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08 August 2024 21:26:22
2003 holds the date records for 5th, 6th and 10th (and almost the 9th)

2020 holds the date records for 7th, 8th, 11th and 12th

The longstanding date records for early August are
- from 1911; 9th Aug 36.7 at Raunds, Northants (just pipping 2003) and 13th Aug 35.0 Salisbury (just pipping 2022)
- from 1876; 14th Aug 35.0 Cambridge (just pipping 2022) and 15th Aug 32.8 Stratfield, Hants (just pipping 2001)
but it doesn't look as if these are under threat this year. (What a long time ago they were!)

But for Monday 12th, which looks as if it will be the hottest day of the current spell, the target is 35.7, Charlwood in Surrey 2020.
https://www.torro.org.uk/extremes/date-records/max-temp 

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Chichester 12m asl
Rob K
08 August 2024 22:36:03
I don’t think there’s any danger of 35 being reached on Monday. 32 or possibly 33 but it seems to be getting downgraded all the time now. 29C is the forecast max for my area. 
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Jiries
10 August 2024 11:02:11
Today totally unexpecting clouds will hamper many areas from warming temps as it due to rise today to Monday under clear sunny skies.  Past warm or heatwave we get many sunny days prior to that.
Retron
10 August 2024 12:03:49

I don’t think there’s any danger of 35 being reached on Monday. 32 or possibly 33 but it seems to be getting downgraded all the time now. 29C is the forecast max for my area. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


No downgrading here, the MetO raw sticks with 33. I'd say there's a decent (30%) chance of 35 being reached, and 33 is a certainty.

https://ukwct.org.uk/weather/hot.jpg 
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Leysdown, north Kent
LeedsLad123
10 August 2024 14:46:27

No downgrading here, the MetO raw sticks with 33. I'd say there's a decent (30%) chance of 35 being reached, and 33 is a certainty.

https://ukwct.org.uk/weather/hot.jpg 
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Originally Posted by: Retron 


Forecast temperatures have slowly increased here. UKV model is showing 32C here on Monday, it was showing high 20s a couple of days ago.

UKV is also showing 34C in Essex & Cambridgeshire, so 35C is certainly very possible.  
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Jiries
10 August 2024 15:47:04

Forecast temperatures have slowly increased here. UKV model is showing 32C here on Monday, it was showing high 20s a couple of days ago.

UKV is also showing 34C in Essex & Cambridgeshire, so 35C is certainly very possible.  

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Still cagey about those temps v clouds as here same around 32C forecast but after today incident give shorter window to warm up like hoping to see 28 to 30 tomorrow if true sunny dsy occur. 
StoneCroze
10 August 2024 16:20:42
Warm air starting to arrive here, wind has swung to the S. Dew point currently 17C.
Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
Retron
10 August 2024 16:24:48

Warm air starting to arrive here, wind has swung to the S. Dew point currently 17C.

Originally Posted by: StoneCroze 


The warm air never really left here: 26.9 yesterday, a brief 13.8 overnight (still above average, but pleasant compared to what's coming), and currently 26.1 / dew 17.5 this evening. I'm dreading Monday, especially as I've got to go to the doctor's at lunchtime - no way am I walking a mile in those conditions, it'll have to be the car!

Leysdown, north Kent
StoneCroze
10 August 2024 16:28:03

The warm air never really left here: 26.9 yesterday, a brief 13.8 overnight (still above average, but pleasant compared to what's coming), and currently 26.1 / dew 17.5 this evening. I'm dreading Monday, especially as I've got to go to the doctor's at lunchtime - no way am I walking a mile in those conditions, it'll have to be the car!

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Don't blame you.
We were lucky yesterday, a cold front cleared through in the morning which reduced the humidity temporarily. As I look out over the Channel I can see some big fog banks forming and they will roll in later tonight.
Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
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Ally Pally Snowman
10 August 2024 17:47:12
Latest Arpege has 33c, GEM 32c and GFS 33c. 
I think 34c is probably likely maybe 35c if cloud free.
Shame it's a one day wonder though.
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Jiries
11 August 2024 07:33:21

Still cagey about those temps v clouds as here same around 32C forecast but after today incident give shorter window to warm up like hoping to see 28 to 30 tomorrow if true sunny dsy occur. 

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


I was right about the clouds I am more concern and it happened this morning and many reports from the NW thread also having cloud cover from the south coast to here so how the heat can enter ?  So much for idiot apps showing fictional sunny symbol which so rare to appear did not happened and failed completely for a wall to wall sunshine. Was clear until the convective infill cloud cover rush in as soon as the sun rise. 

Idiot wrong forecasts and climate in this country.
Rob K
11 August 2024 09:33:22
Well it’s certainly clear here In Hampshire Jiries. Wall to wall blue and already very warm. 
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Retron
11 August 2024 09:36:37

Idiot wrong forecasts and climate in this country.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Goodness knows why you ever moved away from Kent!

Sunny here, of course, with clear blue skies, and there's a breeze coming in from the sea.

We'll avoid the worst of the heat today here thanks to that wind, but the dewpoint's back to oppressive levels - presently it's 22.8, which is today's high so far, and the dewpoint is 19.2. Last night's low was 16.7, so the warm airmass is firmly in place.

Tomorrow, without the seabreeze and with an added foehn from the Downs, we'll be amongst the warmest places in the country. The MetO raw still has 33 and the text forecast has 34.
Leysdown, north Kent
Brian Gaze
11 August 2024 09:47:05
UKV going for 35C again.

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StoneCroze
11 August 2024 09:48:08
As I forecast yesterday, fog has rolled in. 50 metres visibility and temp.17C. Guernsey 23 nm's to my South is 22C and in sunshine.
Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
Jiries
11 August 2024 09:53:31

Goodness knows why you ever moved away from Kent!

