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The Beast from the East
16 July 2013 23:15:13

It's worth noting for the weirdos that like rain Wink there's some real instability creeping in there from midweek

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



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Sevendust
16 July 2013 23:52:28


It's worth noting for the weirdos that like rain Wink there's some real instability creeping in there from midweek


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Fixed

Gooner
16 July 2013 23:55:20

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2161.png


Thundery outbreaks??


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2164.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn21617.png


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
16 July 2013 23:57:54

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn36017.png


Heat comes back late on


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Rob K
17 July 2013 00:17:36


There a little gray colour under the 32C figure in west of London, I did make sure is not a dirt on my computer screen as it very clean.

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 



That's the Heathrow effect!

Btw after a coolish snap in the last week of July the heat builds again at month's end with some quite 2003ish synoptics
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn36017.png 
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
bledur
17 July 2013 04:44:45

Indeed somewhere along the line he will get slaughtered , I am sure Nick will say something


woo, i am shaking in my boots , nick the moderatorLOL you are a laugh. 


as to the change in the weather, had a quick look this morning and yes it looks hot next week , but far more unstable with low pressure approaching the s.w

Matty H
17 July 2013 06:38:58
ECM brings in some serious heat later next week. Full on plume.
Steam Fog
17 July 2013 07:02:15
ECM and GFS both keep it very warm for next 9 days, before a shift towards temperatures closer to average for late July.

http://images.meteociel.fr/im/9747/ECM1-240_ckt3.GIF 

Still at that 9-10 day range, but fairly good, if not conclusive, support building towards a change after what would be just over three weeks of very warm weather.
Rob K
17 July 2013 07:30:25
At a glance the extreme heat of last night's models seems to have been moderated a little this morning. Still looks set fair for another 10 days of 28-30c maxima though even if the crazy numbers have disappeared.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Scandy 1050 MB
17 July 2013 07:42:14

At a glance the extreme heat of last night's models seems to have been moderated a little this morning. Still looks set fair for another 10 days of 28-30c maxima though even if the crazy numbers have disappeared.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Reminds me of winter where you get extreme cold only for it to be moderated nearer the event, some good agreement in FI yet again of a breakdown now but I'd want to see that repeated over the next 3 or 4 days in the output before I'll buy it. I suspect the next run may have a swing back again with reinforced HP, but if not could be the end of the hot spell for the moment on the cards.


 


In the meantime if you love the heat make the most of next week as in the reliable time frame subtle changes day by day of where the top heat is but the north at least can enjoy some of it later this week once again. Makes a change for them as they usually miss out!

GIBBY
17 July 2013 07:51:33

Good morning. Here is the report on the midnight outputs of GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday July 17th 2013.


All models show a fine and very warm or hot period still to come with at least 5-6 days more of fine weather still to come before some changes begin to take place. High pressure will remain centred over the UK with very warm uppers over the UK and the persistent cloud and drizzle in the far NW should finally move away North soon. As always in hot weather there is always the chance of the odd thundery shower at anytime in the heat of each day but these will never be a widespread feature over this period. Later in the weekend as the High drifts further north cooler and more cloudy conditions could begin to move into Eastern and central parts from the East.


GFS then shows next week as a week when pressure slowly leaks away over the UK as the high pressure becomes less defined with a slack flow allowing some thundery showers to become more prevalent later in the week though temperatures will remain very warm for many. Through next weekend and the further outer reaches of the run the weather looks like it could finally break down with rain at times and rather cooler air feeding in from off the Atlantic as Low pressure begins to take more control.


The GFS Ensembles shows a more definitive indication that cooler weather may move into Southern Britain around the 26th-27th. There is in the meantime plenty more hot and sunny weather to come before Low pressure makes inroads from the Atlantic with outbreaks of rain, innitially thundery and cooler air following from the West.


The Jet Stream shows the flow maintained to the North of the UK for another week at least before indications suggest it may move South towards the UK in Week 2 albeit never particularly strongly.


UKMO this morning looks very warm and humid to begin next week with High ressure having become less defined and located near Norway with a slack windflow across the UK and pressure having fallen somewhat. There will be a lot of dry weather still to be found but the risk of thundery shwers will be increasing with time almost anywhere.


GEM shows much more diffuse methods of bringing any changes across the UK with the basic message being that a few thundery showers early in the week will lead to a North/South split in the weather later in the run with some cooler and somewhat unsettled conditions likely in the North while the South stays dry and bright with some warm sunshine still.


NAVGEM shows a trend towards cooler and potentially more showery weather later next week though the South and West would see very little rain as High pressure remains dominant to the SW of the British Isles.


ECM today shows that pressure leaking way next week will result in a lot more cloud, very warm or hot weather in the first half of the week but with some well scattered but heavy and thundery showers around too. later in the week cooler weather looks likely with showery rain in places as a cooler NW drift develops over the UK.


