooner
18 July 2022 18:44:10


Not so much the Nanny State, but more the media hyping everything beyond belief.


Instead of 'Britain Basks in Glorious sunshine', we get 'Don't travel, stay at home' and 'Heat Apocalypse'. I have zero trust in the way the media reports these days - by media I refer to the BBC!!


Originally Posted by: Tom Rance 


I'm afraid there were a lot of Armageddon posts on here but let's see what happens tomorrow 

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Essan
18 July 2022 18:44:48


 


There's no denying we live in a nanny state compared to 1976. Common sense prevails to drink lots of water, stay in the shade, shut all windows and doors during the day. Keep the sun out. 1976 was a long period of hot, dry weather. This current 2 day blast whilst impressive in temperature cannot be compared like for like. The low humidity today was a godsend. I quite enjoyed my 30 minute stroll at lunchtime. Proper Mediterranean heat.


Originally Posted by: Jason H 



Back in 1976 (when it wasnt nearly as hot) we still had a sense of personal responsibilty.  Most people were actually slightly more intelligent than a dead whelk.  And we had parents who gave us advise handed down from generations.   Rather than being rejected as ignorant Boomers wot kno nuthing.   Today, how would anyone know they need to drink more water unless someone tells them?   You forget, most people are thick as a brick these days cos it's all someone else's problem, someone else's fault 

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18 July 2022 18:47:13


 


Yes and 2003, I was speaking about the UK in general 


Today seamed a bit hotter then 2019 though it was half a degree lower going by max values. But it's hard to compare days when it's so close.


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

  It’s also hard to compare when you have official stations so few and far between. 

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Jiries
18 July 2022 18:50:07

Still waiting for the dry heat air and very clear skies but still lot of clouds around and very polluted skies.  When this will go away as it been outstay it welcome for 2 days now.  Best warmer weather was on Saturday under clear dry air and hotter feel factor than today.

Ally Pally Snowman
18 July 2022 18:51:17


Right, looks like all the synops are in so here's my list of max temps at or above 36C, as near as I can figure. (r) = rounded, (h) is max hourly figure, no day max reported. I'm sure I will have missed a few.

Santon Downham 38.1C
Cambridge AP 38C (r)
Lakenheath 37.7C (h)
Cavendish 37.7C (h)
Cambridge NIAB 37.4C (h)
Wittering 37.3C
Mildenhall 37.3C
Northolt 37.3C
Marham 37.1C
Hawarden 37.1C
Heathrow 37.1C
St James's Park 37.1C
Brooms Barn 37.1C (h)
Stansted AP 37C (r)
Coningsby 36.9C
Coleshill 36.8C
Charlwood 36.8C
Monks Wood 36.8C (h)
Pershore 36.7C
Bedford 36.7C
Writtle 36.7C (h)
Woburn 36.7C (h)
Cranwell 36.6C
Wellesbourne 36.6C (h)
Church Lawford 36.3C
Tibenham Airfield 36.3C (h)
Nottingham Weather Centre 36.3C
Andrewsfield 36.2C
Sutton Bonington 36.2C (h)
Coton in the Elms 36.2C (h)
Nantwich Reaseheath 36.2C (h)
Benson 36.1C
Brize Norton 36.1C
Houghton Hall 36.1C (h)
Scampton 36.0C
Waddington 36.0C
Doncaster AP 36C (r)
Humberside AP 36C (r)
Luton AP 36C (r)
Birmingham AP 36C (r)
East Midlands AP 36C (r)
Cranfield 36C (r)




And non-UK:


Jersey airport 37.8C


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Remarkable amount,  much more than 03 and 19. 


My thinking now about tmrw is probably 40c but only just

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noodle doodle
18 July 2022 18:52:36


 


Joking aside I think people saw the mass surplus mortality of the French 2003 heatwave and reflected. 30,000 excess deaths. 


Excess mortality was 20% in summer 1976.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Yes, but did they die of the heat or with the heat? It's just the flu, I mean, weather, etc etc Brexit-76 etc

Rob K
18 July 2022 18:54:22


Proper nanny state. 
In the headlines this afternoon “homeless people suffering blistered skin” ….translates to a few too many special brew, fell asleep and got sunburn. 


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


Are you suggesting that never happened in the 1970s? Because I might have news for you...

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