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Hungry Tiger
10 July 2013 18:59:13





Some serious heat building later in this run from GFS:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2641.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png

We'd no doubt be seeing at least 30c degrees or more returning easily from that.
It will probably be moderated on subsequent runs though.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn36017.png


Many days of warmth if this is right


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Serious plumage http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3602.png


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Bearing in mind that is a map for midday, there is usually around 1-2C difference between the midday and 18hrs maps as 18hrs covers 3-6pm, and the real top temperatures are at least 2C hotter than the GFS maxes show, that chart implies 34C+.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes indeed, crazily hot


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


I can see temps of 32C plus coming about if things carry on like this - the ground is now getting dry and this will assist higher temperatures.


 


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Gooner
10 July 2013 19:07:46

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.gif


HP still influences the South


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Stormchaser
10 July 2013 19:15:58

ECM and UKMO very similar at 144 hours but with UKMO showing a weaker ridge (as it has done for run after run lately) and hence the trough a bit further south, with a smaller extent of the UK (i.e. the southern regions) getting away with no real interuption to the very warm and dry weather (though the odd shower could crop up).


ECM to 144h keeps things dry and very warm across a large part of England and Wales, perhaps all. GFS finds some cooler air from the NW due to less of a breakaway ridge going east into Europe, yet still temps stay in the mid-20's or higher for the Solent and SE.




Thereafter, GFS has a straight-forward Azores High extension which gradually develops further and further through FI until sudden and dramatic retrogression in the far reaches of FI (a true FI northerly of stunning extremity!). For a time conditions become seriously hot as another UK high develops and extends on eastward on combination with a continental trough.


ECM seems to keep supressing the ridge of high pressure but does keep the jet heading well north of the UK from around Iceland, allowing for very slack conditions under weak high pressure - potentially hot temperatures across most of England and Wales with some thundery showers possible. More changeable further north, but I reckon Daves' term "gently unsettled" would apply. From day 10, the Atlantic jet pattern looks conducive to lifting the trough to the NW out and allowing more of a ridge to build.




Fantastic runs overall


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Polar Low
10 July 2013 19:18:51

Thanks James



ECM and UKMO very similar at 144 hours but with UKMO showing a weaker ridge (as it has done for run after run lately) and hence the trough a bit further south, with a smaller extent of the UK (i.e. the southern regions) getting away with no real interuption to the very warm and dry weather (though the odd shower could crop up).


ECM to 144h keeps things dry and very warm across a large part of England and Wales, perhaps all. GFS finds some cooler air from the NW due to less of a breakaway ridge going east into Europe, yet still temps stay in the mid-20's or higher for the Solent and SE.




Thereafter, GFS has a straight-forward Azores High extension which gradually develops further and further through FI until sudden and dramatic retrogression in the far reaches of FI (a true FI northerly of stunning extremity!). For a time conditions become seriously hot as another UK high develops and extends on eastward on combination with a continental trough.


ECM seems to keep supressing the ridge of high pressure but does keep the jet heading well north of the UK from around Iceland, allowing for very slack conditions under weak high pressure - potentially hot temperatures across most of England and Wales with some thundery showers possible. More changeable further north, but I reckon Daves' term "gently unsettled" would apply. From day 10, the Atlantic jet pattern looks conducive to lifting the trough to the NW out and allowing more of a ridge to build.




Fantastic runs overall


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

Hungry Tiger
10 July 2013 19:27:36


ECM and UKMO very similar at 144 hours but with UKMO showing a weaker ridge (as it has done for run after run lately) and hence the trough a bit further south, with a smaller extent of the UK (i.e. the southern regions) getting away with no real interuption to the very warm and dry weather (though the odd shower could crop up).


ECM to 144h keeps things dry and very warm across a large part of England and Wales, perhaps all. GFS finds some cooler air from the NW due to less of a breakaway ridge going east into Europe, yet still temps stay in the mid-20's or higher for the Solent and SE.




Thereafter, GFS has a straight-forward Azores High extension which gradually develops further and further through FI until sudden and dramatic retrogression in the far reaches of FI (a true FI northerly of stunning extremity!). For a time conditions become seriously hot as another UK high develops and extends on eastward on combination with a continental trough.


