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Ally Pally Snowman
25 July 2013 07:43:41

20c uppers get close again in early August could be a hot start to the month.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1922.html


 


As for the 'Matt Hugogate' he is only commenting on what the charts are showing if they show cool NW's and they dony happen thats not his fault. His own long range forecast for the summer has been wrong but no shame in that so have almost all the long range forecasts this summer.


 


 


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GIBBY
25 July 2013 07:44:28

Hi folks. Here's my interpretation of how I see the midnight outputs and what they mean for us on the surface over the next 10-14 days.


All models illustrate a Low pressure area to the West of the UK. In a basically warm Southerly flow occasional troughs moving North bring showers or outbreaks of heavy rain at times across many districts. One such trough will clear NE arts this morning with spell of 36-48hrs of sunshine and showers then for many Northern areas, some heavy with thunder. The South will see only scattered showers with many parts staying dry, bright and warm. Over the weekend a plume of unusually hot air will lie over the near Continent and the cooler air in association with the Low pressure to the West will engage this hot air and develop a potentially explosive stormy spell across more SE areas of the UK at the weekend. The extent NW varies between models but it is a safe bet that the SE at least will see some heavy thunderstorms and torrential rain for a time over the weekend before fresher air moves in again from the SW.


Looking forward into next week GFS shows a cooler and breezier phase early in the week with a sunshine and shower mix before the South and East become largely dry and somewhat warmer again as winds back from West to a more Southerly point. This could then spawn another thundery rain spell across the East and SE as further troughs push up against the warm air to the East, a process that continues off and on for the rest of the run. Overall temperatures would be close to average but the South and East could continue to see warm and humid conditions continue at times.


The GFS Ensembles shows fairly good consistency for cooler and more average conditions as we move into early August but there is also a strong signal for more variability in temperatures for more Southern and especially SE areas as there are some members showing some warmer output when temperatures rise above average at times. Rainfall is prevalent for all areas at times, most prolific in the North but some in the SE too as thundery troughs dislodge each warm phase.


The Jet Stream shows the flow blowing across the Atlantic towards the UK before being steered North around the European High block for some considerable time to come before hints of the High relaxing over Europe late in the output disintegrates the flow over Europe as the High relaxes somewhat and edges South.


UKMO today shows a SW flow across the UK early next week with Low pressure close to NW Britain. It will stay relatively warm with a mix of sunshine and showers across the UK, heavy at times in the North with some reasonable amounts of sunshine and drier conditions in the South and East.


GEM today shows the weather heating up across the UK next week as a ridge extends North from Europe close to Eastern Britain sucking hot and humid conditions North across the UK later in the week before thunderstorms affect the SW later spreading slowly NE.


NAVGEM shows a showery period continuing next week as low pressure continues to position itself close to Northern or NW Britain. Many Southern and eastern areas would see a lot of dry weather from this setup and it would feel warm under the SW drift. As the low drifts closer in at the end of the run showers could well become rather more widespread but still with sunny intervals in between.


ECM today shows a windy and wet spell towards midweek as a small but vigorous depression crosses the UK at that time. Behind this the cold front slides slowly SE over the SE triggering some thundery rainfall again as warm air slides past the SE on Thursday and Friday. The weekend then looks like a showery affair with sunny spells in between and temperatures lower but still comfortable for early August.


In Summary today the changeable and sometimes unsettled period continues with rain at times for all. Amounts will be very variable due to the showery nature of the weather. There will still be a good deal of dry and bright weather between the rain events and temperatures will often be on the warm side of average for many and considerably so in the SE at times though here thunderstorms could occur every now and again as the hot European air engages with cooler Atlantic winds.


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Edicius81
25 July 2013 08:32:56


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/792680 

40C for Hungary would be exceptional too. The record for Budapest is 40.7C, recorded on July 20, 2007. Does that date sound familiar to anyone...?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Was that the Cockermouth floods?


The mid range on the 0z models looks promising for an at least reasonable start to August in this part of the world.


The 144h chart from GFS shows the traditional ridge - low patter that we'd expect of a more average summer, but hardly a dreadful one.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013072500/gfs-0-144.png?0


and again on day 10


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013072500/gfs-0-240.png?0


I'd happily take an average August after a cool dry June and a memorable July.

Stormchaser
25 July 2013 09:07:16

ECM and GFS are worlds apart this morning with regards to the energy coming across the Atlantic


GFS has a powerful storm which pumps up a nice ridge ahead of it to give a run of settled and very warm days. ECM has a weaker system that passes through Scotland bringing a spell of rain but allowing for temps to hold up across the south. It also leaves a little energy behind as per yesterday's 12z ECM op run, which leads to the close-shave plume followed by a close-shave thundery low... the wrong kind of classic




Interesting signs that higher heights will keep cropping up to our SE, E and NE, perhaps gradually coming to favour the NE more as we progress through August. Troughs look to keep feeding across but only as relatively weak features for the most part, meaning that they do little to displace the generally warm airmasses across the UK. In fact, the signs are that they'll keep getting wrapped up in the warm air plus hot air from the continent, leading to repeated thundery low potential.


I'm starting to wonder if we're heading for a sub-tropical August


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Jiries
25 July 2013 10:32:06


20c uppers get close again in early August could be a hot start to the month.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1922.html


 


As for the 'Matt Hugogate' he is only commenting on what the charts are showing if they show cool NW's and they dony happen thats not his fault. His own long range forecast for the summer has been wrong but no shame in that so have almost all the long range forecasts this summer.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I believe we will tap into this serious heat some point in August making 33.5C few days ago are not done by.

Steam Fog
25 July 2013 10:40:21
Hungry Tiger
25 July 2013 10:51:53


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/792680 

40C for Hungary would be exceptional too. The record for Budapest is 40.7C, recorded on July 20, 2007. Does that date sound familiar to anyone...?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Sure had something to do with the weather over here. Certain amounts of rain come to mind.


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Gooner
25 July 2013 12:38:59

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn6017.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn604.png


Very warm and potentially thundery weather on the cards


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn664.png


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Rob K
25 July 2013 12:55:17
Tough luck for London-based convection fans if the GFS is accurate!

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Sevendust
25 July 2013 13:02:40

Tough luck for London-based convection fans if the GFS is accurate!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs96sum.gif

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 Surprised it shows 1 even

25 July 2013 13:17:09

[quote=Rob K;517883]Tough luck for London-based convection fans if the GFS is accurate!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs96sum.gif[/quote]


Shows the thundery low splitting in 2 just before it reaches me with one half going to my west and the other to my east. Bloody typical.

Gavin P
25 July 2013 13:47:36

Hi all,


Here's today video update;


Very Warm And Thundery To Start August;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Looks at this weekend and next week. Things looking potentially quite explosive.


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Islander
25 July 2013 14:11:07


Hi all,


Here's today video update;


Very Warm And Thundery To Start August;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Looks at this weekend and next week. Things looking potentially quite explosive.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Thanks Gav


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Matty H
25 July 2013 14:22:25
New thread imminent.
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