Sunny here, of course, with clear blue skies, and there's a breeze coming in from the sea.

We'll avoid the worst of the heat today here thanks to that wind, but the dewpoint's back to oppressive levels - presently it's 22.8, which is today's high so far, and the dewpoint is 19.2. Last night's low was 16.7, so the warm airmass is firmly in place.

Tomorrow, without the seabreeze and with an added foehn from the Downs, we'll be amongst the warmest places in the country. The MetO raw still has 33 and the text forecast has 34.

Originally Posted by: Retron 


No is a lot cooler in Lower Stoke than here and lot drier away from the southern rain slider that they got a lot this year.  Lot of clouds reports i read this morning so that take loss of 5 hours of rising temps today.  Need full sun from the start to allow temps to rise well and get to 28C today and over 30C tomorrow which i doubt due to clouds might appear again.
Retron
11 August 2024 10:21:37

No is a lot cooler in Lower Stoke than here and lot drier away from the southern rain slider that they got a lot this year.  Lot of clouds reports i read this morning so that take loss of 5 hours of rising temps today.  Need full sun from the start to allow temps to rise well and get to 28C today and over 30C tomorrow which i doubt due to clouds might appear again.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Rain has been almost entirely absent for three and a half weeks down here! You'd love it, all the grass is dying off and going yellow, something which didn't happen last year.

Meanwhile the MetO raw now has 34C for here tomorrow. Delightful, not.
Leysdown, north Kent
westv
11 August 2024 11:06:52

Rain has been almost entirely absent for three and a half weeks down here! You'd love it, all the grass is dying off and going yellow, something which didn't happen last year.

Meanwhile the MetO raw now has 34C for here tomorrow. Delightful, not.

Originally Posted by: Retron 


The grass doesn't really die off. It may go brown but it will soon recover when the rain comes.
At least it will be mild!
briggsy6
11 August 2024 12:35:17
"Households being told to shut windows and close curtains until Tuesday," Sounds a bit overly dramatic and nanny state to me.
Location: Uxbridge
Jiries
11 August 2024 13:05:44

"Households being told to shut windows and close curtains until Tuesday," Sounds a bit overly dramatic and nanny state to me.

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


Yes those today temperatures are a lot lower than forecast to idiots clouds so no need to close them up.  I totally hate those stupid warnings as it out of order and no other country put those silly  for mid 20s to high 20s. Unless it 32C or more to warrant a warning.
westv
11 August 2024 13:18:12

"Households being told to shut windows and close curtains until Tuesday," Sounds a bit overly dramatic and nanny state to me.

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


We keep our curtains closed anyway on the sunny side of the house during warm weather.
At least it will be mild!
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Retron
11 August 2024 13:27:34

We keep our curtains closed anyway on the sunny side of the house during warm weather.

Originally Posted by: westv 


Same here, but it doesn't help that much - they just turn into large panel radiators when the sun shines onto them!

I've found trees and shrubs to be more useful... the large hazel in my garden, with the cherry tree the neighbour at the back has, block sunlight from hitting my living room until 7 in the morning, and that gives a valuable couple of hours of cooler conditions. Similarly, the large viburnum at the front blocks sunlight from the dining room in the late afternoon, helping that stay a degree or two cooler than it'd otherwise be.

It's why the trend towards plastic grass and car parks out front makes things worse: my house is, at least, a little bit cooler for having vegetation.

The best way to stay cool in the hot weather tomorrow will be to stay indoors with a/c running!
Leysdown, north Kent
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Retron
11 August 2024 13:30:01

The grass doesn't really die off. It may go brown but it will soon recover when the rain comes.

Originally Posted by: westv 


Indeed, once autumn shows up it should be quite quick to recover. Incidentally the aforementioned hazel tree is noticeably shedding leaves today, yellowed by the lack of rain. I suspect things won't be improved by a blowtorch tomorrow... reminds me, in a way, of the damage caused by that hot day in 2022... 39C plus a strong breeze was disastrous for the trees, and several of them shut down for the summer there and then.

Leysdown, north Kent
Windy Willow
11 August 2024 13:51:14

Same here, but it doesn't help that much - they just turn into large panel radiators when the sun shines onto them!

I've found trees and shrubs to be more useful... the large hazel in my garden, with the cherry tree the neighbour at the back has, block sunlight from hitting my living room until 7 in the morning, and that gives a valuable couple of hours of cooler conditions. Similarly, the large viburnum at the front blocks sunlight from the dining room in the late afternoon, helping that stay a degree or two cooler than it'd otherwise be.

It's why the trend towards plastic grass and car parks out front makes things worse: my house is, at least, a little bit cooler for having vegetation.

The best way to stay cool in the hot weather tomorrow will be to stay indoors with a/c running!

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Our new homes living room is dual aspect, with the front widow facing SE and the back window NW. The SE facing window has a good blackout blind and is down all day, with windows firmly shut and then the NW side is nicely sheltered by the neighbours trees, one being a lovely, tall silver birch and then in the very NW neighbours have copper beech trees on either side of their garden, which offer us lovely dappled shade from the sun later in the afternoon, early evening. The window on this side is open as the sun won't be there until about 4/5pm and we have a fan circulating the cooler air from that side. it's been working very nicely, on the hot sunny days we've had, since moving up here.
It's 25.4c outside right now and a pleasant 22c indoors and the air being moved by the fan is still nice and cool.
South Holland, Lincs 5m/16ft ASL

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Chunky Pea
11 August 2024 17:33:04
Temp only around 21c here but dew point flicking between 18/19c all afternoon. Fair breeze out to help offset the feel a little. 
Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 

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