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DEW
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11 March 2023 22:10:16

Strong winds of 55mph are forecast for Monday 13th For Peasedown St John most of the day.
It means no music rehearsal for me. I do not want to travel in strong winds. 

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 



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Andy Woodcock
11 March 2023 22:33:29
Don't mention snow shadows or holes, the Penrith area lay in one for over 12 hours on Thursday night, with just a dusting by the morning, meanwhile the Lake District was plastered with even the Cumbria West Coast snow covered.

All the result of the Pennine rain shadow which occurs in strong easterly winds, i have seen it several times before notably in late March 2013 when most of the UK was snowbound I actually cut my grass!

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johncs2016
12 March 2023 00:59:54

I'm Mancunian and I'm moaning because I want it to warm up! Snow, frost and low/mid single figure days in the middle of March is not for me.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 



I fully agree with that.

I have been saying for a while that I would rather be getting on with spring now, as all of this cold and at times, snowy weather is something which I would much rather have been seeing during the winter and not in the middle of March.

So far, I have to say as well that this month is turning out to be what February should have been like and what I would have been expecting then, especially as February turned out to be completely snowless and a very poor month in terms of any wintry weather.

That reminds me of many late summer/early periods in recent years when August has been poor (and sometimes, wet) only for September to then deliver that proper summer weather which we were missing in that August.

This is just exactly the polar opposite of that, and the winter equivalent of that.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Jiries
12 March 2023 07:59:52

I fully agree with that.

I have been saying for a while that I would rather be getting on with spring now, as all of this cold and at times, snowy weather is something which I would much rather have been seeing during the winter and not in the middle of March.

So far, I have to say as well that this month is turning out to be what February should have been like and what I would have been expecting then, especially as February turned out to be completely snowless and a very poor month in terms of any wintry weather.

That reminds me of many late summer/early periods in recent years when August has been poor (and sometimes, wet) only for September to then deliver that proper summer weather which we were missing in that August.

This is just exactly the polar opposite of that, and the winter equivalent of that.
 

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 



That part of the reason I stopped doing the weather data due to weather not adhere to a season.  I am strong season follower and now it March I expect some warm spring like weather to come at some point.  
DEW
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12 March 2023 08:02:34

That part of the reason I stopped doing the weather data due to weather not adhere to a season.  I am strong season follower and now it March I expect some warm spring like weather to come at some point.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



Like the next 2 days? not much sign of warmth after that.
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Tim A
12 March 2023 09:05:32
First half of March is definitely more wintry than Spring like , I prefer around March 21st to start looking for Spring and warmth. 

Maybe Spring is arriving, this tulip (presume an early flowering variety) is battling up this morning in the garden.    UserPostedImage

 
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johncs2016
12 March 2023 09:51:05

That part of the reason I stopped doing the weather data due to weather not adhere to a season.  I am strong season follower and now it March I expect some warm spring like weather to come at some point.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



What a ridiculous comment. 

To expect weather to adhere to a season that was devised by humans in a calendar devised by humans  is the modern day equivalent of expecting King Canute to turn back the tide. Nature will do what it does and to stop doing weather data doing because of this is.......🙄

Originally Posted by: Irlamite 



I agree with Kev's comment here (which I have quoted above). For me, I would be much happier if the weather did fully conform with the seasons as going by the actual calendar, but I fully accept that this is generally not going to be the case.

There are two extreme events which point out very well, just how far the weather can stray from what we would expect at any time of the year. First of all, it has to be remember that snow was actually recorded in the UK back in June 1975 in what was actually the start of that year's meteorological summer then, we had the temperatures climb to more than 20°C in the south of England towards the end of the winter of 2018-2019.

If that doesn't tell you how far our weather can stray from what we would expect at any time of the year, nothing will. Although that isn't exactly what I would want to be seeing, that has nothing to do with the weather types which I find "interesting" or boring, so unseasonal weather isn't going to stop me from recording that because in my books, weather which I find to be "interesting" isn't necessarily the same weather which I actually want to be seeing.

If anything, I would probably say that unseasonal weather is actually more interesting that the type of weather which I would expect due to its unseasonal aspect of it, so I would still be more than happy to record that. What would drive me away from recording the weather is if the weather becomes more uninteresting and boring over long periods of time. By that, I'm talking about long periods of time when it virtually never rains with daily rainfall totals are constantly either 0.0 mm or a very small fraction of 1 mm.

In addition to that, there are also hardly any diurnal temperature variations from day to day during such a spell of weather with our weather being driven more or less solely by how much cloud or sunshine that there is. Such spells of weather just become more boring and monotonous over time, the longer that they drag on to the point where I then get fed up with reporting the same type of stuff all the time.

That is true, regardless of the time of year and February along with most of the winter was very much, in that sort of scenario to the point when I actually came very close to quitting from this forum as a result, simply because my overall interest in weather was waning quite a lot because of that.

