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Zubzero
30 October 2022 23:35:31
ballamar
31 October 2022 07:53:39


A sign of things to come 🥱 


https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=240&mode=1&map=1&type=0&archive=0


 


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


that is obviously favourite as it is the default pattern with the PV usually gaining strength as winter starts. But there are some hints it will not be so dominant with blocking getting a foothold at points. Will be more opportunities than recent for some decent cold scenarios. The high looks like shifting to allow some colder temps in the run up to December 

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31 October 2022 07:55:45

WX temp much as yesterday  anomalies for week 1 still above norm for Europe but beginning to decline, and in week 2 this trend continuing as cold air spreads across the north to Scandinavia. Still some mild weather in Biscay but although sea temps for the Med remain high, the countries bordering it are also cooling. Rain in week 1 for the Atlantic, heaviest to include all of Britain; in week 2 moving N-wards (S England dry) and adding a large patch over most of Russia (this patch closer to Ukraine than yesterday)


GFS Op has re-considered and now agrees with FAX in pushing a secondary depression across UK tomorrow Tue (FAX 998mb Channel) before the N Atlantic dominates; LP 975 mb passing Orkney Thu 3rd, and 985mb approaching Ireland Mon 7th before dying away. HP then pushing up from the S, at first fending off LP to NW but a full-on N-S ridge blocking the Atlantic Fri 11th but soon fading as deep LP 960mb Rockall with trough projected over Britain on Wed 16th. No sign of screaming N-lies which put i a brief appearance yesterday, whether affecting Britain or C Europe. 


ECM like GFS but with a tendency for the various passing LPs to leave a trough lingering in the N Sea


GEFS cooler to Sat 5th then mean temp back to norm until around Thu 10th with rain plentiful esp in S & W during this time. After the 10th there's too much disagreement between ens members for sensible comment - possibly milder and a bit drier with op & control really warm and rather dry.


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moomin75
31 October 2022 10:40:21
The GFS 6z goes pretty Scorchio again next week with a long southerly feed and temps approaching 20c.
Unbelievably showing that for around 10th November.
Incredible synoptics.
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ballamar
31 October 2022 10:59:40

The GFS 6z goes pretty Scorchio again next week with a long southerly feed and temps approaching 20c.
Unbelievably showing that for around 10th November.
Incredible synoptics.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


can you link to the 20c can’t see that one thanks

Ally Pally Snowman
31 October 2022 11:05:37


 


can you link to the 20c can’t see that one thanks


Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Both the 9th and 10th fairly widespread 18c. Would equal the date record.  


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=17&time=225&run=6&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3


 


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Tim A
31 October 2022 11:05:53
Seems to be lots of Southern Heights promoting warm weather this year.
In fact since it all went wrong on Boxing day last year!

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ballamar
31 October 2022 11:23:35


 


Both the 9th and 10th fairly widespread 18c. Would equal the date record.  


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=17&time=225&run=6&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


thanks couldn’t get into those - as Moomin said definitely chance of 20c

Charmhills
31 October 2022 11:27:44

Northern blocking showing up in deep fi!!



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moomin75
31 October 2022 11:46:00


 


can you link to the 20c can’t see that one thanks


Originally Posted by: ballamar 

"Approaching 20c" if the synoptics hold and sun shines, you wouldn't rule it out.


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ballamar
31 October 2022 11:50:34


"Approaching 20c" if the synoptics hold and sun shines, you wouldn't rule it out.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


indeed that 18c could easily turn into a 20c

Ally Pally Snowman
31 October 2022 11:56:49


 


thanks couldn’t get into those - as Moomin said definitely chance of 20c


Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Its yet another ridiculously warm run. A record warm year CET looks in the bag atm.


 


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moomin75
31 October 2022 11:57:41


 


indeed that 18c could easily turn into a 20c


Originally Posted by: ballamar 

On face value, extraordinary charts. But no need for central heating, so good in a way.


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ballamar
31 October 2022 12:22:32


On face value, extraordinary charts. But no need for central heating, so good in a way.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


yes great at the moment, signs later in November of changes for Europe, whether that happens or the warmth stays who knows. As we saw with Summer could repeat and keep UK in the warmer zone

Hungry Tiger
31 October 2022 16:03:48

The GFS 6z goes pretty Scorchio again next week with a long southerly feed and temps approaching 20c.
Unbelievably showing that for around 10th November.
Incredible synoptics.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I've gone for a CET in excess of 9.0C for this November.


It wouldn't surprise me.


 


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Nick Gilly
31 October 2022 17:23:01


 


I've gone for a CET in excess of 9.0C for this November.


It wouldn't surprise me.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


December 2015 had a CET of 9.7C, so I wouldn't be surprised if November 2022 had a CET >10C.

Taylor1740
31 October 2022 18:00:14


 


 


December 2015 had a CET of 9.7C, so I wouldn't be surprised if November 2022 had a CET >10C.


Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


Me neither, I think 11c+ is possible.


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moomin75
31 October 2022 18:16:56


 


Me neither, I think 11c+ is possible.


Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 

If we get an 11c November CET then we would be near guaranteed an 11c-plus CET for the year.


Has that ever been achieved?


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Ally Pally Snowman
31 October 2022 18:19:48


If we get an 11c November CET then we would be near guaranteed an 11c-plus CET for the year.


Has that ever been achieved?


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


No, the record is 10.9c something.  11c seems guaranteed this year unless we get a cold December which seems very unlikely. 


 


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Brian Gaze
31 October 2022 18:30:09

The Met Office CPF suggests an increased chance of colder than average conditions during the November, December and January period. We'll see, but in the medium term GFS 12z is pointing towards potentially record-breaking warmth.



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Justin W
31 October 2022 19:00:23


The Met Office CPF suggests an increased chance of colder than average conditions during the November, December and January period. We'll see, but in the medium term GFS 12z is pointing towards potentially record-breaking warmth.



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The older I get, the less I like cold weather. So long may this continue. It will at least help an awful lot of people continue to put food on the table.


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Jiries
31 October 2022 19:41:40


 


The older I get, the less I like cold weather. So long may this continue. It will at least help an awful lot of people continue to put food on the table.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


18C near Mid November is very welcome and save on heating costs, I am sure the energy companies are not happy as their expected high profits for November and this month October would be less than forecasted.  Government will still have to pay us £400 regardless if winter is all the way mild.  

Bolty
31 October 2022 19:46:27


If we get an 11c November CET then we would be near guaranteed an 11c-plus CET for the year.


Has that ever been achieved?


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I remember we were well above 11C during the middle stages of November 2015. The first half of that month really was extraordinarily mild, and it looked like we were set for a new record. What stopped it was a brief cold spell over the third weekend.


Of course that then paved way for the December, which was phenomenal.


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Whiteout
31 October 2022 20:03:27

Latest Met 3 month outlook makes for interesting reading 


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picturesareme
31 October 2022 20:15:03


Latest Met 3 month outlook makes for interesting reading 


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


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