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Ally Pally Snowman
01 August 2022 06:02:36

76 on steroids this morning from GFS 0z. About a week of 100f next week . 


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01 August 2022 06:26:36


76 on steroids this morning from GFS 0z. About a week of 100f next week . 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


UK maxes from today:


28, 31, 32, 28, 25, 28, 30, 31, 36, 37, 37, 37, 38, 38, 33, 28


LOL


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
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01 August 2022 06:27:41
An obvious and extreme outlier on the GEFS, but for London there is virtually zero rain on the entire GEFS suite. Quite something.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Retron
01 August 2022 06:28:13


76 on steroids this morning from GFS 0z. About a week of 100f next week . 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


As someone who detests summer, that's about as bad an outlook as I could imagine. The only saving grace down here is that it involves an ENE'ly / NE'ly airflow, so the North Sea will take the edge off.


No sign of much interest in the EPS ensembles, though, but I remember last time they were slow to cotton on - GEFS led the way on that one.


Leysdown, north Kent
ballamar
01 August 2022 07:03:26
Imagine if that run came off - hosepipe bans everywhere and probably the hottest week on record. Got my fingers crossed 😂
Jiries
01 August 2022 07:07:53

Imagine if that run came off - hosepipe bans everywhere and probably the hottest week on record. Got my fingers crossed 😂

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Like August 2003 would be nice.  Must be a U-turn on this week cool down to 20C to now mid 20's.

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01 August 2022 07:13:20

WX summary continues to move the heat about; the only part of Europe below average temp  is the Norwegian coast. The cooling for Germany noted yesterday has been reduced and move further east, while France and Germany are now hot in week 1, and this heat crosses the Channel in week 2, pushing all the way up to N Scotland, and also crosses the Baltic for a heat wave in S Sweden. Rainin Scandinavia and W Russia week 1, fr area around the Channel. The dry area switches to C Europe week 2 with rain as before but additionally from the Atlantic down through Britain and into France (if true, the combination suggests impossibly humid)


Jet near Scotland for a couple of days, then not much until Mon 16th when a suggestion of a cut-off LP near Brittany (echoes of yesterday's GEM, posted by Beast)


GFS Op - Mid-Atlantic LP tomorrow pushing in some (humid?) SW-lies before brushing past Scotland while HP again builds from the SW 1030 mb Eire Fri 5th. For the following week it re-forms into the usual (for this summer) ridge stretching NE to Norway but with continental LP always threatening the S. Atlantic LP arises on Sat 13th and takes a tour round S Britain before re-grouping 1000mb Scotland Wed 17th


GEFS - warm Fri 5th and again for a long period either side of Fri 12th (though the Op which has been exciting people is a monstrously hot outlier up to 12 C above norm; the mean is a more modest 5C above), Despite mention of LP above and the WX chart, no rain for the S in the next fortnight and not a great deal for Scotland either.


ECM - slower to re-instate the HP (Sun 7th rather than Fri 5th) and by Thu 11th the HP is retreating quite quickly SW though the forecast period doesn't go far enough ahead to show any LP on the Atlantic


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Chichester 12m asl
Retron
01 August 2022 07:20:42


WX summary continues to move the heat about; the only part of Europe below average temp  is the Norwegian coast. The cooling for Germany noted yesterday has been reduced and move further east, while France and Germany are now hot in week 1, and this heat crosses the Channel in week 2, pushing all the way up to N Scotland,


Originally Posted by: DEW 


http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.png


Scarily, that has a 26C mean isotherm over England in week two. I've been watching these since the turn of the millennium and I've never seen the like - there was a tiny bit of 24C in the last heatwave at one point, but nothing like that 26C.


 


Leysdown, north Kent
TimS
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01 August 2022 07:28:42


 


http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.png


Scarily, that has a 26C mean isotherm over England in week two. I've been watching these since the turn of the millennium and I've never seen the like - there was a tiny bit of 24C in the last heatwave at one point, but nothing like that 26C.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


the scale used to be in 5C increments and I remember the 25C isotherm over the UK briefly during the 2003 heatwave. 


