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Brian Gaze
30 July 2022 12:54:06

Dry? Above average temperatures? At least in the south?



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TimS
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30 July 2022 13:07:41


Dry? Above average temperatures? At least in the south?



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes, yes and yes.


Always nice when an op run shows very pleasant weather despite being a cold outlier.


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doctormog
30 July 2022 13:12:13
Actually it looks drier and warmer than average, albeit with a little rain in places at times, for most places away from parts of the NW.
Jiries
30 July 2022 13:42:39

Actually it looks drier and warmer than average, albeit with a little rain in places at times, for most places away from parts of the NW.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Replying to your post it depend on the area and even I don't have a recorder but in here well below 100 hours, most during the coming days to 19th.  I hope August bring bac to over 200 again that you expect in summer.


Seeing the charts myself it great news that the HP go a bit north as was the norm in the 80's when HP move in that way and then sink slowly over us, slowly again to EU that give us a heatwave, this set-up give us up to 2 weeks sunny and settled weather before a bang in the past.

doctormog
30 July 2022 14:06:26


 


Replying to your post it depend on the area and even I don't have a recorder but in here well below 100 hours, most during the coming days to 19th.  I hope August bring bac to over 200 again that you expect in summer.


Seeing the charts myself it great news that the HP go a bit north as was the norm in the 80's when HP move in that way and then sink slowly over us, slowly again to EU that give us a heatwave, this set-up give us up to 2 weeks sunny and settled weather before a bang in the past.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Well below 100 hours would be remarkable give the duration statistics in other parts of England even the Midlands so far this month. The only stations I can see that are well below 100 hours are in NW Scotland. 


Jiries
30 July 2022 14:51:15


 


Well below 100 hours would be remarkable give the duration statistics in other parts of England even the Midlands so far this month. The only stations I can see that are well below 100 hours are in NW Scotland. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


It is and it a record dullest month, most days os 0-30mins, there no early or late sunshine like June did which was well over 100 but this month none at all.   Did not see the sun rise or set since 19th and no sun today only brightness that won't record it.

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30 July 2022 15:49:51


 


It is and it a record dullest month, most days os 0-30mins, there no early or late sunshine like June did which was well over 100 but this month none at all.   Did not see the sun rise or set since 19th and no sun today only brightness that won't record it.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Has richardabdn hacked your account J?


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Jiries
30 July 2022 18:50:06


 


Has richardabdn hacked your account J?


Originally Posted by: TimS 



If you see 12z early August looking sunnier as HP move to Scandi at last so that give us East to SE flow and many sunny days so should rack up to over 100 hrs by 2nd week of August here. Look very warm to hot at British summer temps of mid 20's to 30C there about.  Glad there no plume on this run as plume always deliver weeks of cloudy weather after it leaves.

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30 July 2022 21:09:28


 


Replying to your post it depend on the area and even I don't have a recorder but in here well below 100 hours, most during the coming days to 19th.  I hope August bring bac to over 200 again that you expect in summer.


Seeing the charts myself it great news that the HP go a bit north as was the norm in the 80's when HP move in that way and then sink slowly over us, slowly again to EU that give us a heatwave, this set-up give us up to 2 weeks sunny and settled weather before a bang in the past.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


I don't know whether you saw this as the final post in the last thread


Weather online gives total hours of sunshine at Heathrow as 212.2 for June and 204.6 for July with a day to go (link is so long it'll screw up the formatting here - Google <hours of sunshine London> and scroll down to <climate robot>) 


MetO blog says average sunshine for England for June 2022 was 220.9 hours, or 118 % of average, and similar % for other parts of the UK except Northern Ireland, well below average


 https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2022/07/01/june-extends-run-of-warm-months/


 It certainly feels like a good 200 hours here. Do you need to change your location from Galley Common to Mull or Londonderry? Warwickshire according to the MetO map has had close to average sunshine for June.


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Jiries
31 July 2022 05:26:40


 


I don't know whether you saw this as the final post in the last thread


Weather online gives total hours of sunshine at Heathrow as 212.2 for June and 204.6 for July with a day to go (link is so long it'll screw up the formatting here - Google <hours of sunshine London> and scroll down to <climate robot>) 


MetO blog says average sunshine for England for June 2022 was 220.9 hours, or 118 % of average, and similar % for other parts of the UK except Northern Ireland, well below average


 https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2022/07/01/june-extends-run-of-warm-months/


 It certainly feels like a good 200 hours here. Do you need to change your location from Galley Common to Mull or Londonderry? Warwickshire according to the MetO map has had close to average sunshine for June.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Yes it locked so cant reply there and I am in Nuneaton which have no official station but average temps is 22C while London 24C.  I assumed average sun hours is around 180 but this month was very low and only 2 days exceed 10 hrs rest 0 o 30 mins and very few reached 5 or less hrs.   Hard to believe but really very dullest month than last Jan totals.  August look likely a much better month so far from what I see and enable to see sun rise and set since 19th.

DEW
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31 July 2022 06:30:50

If you use the MetO detailed obs map (if you haven't got it bookmarked https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation, put in a location, scroll down and select detailed obs map) they have released this morning a new beta version for comment; there's a link to it from the existing map.


Much improved IMO with a wider field of view (most of Europe), a longer timescale (past as well as future) and help for the colour-blind like me with an 'accessible colours' option.


Sorry for the convoluted access but if I put in the link to the map I'm looking at, then from experience its length with all the geographical data of my location is longer than the formatting for this forum can cope with.


