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doctormog
01 August 2024 21:52:33

Was 33C in the livng room yesterday and 40.9C in the conservatory and 28-30C in other rooms.  Today was 30.8C inside and 38.2C.  All windows air vents open and Conservatory windows opened ajar for my clothes washing humidity to exit out and dried out fast.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


I’m sorry. That sounds horrendous.

It’s a very unpleasant 27.1°C indoors here at the moment.
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01 August 2024 22:16:38

I’m sorry. That sounds horrendous.

It’s a very unpleasant 27.1°C indoors here at the moment.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


At least for your side to save on heating costs.  Mind you with 33C yesterday during this warm spell and not even a heatwave for the Midlands areas at 28C only.  No idea how hot it will be inside if we get a heatwave of plus 30-34C for here.  If that happened will open the doors and wndow to level out otherwise will be too high at 38C as my preferance indoor temps is 25-30C stable temps for summer seasons to 20-25C Autumn and 20C in winter.
Tim A
02 August 2024 06:50:55
23-26c in the house, quite uncomfortable upstairs last couple of nights. Need to be back in my air conditioned London hotel room. 
Have all the windows and doors open now though so cooling down nicely. 
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Retron
02 August 2024 07:01:10


It’s a very unpleasant 27.1°C indoors here at the moment.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


That's pretty remarkable for Aberdeen, I'd have thought? That'd make it feel even worse, although hopefully you didn't have the 20C+ dewpoints to go with it.

The past couple of nights have been around the 28 mark upstairs, apart from my bedroom where the portable a/c has struggled to bring it down to 21 or 22, generating huge amounts of condensate runoff in the process!

Incidentally the local rag carries an article about home a/c being increasingly common, a trend I've mentioned on here before. Via PA news and KentOnline. Again, as per usual, no mention that you need planning permission... but they did mention the need to run a new circuit, albeit indirectly!
(And no, keeping curtains pulled as I do when it's cooler inside than out doesn't help much when it's 30C outside and sunny, the curtains effectively become radiators! Ceiling fans just mix the relatively cooler air at lower levels in your bedroom with the hot stuff up by the ceiling, which again doesn't really help, even if it creates a placebo effect for others...)

Demand grows for home air conditioning as temperatures rise

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/news/national/demand-grows-for-home-air-conditioning-as-temperatures-rise-124569/ 
More than half of UK adults (52%) said their home can become “unbearably” hot in the summer, rising to 62% in London.

Four-fifths of adults (80%) said higher temperatures create difficulties with sleeping.

More than a quarter (28%) said they sleep naked in high temperatures and 47% sleep without covers.

Maria Lawrence, Direct Line’s product manager for home insurance, said: “As continental living styles are increasingly adopted in the UK, the latest trend is to install air conditioning in the home to keep cool.

...

“If you are considering installing air conditioning, it’s important just to notify your insurer about the works being completed and your electricity services in case additional power is needed.

“Alternative, cheaper and quicker steps for keeping cool include installing ceiling fans and keeping the curtains shut during the day.”
Leysdown, north Kent
doctormog
02 August 2024 07:27:22

At least for your side to save on heating costs.  Mind you with 33C yesterday during this warm spell and not even a heatwave for the Midlands areas at 28C only.  No idea how hot it will be inside if we get a heatwave of plus 30-34C for here.  If that happened will open the doors and wndow to level out otherwise will be too high at 38C as my preferance indoor temps is 25-30C stable temps for summer seasons to 20-25C Autumn and 20C in winter.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



The 27°C is warm but not significantly unusual as the house will heat up a lot due to the long hours of sunshine (if they happen!) and light winds. Thankfully the breeze picked up a little after I posted that and the temperature dropped a bit so it wasn’t excessively warm overnight.

As for saving on heating costs, I wouldn’t expect the heating to come on until October or the very end of September at the very earliest.
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02 August 2024 08:49:11

The 27°C is warm but not significantly unusual as the house will heat up a lot due to the long hours of sunshine (if they happen!) and light winds. Thankfully the breeze picked up a little after I posted that and the temperature dropped a bit so it wasn’t excessively warm overnight.