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
moomin75
01 August 2022 07:41:41

An obvious and extreme outlier on the GEFS, but for London there is virtually zero rain on the entire GEFS suite. Quite something.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

It's not an extreme outlier, in fact one or two runs go higher again.


After leading the way last time, you wouldn't back against GFS at the moment.


ECM is much, much cooler still.


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DEW
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01 August 2022 07:47:09


 


http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.png


Scarily, that has a 26C mean isotherm over England in week two. I've been watching these since the turn of the millennium and I've never seen the like - there was a tiny bit of 24C in the last heatwave at one point, but nothing like that 26C.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


It's in the charts, so worth watching. But WX is AFAIK based on the Op run which as noted above is a spectacularly hot outlier amongst the ens members


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Chichester 12m asl
briggsy6
01 August 2022 10:15:32

Talk of heavy tropical downpours for southern England during the first half of the week, but BBC Teletext 5 dayer has mainly dry with just the odd isolated shower. Who has it right? Time will tell.


Location: Uxbridge
The Beast from the East
01 August 2022 10:22:18

06z not as hot as 00z obviously, but general pattern is similar


 


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The Beast from the East
01 August 2022 10:23:46


Talk of heavy tropical downpours for southern England during the first half of the week, but BBC Teletext 5 dayer has mainly dry with just the odd isolated shower. Who has it right? Time will tell.


Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


We had one yesterday evening which was much needed for the grass, but I doubt any moisture got down very far below the surface


Hopefully get something today, but that could be our lot for a while


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The Beast from the East
01 August 2022 10:35:35

Not a patch on the 00z but still very hot period showing up again 



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TimS
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01 August 2022 13:36:02
Worth keeping a 30C tally, a bit like snow row in winter. Or maybe a 30 and 35C tally

GFS 00z: 11 days >30, 6 >35

06z: 4 days >30
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
doctormog
01 August 2022 14:41:08


 


Replying to your post it depend on the area and even I don't have a recorder but in here well below 100 hours, most during the coming days to 19th.  I hope August bring bac to over 200 again that you expect in summer.


Seeing the charts myself it great news that the HP go a bit north as was the norm in the 80's when HP move in that way and then sink slowly over us, slowly again to EU that give us a heatwave, this set-up give us up to 2 weeks sunny and settled weather before a bang in the past.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


See here: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2022/driest-july-in-england-since-1935 


In fact even more relevant would be this one: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/anomacts/2022/7/2022_7_Sunshine_Actual.gif 


Nick Gilly
01 August 2022 18:21:56
GFS 12z:

>30C 11 days
>35C 6 days

Back to the 00z furnace.
The Beast from the East
01 August 2022 18:32:54

GFS control gets very close to the extreme heat pool again



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The Beast from the East
01 August 2022 18:34:09

UKMO looks a hot run even in the shorter term. Pulling in some heat for sunday


Modele UKMO - Carte prévisions


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cultman1
01 August 2022 18:36:29
Is this really going to happen ? there are murmours in the press about another potential heatwave from next week. Are the models really on to something?
The Beast from the East
01 August 2022 18:42:24

Is this really going to happen ? there are murmours in the press about another potential heatwave from next week. Are the models really on to something?

Originally Posted by: cultman1 


Looks like it, though I doubt we will reach 40 again, probably 36 at best


ECM doesnt have such a good heat pool to tap into


 


 


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TimS
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01 August 2022 18:56:12

GFS 12z:

>30C 11 days
>35C 6 days

Back to the 00z furnace.

Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


The one I’m looking at has 5 days of 30C and none above 35. Am I looking at the wrong run?


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Rob K
01 August 2022 18:59:26
I hope the GFS 12Z isn't anywhere near correct in FI. A proper soaker for my week's holiday!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Jiries
01 August 2022 19:06:17


Thanks for the link Doc, surprised how very high sun hours where I am between orange and white.  Might be the newer sun recorder now pick up brightness levels even no sun disk showing which I see here on some days.  My old recorder I set only to collect actual sunlight and no recording when bright cloudy weather.


Today hit 10 hours of sunshine and not seen very blue skies since 19th July.  Looking good from the latest models.

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