Edit - link incorrectly copied - use https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation/map 


 


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DEW
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31 July 2022 06:38:39


 


 


Yes it locked so cant reply there and I am in Nuneaton which have no official station but average temps is 22C while London 24C.  I assumed average sun hours is around 180 but this month was very low and only 2 days exceed 10 hrs rest 0 o 30 mins and very few reached 5 or less hrs.   Hard to believe but really very dullest month than last Jan totals.  August look likely a much better month so far from what I see and enable to see sun rise and set since 19th.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Difficult to believe that Nuneaton is so different to all the areas around it. Are the readings from your own weather station? Check its location and operation?


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Perthite1
31 July 2022 06:43:17

For something a bit different the models for here in Perth have a deep low pressure which is going to be slow moving over the next 3 days. We are expected to have 3 days of gales with gusts of around 60 mph with frequent heavy showers and thunderstorms. Quite unusual for us to have such a long sustained period of gales. 

DEW
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31 July 2022 07:18:03

WX summary temps show a slight cooling over N Europe over the next two weeks, most noticeable over Finland & N Scandinavia. However heat continues to push up through France and regains a foothold in S England in week 2, 'even' Scotland looking moderately warm. Rainfall predictions continue to vary; currently rain in Scotland and Scandinavia week 1, in E Europe week 2, with a much enlarged very dry area in week 2 covering Spain, France, all of Britain and across the N Sea.


GFS Op shows LP affecting mainly Scotland to Wed 3rd, moving away and replaced by HP ridging from Azores to N Sea, eventually centred over Britain 1030mb Tue 9th. Pressure then stays high (with a tendency for the centre to be located in Scotland) through to Tue 16th. The end-of-run LP noted yesterday has now been written out.


GEFS temps rising to warm Wed 3rd, dropping below norm for a couple of days Sat 6th, then progressively warmer through to Tue 16th. Very dry in the S, also in Scotland after a wet couple of days around the 3rd.


ECM resembles GFS Op


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johncs2016
31 July 2022 07:25:01


If you use the MetO detailed obs map (if you haven't got it bookmarked https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation, put in a location, scroll down and select detailed obs map) they have released this morning a new beta version for comment; there's a link to it from the existing map.


Much improved IMO with a wider field of view (most of Europe), a longer timescale (past as well as future) and help for the colour-blind like me with an 'accessible colours' option.


Sorry for the convoluted access but if I put in the link to the map I'm looking at, then from experience its length with all the geographical data of my location is longer than the formatting for this forum can cope with.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


I just tried that link, but it just leads to a 404 Page Not Found error.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
DEW
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31 July 2022 07:34:46


 


I just tried that link, but it just leads to a 404 Page Not Found error.


 


Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


Sorry, must have left off the 'map' when doing copy and paste


Try https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation/map


 


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johncs2016
31 July 2022 07:39:36


 


Sorry, must have left off the 'map' when doing copy and paste


Try https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation/map


 


Originally Posted by: DEW 


That link now works, so thanks for posting that.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Ally Pally Snowman
31 July 2022 07:45:10

High pressure all the way this morning.  Just variations on where it ends up. ECM cooler than the other models. GEM and GFS look hot.


 


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Jiries
31 July 2022 07:54:07


 


Difficult to believe that Nuneaton is so different to all the areas around it. Are the readings from your own weather station? Check its location and operation?


Originally Posted by: DEW 


No I dont have it here just max and min thermometer only used during interesting temperatures days.  I dont want to invest expensive station for few interesting events a year. If you cant believe how dull in here there nothing I can do about it. Jan stick more in my mind how sunnier than month.  August first half part look good from your daily post. 

The Beast from the East
31 July 2022 07:54:10

Hopefully GEM rather ECM, not if you have a garden of course



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Jiries
31 July 2022 08:12:20


High pressure all the way this morning.  Just variations on where it ends up. ECM cooler than the other models. GEM and GFS look hot.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Even ECM cooler but really great to see HP from SW to Scandi so that give prolonged sunny days set-up with temperatures you expect from this setup than 40C heat follow by prolonged cloudy weather.  It give a break for Ireland and Scotland to get some summery weather as well.

DEW
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31 July 2022 09:23:20


Hopefully GEM rather ECM, not if you have a garden of course



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I dunno - that LP off Brittany has a promising-looking trough to push into the S &SE where the rain is needed. But that's 10 days off


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sunny coast
31 July 2022 12:28:59


 


I don't know whether you saw this as the final post in the last thread


Weather online gives total hours of sunshine at Heathrow as 212.2 for June and 204.6 for July with a day to go (link is so long it'll screw up the formatting here - Google <hours of sunshine London> and scroll down to <climate robot>) 


MetO blog says average sunshine for England for June 2022 was 220.9 hours, or 118 % of average, and similar % for other parts of the UK except Northern Ireland, well below average


 https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2022/07/01/june-extends-run-of-warm-months/


 It certainly feels like a good 200 hours here. Do you need to change your location from Galley Common to Mull or Londonderry? Warwickshire according to the MetO map has had close to average sunshine for June.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Indeed local stations around Eastbourne reporting well over 200 hours this month 

tierradelfuego
31 July 2022 19:15:51
The GEFS 12z show what a crazy summer it is and has been, at least down here close to Reading.

Next to no rainfall forecast - no doubt a hosepipe ban coming. 2m temps in general way above average.

What really strikes home is the differential on the 850 to 2m - the 5th being the obvious candidate.

The 850 shows a temp of at least 5 or 6c lower than than the 30 year mean, the 2m is a max of 23c - not exactly cold or unsettled in anyone's books...
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