As for saving on heating costs, I wouldn’t expect the heating to come on until October or the very end of September at the very earliest.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Yes if your house stay warm the latent warmth will be stored for a long while when cold weather arrive.  I hoping mine to have no heating until November as I am sure in October it will be warm to very warm throughout and if any cold weather then the latent warmth will keep us warm supply as it take a week or 2 for the walls to be cold again.
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13 August 2024 20:01:32
Got home from shift work at 7pm to greeted a hot indoor temps as it was max at 31.4c living room and 39.1C consevatory, both were much higher than yesteday struggle at 29.6c and 34.4C respectively due to cloudy weather.   Was nearly wall to wall sunshine and the best day for August so far.
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13 August 2024 20:25:30
27C downstairs.  28C upstairs.     🙂 
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13 August 2024 21:48:20
22.6C. There's been a fair amount of cloud here in late afternoon which has allowed indoors to cool a bit.
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Chichester 12m asl
Retron
14 August 2024 04:31:56
The warmth persists here: 26C upstairs, 24C downstairs first thing this morning. Hot days + warm nights = 🥵

(Yesterday evening was 32C upstairs, 26C downstairs).
Leysdown, north Kent
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14 August 2024 05:40:04

The warmth persists here: 26C upstairs, 24C downstairs first thing this morning. Hot days + warm nights = 🥵

(Yesterday evening was 32C upstairs, 26C downstairs).

Originally Posted by: Retron 


21C in the kitchen. You need a thatch roof Darren. Great insulation summer and winter.
Vale of the Great Dairies
South Dorset
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Retron
14 August 2024 05:46:01

21C in the kitchen. You need a thatch roof Darren. Great insulation summer and winter.

Originally Posted by: NMA 


Whoever gets my house after I die will doubtless knock it down, but I doubt they'll build something with a thatched roof! We have none of those on Sheppey, or anywhere nearby for that matter. My house has a flat roof, as it's a shed on a bungalow... there really isn't much you can do in terms of stopping it getting hot. They just didn't design things in the 60s and 70s for our modern climate, indeed I believe people were expecting things to turn colder rather than warmer as late as the 70s.
Leysdown, north Kent
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14 August 2024 06:25:34

Whoever gets my house after I die will doubtless knock it down, but I doubt they'll build something with a thatched roof! We have none of those on Sheppey, or anywhere nearby for that matter. My house has a flat roof, as it's a shed on a bungalow... there really isn't much you can do in terms of stopping it getting hot. They just didn't design things in the 60s and 70s for our modern climate, indeed I believe people were expecting things to turn colder rather than warmer as late as the 70s.

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Indeed they were, on the basis that the Milankovitch cycle was due to cool the Earth down. But things have gone the other way ...,
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14 August 2024 06:29:10

21C in the kitchen. You need a thatch roof Darren. Great insulation summer and winter.

Originally Posted by: NMA 


But throw in annual maintenance and a £50K bill for a complete re-thatch every 40 years or so?
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Tim A
14 August 2024 09:59:22
As far as I can remember all the thatched roofs I have seen have been SW of Birmingham,  most parts they don't seem that prevalent. 
Inside here currently 22-24c fairly pleasant , but a bit too warm upstairs. 
Tim
NW Leeds
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14 August 2024 11:00:28

But throw in annual maintenance and a £50K bill for a complete re-thatch every 40 years or so?

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Maybe but a couple of years ago I had t get a 'state of thatch' report for the insurer and the thatcher suggested a value of between 15 to 20K
 for re thatching in reed. I'm in a terrace of three.
FWIW, I'm now more worried about becoming an 'attraction' if the depression outside the house really is the start of a sinkhole. I wouldn't want to be known as 'Nicks Dish' after the famous Culpepper one not so far away. We are on sand and gravel but if there is chalk underneath, it doesn't bear thinking about. There has been a slight dip for many years but it recently got much deeper. The utility services (gas, water, electric etc run there too.
No news from the Council but it's early days. I assume they will need to liaise with those services above and then carry out a geophysical survey.

In other news, the office temp which rose to searingly awful for a day or two late in the afternoons, is now a pleasant working environment again. The house comfortable too.
Vale of the Great Dairies
South Dorset
Elevation 60m 197ft
Retron
15 August 2024 05:24:02

We are on sand and gravel

Originally Posted by: NMA 


Wow - as a non-engineer, I'm surprised anything manages to survive if it's built on that. The beach here is sand and gravel (or shingle), and I couldn't imagine trying to build on it! I do hope you avoid having a sinkhole, though... we see them pop up in Kent sometimes (in the chalky areas), and they invariably take ages to sort out.

As for roofing costs, it's interesting... flat rooves are expensive, too. I paid £7K to get the main roof (~45sqm) and the one over the kitchen (~9sqm) refelted last year, and that included replacing some of the wooden decking (which was starting to rot thanks to the old felt developing a leak - by the time you get drips inside, the decking is waterlogged). That's £7K every 15-20 years, so not far off the cost of thatch!