In Summary there is some shift this morning to somewhat cooler and more showery weather looking likely to develop at some stage next week. Whether this is the catalyst for a more definitive breakdown in the very warm and hot spell remains to be seen at this early stage and it maybe that many places stay dry and very warm for much of the time. Any rainfall looks scattered but potentially heavy and thundery with light winds continuing to be a feature over the UK. Despite all this talk about rain and cooler air there is no major weather events shown in the outputs today with changes local and probably temporary for many with reasonably warm and dry conditions still holding balance over the UK as a whole.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Ally Pally Snowman
17 July 2013 08:01:21

ECM has stepped back from the inferno this morning but GEM has stepped up,


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rgem1202.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rgem1442.html


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
bledur
17 July 2013 08:02:44

All models show a fine and very warm or hot period still to come with at least 5-6 days more of fine weather still to come before some changes begin to take place




and that takes us to the 23rd when i did mention some forecasts speaking of a change. so if it does they got to be at least half right.


ECM has stepped back from the inferno this morning but GEM has stepped up,


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rgem1202.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rgem1442.html


certainly shows the very high temps talked about yesterday are not "nailed on"



Polar Low
17 July 2013 08:05:33

Thanks very much Martin

Gooner
17 July 2013 08:05:47


All models show a fine and very warm or hot period still to come with at least 5-6 days more of fine weather still to come before some changes begin to take place




and that takes us to the 23rd when i did mention some forecasts speaking of a change. so if it does they got to be at least half right.


Originally Posted by: bledur 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn18617.png


Well this is day 7 and the 24th ??????


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Ally Pally Snowman
17 July 2013 08:05:50

Looks like a break in the weather looks likely now around the 26th.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Steam Fog
17 July 2013 08:07:24

All models show a fine and very warm or hot period still to come with at least 5-6 days more of fine weather still to come before some changes begin to take place




and that takes us to the 23rd when i did mention some forecasts speaking of a change. so if it does they got to be at least half right.

Originally Posted by: bledur 



No offence Bledur but the outlook remains very warm till at least the 25th. You've been pushing for a breakdown since mid month. That's not half right. It's whole wrong.
Gooner
17 July 2013 08:10:43


All models show a fine and very warm or hot period still to come with at least 5-6 days more of fine weather still to come before some changes begin to take place




and that takes us to the 23rd when i did mention some forecasts speaking of a change. so if it does they got to be at least half right.


Originally Posted by: Steam Fog 



No offence Bledur but the outlook remains very warm till at least the 25th. You've been pushing for a breakdown since mid month. That's not half right. It's whole wrong.

Originally Posted by: bledur 



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Polar Low
17 July 2013 08:17:29

intresting development t144 this morning with energy to our s/w


gfs


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=0


 


ukmo does not really c energy at all at same T


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?nh=0&ech=144&carte=1021


ecm sort of c it slack


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=0&archive=0


untill more runs no point going further


http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/two/ensembles/


gfs ens if anything look better longer term for the south  imo with opp looking isolated on the cool side many members starting to like the idea of more warmer weather to come very good summer run.


 


 


 

Charmhills
17 July 2013 08:20:30

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1442.gif


A thundery looking Met/o 144hs/ECM.


 


 


Loughborough, EM.

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Polar Low
17 July 2013 08:26:34

cant imagine how humid that would feel like worse thing is my house hold going through bad summmer colds at the moment.


weatherwise very intresting none the less as long as the throat getts better.



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1442.gif


A thundery looking Met/o 144hs/ECM.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 

idj20
17 July 2013 08:27:38

I have this feeling that as things does become slack and lazy as we go into next week, that is when things are REALLY going to hot up - along with the increased potential for thunderstorms.

I'm going to put my cards on the table and say that you ain't seen nothing yet regarding the heat and humidity. Even I may end up suffering with it around here after this coming weekend's mini cool down.

I am feeling sorry for those who already have had all those sleepless nights.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Polar Low
17 July 2013 08:34:42

Ian


 Thought u would like to know that my mate went to Clacton on sea in Essex at weekend place was packed and said Saturday was thick fog and mist untill 4 in afternoon dont think it was a wind up as his kidz told me the same u not alone in kent u know Essex gets it as well on the coasts.


 



I have this feeling that as things does become slack and lazy as we go into next week, that is when things are REALLY going to hot up - along with the increased potential for thunderstorms.

I'm going to put my cards on the table and say that you ain't seen nothing yet regarding the heat and humidity. Even I may end up suffering with it around here after this coming weekend's mini cool down.

I am feeling sorry for those who already have had all those sleepless nights.


Originally Posted by: idj20 

17 July 2013 08:36:43


Looks like a break in the weather looks likely now around the 26th.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I would say possible rather than likely.

Ally Pally Snowman
17 July 2013 08:39:22

The ECM ensemble Mean is warmer for longer and slightly more more settled at days 9 and 10 than the Op.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2162.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2402.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.html


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
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