Luckily, our most recent weather though unseasonal, hasn't been as boring or uninteresting. However, I am noticing that there is an overall trend which is taking place over time for the weather to become more boring and uninteresting and this is also partly shown by this season's complete absence of storms named under our current joint UK/Ireland/Netherlands system for only the first time since that system first started back in 2015.
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Jiries
12 March 2023 16:16:37

Like the next 2 days? not much sign of warmth after that.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Yes only 2 days but this country need to rely on warm based from the sunshine this time of the year, not the mild wet type that only deliver 10-12C maxes but to get to 15-18C that normally te warmest in March required by sunshine, not rain, if rain then temps expected to be cold side.  The rain water temps does match the sea temps of the year, hence why rain water temps is milder in Autumn and early winter due to sea temps still warm.  Now is on the coldest side that why any rain had been cold rain that last to May for any unsettled weather.
Tim A
14 March 2023 11:56:08
Ready for Spring now after today, doesn't look like there is anything cold on the horizon after today.

Anything that looks borderline for snow at a few days away (such as Thursday) ends up getting watered down.   Snow sure situations at a few days out seem to be borderline for low ground. Not really sure why.   Not just going by wildly inaccurate snow depth forecasts but also Met Office warnings and text seems to get less wintry nearer the time. 

This winter season has been greatly saved by the snowfall last week, taking it here from the joint worst winter in my records to somewhere more respectable with 23cm cumulative snowfall (21cm + 2cm) and 4 days with snow cover and a first snow day for my son in his first year at school.  For me, can only remember one snow day in primary school (95) and then some late openings and early finishes in Secondary school (particularly 00/01).  Not sure about 1991 though as there was so much snow but don't remember it. 


 


 
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Bolty
15 March 2023 17:31:26
Another nasty day today, after a meteorologically interesting one yesterday. I've not seen the sun all day, and it's been stuck in the mid-single figures. Truly vile weather.

At least after today we lose a lot of the Arctic influence (for the time being anyway). Yes, it still looks unsettled, but at least the temperatures will be milder.
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richardabdn
18 March 2023 10:43:30
Yet another weekend of sickening rank suicide-inducing poison 🤢

How much more of this horror can anypone be expected to take? The vilest of vile springs to follow on from a worse than putrid Autumn and Winter.

How the hell can the models and forecasting be so useless? This was the predicted rainfall in the 6hrs up to midday from GFS
UserPostedImage

Nothing according to that. So why the hell is it hammering down under foul murky skies yet again. It's beyond a joke. Another month that looks like having twice the average rainfall as the monthly average has already been surpassed with 13 days still to go. It's now the 6th wetter than average month in seven 🤢

On course to have the full annual average rainfall in just seven months since the start of September. There is no let up in the never ending 💩

Would far rather have the snow back than this. About the only time i've seen the sun this month and house was warmer as a result. Yesterday was a sick joke 14C with cloud and rain. Like nothing on earth these temperatures would have brought at this time of year, just as days of full sun would never have brought sub 5C maxes either.

I'm having to take the rest of the month off to use up annual leave and this is the filth I am kicked in the teeth with. A coma-inducing horror show of relentless grey skies and rain that is as atypical as it's possible to get. Used to be the the first half of March was like winter and the second like spring. Certainly not this autumnal dirge.

I truly detest this country. The worst place to live in the developed world. A miserable depressing hole 🤮🤮🤮
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Bolty
20 March 2023 22:14:02
These mild days of late have felt very strange for early spring in that they have been very showery and humid. Usually at this time of year, mild days tend to more likely than not be dry and sunny. This different combination has made it feel more like a mild burst in October than one in March, to be honest.
Scott
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Saint Snow
21 March 2023 16:07:05


I truly detest this country. The worst place to live in the developed world. A miserable depressing hole 🤮🤮🤮

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 




The weather's not great, either.

 

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Bolty
21 March 2023 21:44:34
As unpleasant and annoying as it is at the moment, I'm not too worried about the weather just yet. Given the way recent years have seen these rapid flips from very dry to washout conditions and vice versa, my view is that as we move further into spring we will hopefully revert back to a drier, more settled pattern once again. It is only March after all, and I personally think I'd be more worried if we had seen that dry and settled February continue right though this month too.
Scott
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MRazzell
24 March 2023 12:55:37
*Shakes fist at the sky as 2 weeks of frustration boils over*

Have we not suffered enough???

Enough of this relentless wind and rain already!!!
Matt.
Jiries
24 March 2023 19:13:53

*Shakes fist at the sky as 2 weeks of frustration boils over*

Have we not suffered enough???

Enough of this relentless wind and rain already!!!

Originally Posted by: MRazzell 



That another reason why I stop doing the weather data because of very boring dry and wet periods lately and extremely lack of variety and temps very static.  Overall despite how poor this month I am pleased that it not been cold since first week of March and heating had been little use or some days without it like today thanks to sunshine in between showers.  Room temps had been 16C mornings to 18-19C day time. 
Jiries
26 March 2023 06:47:42
Regarding weather apps it been terribly wrong every single day and fictional forecasts and now casts.   Yesterday they put 24hrs rain had  failed severely as it was mostly sunny to full pm sunshine clocking around 8-9 hrs on 12 hrs daylight.  It kept showing full rain when is was sunny. Once again it showing 5 days non stop rain from Tuesday.   I keep it for laugh at.  Window watching is the way I know well for the day.
Snowjoke
26 March 2023 08:26:07
Can anyone explain why we have been having a run of truly awful cold springs? It seems like years now since we had a warm and sunny spring. I'm in Central France and so far this year we have failed to see a temperature above 20 degrees. We had a warm spell in February when we reached 18 degrees, but March has been cool and wet and pretty miserable here. We are a long way south of you in the UK (but high up) above 500 metres. 