At least your house is pleasantly cool... it was still 26 upstairs, 24 downstairs this morning, and that's with the windows open all night. It was 26C outside yesterday and will still get to 25C today... would be nice to get a cooler day thrown in to let the house get back to normal!

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15 August 2024 07:19:04
I think most properties in the Poole and Bournemouth conurbation are built on sands and gravels too.
But I wouldn't build right on the coast or the Sandbanks peninsular.
Simpsons Folly.
https://poolemuseumsociety.wordpress.com/2020/06/03/who-what-where-answers/ 
But Sway Tower in the New Forest is surely on gravels too. Clay is perhaps the worst for subsidence.
Cornish rock and you get radon issues.
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15 August 2024 07:38:44
If I can be allowed an OT post, it depends on how well the sand and gravel are consolidated. Chichester, for instance, is on a gravel basin over underlying chalk, but subsidence isn't a worry here.

The sinkhole problem east of Dorchester arises because rain acidified by passage through overlying sand dissolves the underlying chalk; and the same goes for Maidstone except that it's calcareous ragstone, not chalk.

As for clay subsidence, if you drive from Haslemere on Weald clay up to Hindhead on Greensand rock, you can tell the exact boundary by the place where the road no longer shows signs of subsidence.

But just to show that I do read thread titles, indoor temp is 20.3C with windows open.
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15 August 2024 09:37:47

If I can be allowed an OT post, it depends on how well the sand and gravel are consolidated. Chichester, for instance, is on a gravel basin over underlying chalk, but subsidence isn't a worry here.

The sinkhole problem east of Dorchester arises because rain acidified by passage through overlying sand dissolves the underlying chalk; and the same goes for Maidstone except that it's calcareous ragstone, not chalk.

As for clay subsidence, if you drive from Haslemere on Weald clay up to Hindhead on Greensand rock, you can tell the exact boundary by the place where the road no longer shows signs of subsidence.

But just to show that I do read thread titles, indoor temp is 20.3C with windows open.

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Brilliant David.
Just popped in to the kitchen and the thermometer tells me it is 20.9C and 66% humidity.
A level results day, so daughter will be checking her results in person soon. She has just been told she's received a place at Uni, so the grades must be OK.

No news is good news I hope on my ground level issue. At least the Council know and I feel that in any case underground services will need checking. They can't say they never knew if something does go wrong.
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15 August 2024 10:42:35

Brilliant David.
Just popped in to the kitchen and the thermometer tells me it is 20.9C and 66% humidity.
A level results day, so daughter will be checking her results in person soon. She has just been told she's received a place at Uni, so the grades must be OK.

No news is good news I hope on my ground level issue. At least the Council know and I feel that in any case underground services will need checking. They can't say they never knew if something does go wrong.

Originally Posted by: NMA 


I am wondering if everyone able to afford a 9k a year university? I been reading a lot today that many got a place there but how they can afford it?   25C in all rooms and 26C conservatory due to strong gale force winds battering outside.
Retron
15 August 2024 10:54:34

I am wondering if everyone able to afford a 9k a year university? I been reading a lot today that many got a place there but how they can afford it?   25C in all rooms and 26C conservatory due to strong gale force winds battering outside.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Student loans, of course. You can get the fees paid in full, plus an extra £10K/year to spend on rent, food etc. It does mean you graduate with £60K in debt, but people view it as a tax these days (at 9% above a certain level of income) rather than a real debt.

Indoor temperatures remain at 26 up, 24 down here... and as it's 23.6 outside and sunny, the only way is up!
Leysdown, north Kent
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15 August 2024 13:58:32

Student loans, of course. You can get the fees paid in full, plus an extra £10K/year to spend on rent, food etc. It does mean you graduate with £60K in debt, but people view it as a tax these days (at 9% above a certain level of income) rather than a real debt.

Indoor temperatures remain at 26 up, 24 down here... and as it's 23.6 outside and sunny, the only way is up!

Originally Posted by: Retron 


21.7 both inside and outside - with windows open
War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
doctormog
15 August 2024 14:01:37
13.4°C outside and 23.3°C inside just now. I suspect both may go up a little as the sun has just come out.
Aberdeen
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Retron
15 August 2024 14:18:05
27 up, 25 down... at least there's a breeze today, and I guess this is as good as I'll get as long as the sun's shining brightly! (It's 23C outside).
Leysdown, north Kent
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