ECM seems to keep supressing the ridge of high pressure but does keep the jet heading well north of the UK from around Iceland, allowing for very slack conditions under weak high pressure - potentially hot temperatures across most of England and Wales with some thundery showers possible. More changeable further north, but I reckon Daves' term "gently unsettled" would apply. From day 10, the Atlantic jet pattern looks conducive to lifting the trough to the NW out and allowing more of a ridge to build.




Fantastic runs overall


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 



It doesn't get much better than that. Excellent.


 


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Polar Low
10 July 2013 19:29:19
Hungry Tiger
10 July 2013 19:29:52

July 26th on GFS.


http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm


I think we'd all like to think that doesn't come about.


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GIBBY
10 July 2013 19:47:41

Good evening. Here is my version of the report of the midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday July 10th 2013.


All models show the weather largely settled over the UK over the remaining days of the week and the weekend. There will be small variations in wind flow, cloud amounts and temperature levels over the period but in essence all areas will see some very warm or hot conditions with plenty of sunshine with some more cloudy interludes too, especially in the North. Rainfall this side of next week is unlikely in any one place but as a weakening cold front slips South on Sunday a few heavy showers or thunderstorms are possible on Sunday.


GFS then has next week showing continuing fine conditions for many with patchy cloud and the odd shower restricted to more Northern parts through the week while the fine and warmer weather in the SW extends further North and East to other areas in time for next weekend. Then the weather really turns very hot with temperatures over 30C for many with light winds and a High positioned right over the UK. Then the weather nosedives at the end of the run with pressure falling and temperatures plummeting as a Low moves close to SE England with rain and if anything rather cool conditions to end the run.


The GFS Ensembles show pleasantly warm conditions with very little rainfall tonight. The first week looks almost entirely dry across the South with relatively little rain in the second week either. There will be some very warm days and copious sunny spells too as High pressure looks like re-establishing across the British Isles later next week.


The Jet Stream shows the expected flow moving South from Iceland next week rather less evident tonight with any movement weaker and transitory before the flow could shift North again towards the end of next week as High pressure builds back once more from the SW.


UKMO tonight shows somewhat fresher Westerly winds making inroads over the UK early next week, even in the South. However, apart from a few showers in the North a lot of dry weather would most likely remain with pleasantly warm conditions still in sunny spells in the South.


GEM tonight shows High pressure building back over the British Isles through next week maintaining the dry spell and after a slightly cooler interlude temperatures will climb again with very warm weather developing for all later in the week with maybe a thundery shower towards the East at the end of the run as High pressure recedes away NE to Northern Scandinavia.


NAVGEM shows no exception with High pressure building back over the South later next week with fine and warm weather never leaving the South before extending North and east to most other areas by the weekend.


ECM shows any build back of High pressure restricted to just Southern Britain with the North staying slightly more changeable and cooler with a little rain at times. The South would be warm and settled for much of the time with some warm sunny spells with any shower risk here reserved right out at the end of the run as a trough moves gently East into the UK from off the Atlantic with the risk of just a few thundery showers for a time.


In Summary the weather still looks remaining set fair for much of the next two weeks with some models going for a strong rebuild of UK High pressure towards the end of next week with a further surge of heat, especially from GFS. ECM is less supportive of this but even that shows ample dry and fine conditions for Southern area where it would stay warm and sunny at times. The North will see more cloud, lower temperatures but nothing too dramatic with OK conditions between the occasional outbreaks of rain.


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nickl
10 July 2013 19:49:17

as we ride the ridging from the west and troughing to our ne, today's runs have definitely swung the pendulum back in favour of the ridge. awaiting the ecm 12z ens but i would be surprised if the upper trough were as far west or as marked as yesterdays run. of course the emphasis could swing back again tomorrow - we'll have to wait and see. the gefs certainly impressive in wanting to bring another hot weekend.