I cannot recall any sustained high pressure since February. Maybe one day here or there.

It's truly abysmal. Seems to be getting colder not warmer. You can guarantee we will reach June and then we will see 40 degrees!!
NMA
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26 March 2023 10:26:01

Can anyone explain why we have been having a run of truly awful cold springs? It seems like years now since we had a warm and sunny spring. I'm in Central France and so far this year we have failed to see a temperature above 20 degrees. We had a warm spell in February when we reached 18 degrees, but March has been cool and wet and pretty miserable here. We are a long way south of you in the UK (but high up) above 500 metres. 

I cannot recall any sustained high pressure since February. Maybe one day here or there.

It's truly abysmal. Seems to be getting colder not warmer. You can guarantee we will reach June and then we will see 40 degrees!!

Originally Posted by: Snowjoke 



Is it anything to do with the appalling state of journalism in the UK today? Well probably not.

How about this from the Crime Reporter of all people for Devon Live masquerading as a weather reporter.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/uk-weather-switch-up-frost-8290758 

Headline 
UK weather switch-up as frost, ice and snow forecast on Arctic frozen day
The Met Office have warned that a southern breeze from the Arctic will push a frozen band of snow and frost into Britain which could result in Scotland and some northern parts of England facing spells of snowfall throughout the morning, peaking at about 9am. Sic
And he continues obviously in a state of confusion…

London and the South West could hit a balmy 7C by 11am, and the temperature is expected to rise to about 10C as the day progresses.
Since when has 7C been balmy unless you're an Eskimo? I give up. But then once he'd copied pasted some stuff from the Met Office it became clearer what the weather was probably going to do.

But yes we do seem to have had a run of chilly springs. It will be interesting if we see some traditional April showers with those beautiful cloudscapes we can get at this time of year. They've been rare or non existent in recent years in this part of Dorset.
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Chunky Pea
26 March 2023 13:21:39

Can anyone explain why we have been having a run of truly awful cold springs? It seems like years now since we had a warm and sunny spring. I'm in Central France and so far this year we have failed to see a temperature above 20 degrees. We had a warm spell in February when we reached 18 degrees, but March has been cool and wet and pretty miserable here. We are a long way south of you in the UK (but high up) above 500 metres. 

I cannot recall any sustained high pressure since February. Maybe one day here or there.

It's truly abysmal. Seems to be getting colder not warmer. You can guarantee we will reach June and then we will see 40 degrees!!

Originally Posted by: Snowjoke 


Spring always feels cold at this time of year because it is cold. Spring 'proper' doesn't really get going until May in my opinion, which is why I detest March and April more than any other months of the year. Long daylight hours but with the landscapes and feel of the air still looking and feeling like midwinter. 
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Jiries
26 March 2023 15:49:48

It will be interesting if we see some traditional April showers with those beautiful cloudscapes we can get at this time of year. They've been rare or non existent in recent years in this part of Dorset.

Originally Posted by: NMA 



Used to see those a lot in the past but nowadays is replaced with outbreak of rain due to cloudy weather in between instead of blue skies.  Shower mean blue skies and rain or snow showers and outbreak of rain mean rain on and off and overcast.
Snowjoke
26 March 2023 18:20:14
I remember spring 2003. We moved from the south coast of England to Snowdonia in Wales. February, March and April were stunning with wall to wall sunshine. Crazy amount of sunshine hours. We couldn't believe it!! Can't recall a spring like that in this decade or the last.
tierradelfuego
26 March 2023 19:11:03

I remember spring 2003. We moved from the south coast of England to Snowdonia in Wales. February, March and April were stunning with wall to wall sunshine. Crazy amount of sunshine hours. We couldn't believe it!! Can't recall a spring like that in this decade or the last.

Originally Posted by: Snowjoke 



Not sure about Wales, and very jealous to be not living in that area, but lockdown 2020 was incredible here, we ate lunch outside most days in April & May with beautiful silence from the lack of far off road traffic and further off air polution.
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doctormog
26 March 2023 19:31:54
I remember spring 2020 as very pleasant in terms of weather which made lockdown that little bit more tolerable. Long walks on the sunshine, quiet roads etc.

Although as this is the moaning thread my moan is that it has been snowing today and when it it is due to warm up in the coming days it looks like being rather unsettled.
Saint Snow
27 March 2023 08:53:02

Is it anything to do with the appalling state of journalism in the UK today? 

Originally Posted by: NMA 



Sensationalism begets clicks. 

Clicks beget higher advertising revenue. 


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