Polar Low
10 July 2013 19:53:29

Thanks Martin


 

Downpour
10 July 2013 20:15:00




Some serious heat building later in this run from GFS:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2641.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.png

We'd no doubt be seeing at least 30c degrees or more returning easily from that.
It will probably be moderated on subsequent runs though.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn36017.png


Many days of warmth if this is right


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Serious plumage http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3602.png


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Bearing in mind that is a map for midday, there is usually around 1-2C difference between the midday and 18hrs maps as 18hrs covers 3-6pm, and the real top temperatures are at least 2C hotter than the GFS maxes show, that chart implies 34C+.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes indeed, crazily hot

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 




In deepest FI (thankfully) 🙂
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Downpour
10 July 2013 20:19:13

July 26th on GFS.


http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm


I think we'd all like to think that doesn't come about.

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 





I fly to the Cote D'Azur on the 27th! 🙂
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Stormchaser
10 July 2013 21:24:54


as we ride the ridging from the west and troughing to our ne, today's runs have definitely swung the pendulum back in favour of the ridge. awaiting the ecm 12z ens but i would be surprised if the upper trough were as far west or as marked as yesterdays run. of course the emphasis could swing back again tomorrow - we'll have to wait and see. the gefs certainly impressive in wanting to bring another hot weekend.


Originally Posted by: nickl 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1922.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2402.gif


Looks like the ensembles have not only improved substantially but actually bettered the op run in that the Atlantic low trough isn't anywhere near as close and the ridge is a little stronger.


I did initially think that the ECM 12z op run was a bit odd in having such a weak ridge, but looking back to charts from 2006 I can see many cases where there was very slack high pressure, barely above 1015mb, providing hot and sunny weather at the surface for much of the time but with some thunderstorms in the evenings


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picturesareme
10 July 2013 21:49:34


July 26th on GFS.


http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm


I think we'd all like to think that doesn't come about.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


20th - 24th look absolutely scorching with widespread low 30's i'd imagine, then a slack low (probably thundery) approaches from the southwest.


 


So with 7 more days of fine warm/ very warm weather followed by 4 hot and increasingly humid days, then 2 days of sultry thundery stuff... whats the problem i say yes please


 


(hope i'm readng those charts correctly)

Jiries
10 July 2013 22:06:25

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs964.gif


30C on Sunday so a very hot weekend coming up.  Could be Saturday or Sunday likely to be the peak hottest day here while Yorkshire area get their peak heat on Friday at 30C.

Gooner
10 July 2013 22:08:31

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn4817.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn7217.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn9617.png


Some real heat coming up


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Jiries
10 July 2013 22:27:17
Gooner
10 July 2013 22:28:34


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs1384.gif


31C on Tuesday.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn17417.png


Looks a warmer run for a few


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LeedsLad123
10 July 2013 22:30:38
This run is by far warmer than the 12z - the heat is more extensive now, and Tuesday, the 'cooler' day, is now projected to be 26C here, and Wednesday sees 29C pushing into Yorkshire. Wow, what a run!
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Jiries
10 July 2013 22:35:40

This run is by far warmer than the 12z - the heat is more extensive now, and Tuesday, the 'cooler' day, is now projected to be 26C here, and Wednesday sees 29C pushing into Yorkshire. Wow, what a run!

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Yes it an upgrade for continuing the heat and if next few runs show this for next week heat then it likely to stay hot.  It the same as last year when it was unsettled and cool and the models always show settled weather coming up in a week time never came nearer and kept churning out more cool and unsettled charts.

Gooner
10 July 2013 22:43:29

This run is by far warmer than the 12z - the heat is more extensive now, and Tuesday, the 'cooler' day, is now projected to be 26C here, and Wednesday sees 29C pushing into Yorkshire. Wow, what a run!

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Yes , some real heat on the cards and prolonged


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn26417.png


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NickR
11 July 2013 06:48:02
Sustained heat on the GFS 00z until 23 July.
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Gary L
11 July 2013 07:02:27

Great runs this morning, I fully expected a cool down this weekend but there's been quite a dramatic shift in the dominance of high pressure over the weekend and into next week. 

Gusty
11 July 2013 07:05:12

ECM 192...stifling heat emerging and with the alignment of the Azores high much further north it is likely that any developments at 216-240 will result in the next cell taking its place and residing over the UK.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.gif


Source starting to be drawn from the hot continent.


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Gooner
11 July 2013 07:05:21

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn6617.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn9017.png


A hot weekend for many coming up


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Banbury
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