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27 July 2013 09:45:39



Ian Fergusson     ‏@fergieweather                14m       


Very latest assessment reduces widespread thundery threat SE England and downplays high convective gusts; hail expected small (sub 8mm).



Wow. I am so surprised, Not. Every interesting potential weather event gets massively downgraded at the last minute here. All winter it was the snow and all summer its been the thunderstorms


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


I won't be downgrading anything till it crosses the Channel, that's the main ingredient we need first, the rest will be just the seasoning


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 



Its just so frustrating. All winter snowfall for here was massively downgraded right at the last minute and all summer its been the same with thunderstorms.

Is the weather in Kent always this frustrating? Is it always this difficult to get any weather that is of interest here?

Sevendust
27 July 2013 09:46:22

The storm we was monitoring last night formed on the west French coast and was in touching distance of SE England this morning. If the airflow hasn't altered course, the storms now brewing in Biscay are 150 miles or so more west, so hoping the same trajectory may bring SE England at least into play later.
http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


If the LP develops as was progged then the axis of the associated frontal(thundery) rain will swing W on the northern side of the feature as it runs NE which is why we are expected to get rain here later. The main convective threat remains on the "warm" side of the LP to the SE which is why SE England MAY get proper thunderstorms for a while later in the destabilised hot airmass

Phil G
27 July 2013 09:50:18

I'm guessing the rain just appearing on the radar heading north is the storms heading our way?.

Originally Posted by: stophe 


Yes Stophe, and there appears to be another batch just behind which shows up here.


http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1


Whether they will merge or remain separate as they approach our shores.  

idj20
27 July 2013 09:51:04


The storm we was monitoring last night formed on the west French coast and was in touching distance of SE England this morning. If the airflow hasn't altered course, the storms now brewing in Biscay are 150 miles or so more west, so hoping the same trajectory may bring SE England at least into play later.
http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


If the LP develops as was progged then the axis of the associated frontal(thundery) rain will swing W on the northern side of the feature as it runs NE which is why we are expected to get rain here later. The main convective threat remains on the "warm" side of the LP to the SE which is why SE England MAY get proper thunderstorms for a while later in the destabilised hot airmass


Originally Posted by: Phil G 



The voice of reason as always.  

I gotta admit to being like an excited kid waiting for a favourite grandma to turn up as I know she will always have lots of sweet, treats and comics for me. Then there are times when I get told at the last minute that she won't be turning up because she is poorly and I end up feeling disappointed.


Folkestone Harbour. 
27 July 2013 09:58:19

Ian Fergusson     ‏@fergieweather                7m       


Latest UKMO assessment generally much less threatening across S England: much more positive, despite areas of heavy rain/some thunder later


Just the usual last minute downgrades for the UK then

stophe
27 July 2013 09:58:55

I'm guessing the rain just appearing on the radar heading north is the storms heading our way?.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Yes Stophe, and there appears to be another batch just behind which shows up here.


http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop1uur&lightning=1


Whether they will merge or remain separate as they approach our shores.  

Originally Posted by: stophe 


Looking good for storm fans then.looks to me that every thing is heading NNE.
[thunder]
27 July 2013 10:00:26

Come on guys, predictions for Leicester for this afternoon and on until 9pm/9.30pm, what rain/thunder can we expect during that time window.... are we north enougb to remain pretty much rain/thunder free?
Cheers
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Originally Posted by: VIRTUAL STORMCHASER 



The reason I am after this info is track watering! We have a speedway meeting to get through.... 7:30pm start, 9/9:30pm finish
Its Leicester v Sheffield.......
Any info/input appreciated..
Cheers
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27 July 2013 10:00:40

Had quite a lot of rain here last night and early morning from showers ahead of MCS over France and then getting clipped by it.


Well that was stage 1, and from looking at the radar another area of PPN is developing SE of Caen and looks to be on a collision course with Kent and Sussex that's if it doesn't veer off into the Low countries again.


Bring on stage 2 etc. 


North downs, near Folkestone, 177m asl.
Jonesy
27 July 2013 10:03:24




Ian Fergusson     ‏@fergieweather                14m       


Very latest assessment reduces widespread thundery threat SE England and downplays high convective gusts; hail expected small (sub 8mm).



Wow. I am so surprised, Not. Every interesting potential weather event gets massively downgraded at the last minute here. All winter it was the snow and all summer its been the thunderstorms


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


I won't be downgrading anything till it crosses the Channel, that's the main ingredient we need first, the rest will be just the seasoning


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 



Its just so frustrating. All winter snowfall for here was massively downgraded right at the last minute and all summer its been the same with thunderstorms.

Is the weather in Kent always this frustrating? Is it always this difficult to get any weather that is of interest here?


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


WOW you are hard to please Matt lol We had a decent storm Monday Night and snowfall last winter what more do you want lol 2010 Snowfall was epic here, let alone the 2003 heat !


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Stormchaser
27 July 2013 10:12:55

More sunshine and warmer temps here this morning than the Met Office were forecasting. That could have interesting implications soon...


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Keep Calm and Forecast On
27 July 2013 10:37:17

sitting here nervously.... party tonight... much sunnier and warmer here than forecasted... will it hold, will the heavy storms pass through here later afternoon and be clear of here by the early/mid evening.. or will it chuck it down bang on 7.30pm!  on the other hand, nature may give me a free pyrotechnic show!!Smile

27 July 2013 10:41:50





Ian Fergusson     ‏@fergieweather                14m       


Very latest assessment reduces widespread thundery threat SE England and downplays high convective gusts; hail expected small (sub 8mm).



Wow. I am so surprised, Not. Every interesting potential weather event gets massively downgraded at the last minute here. All winter it was the snow and all summer its been the thunderstorms


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


I won't be downgrading anything till it crosses the Channel, that's the main ingredient we need first, the rest will be just the seasoning


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 



Its just so frustrating. All winter snowfall for here was massively downgraded right at the last minute and all summer its been the same with thunderstorms.

Is the weather in Kent always this frustrating? Is it always this difficult to get any weather that is of interest here?


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


WOW you are hard to please Matt lol We had a decent storm Monday Night and snowfall last winter what more do you want lol 2010 Snowfall was epic here, let alone the 2003 heat !


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 



Had very very little snowfall here compared to most of the UK (or even most of Kent).

beaufort
27 July 2013 10:46:09

Great winter here with snowdrifts between 10 and 13 feet.


Back on topic, feeling very 'close' locally as that cell slides up past my East. Generally overcast conditions and quite still with the odd puff of cold air. I'm expecting to see some lightning later as things develop down towards the SW. 

27 July 2013 10:58:29

I guess the sun breaking through here could help spark things off later.

LeedsLad123
27 July 2013 11:01:05

The Met rainfall map shows showers breaking out across East Yorkshire this afternoon and then drifting over West Yorkshire, before more showers break out widely across N England before the low arrives.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Arcus
27 July 2013 11:02:48
Revised warnings up from the Meto:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=map&map=Warnings&zoom=5&lon=-3.50&lat=55.50&fcTime=1374879600 

Chief forecaster's comments:
"Areas of heavy showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop over France and then move northwards to affect many parts of England during the second half of Saturday and early on Sunday. Although there remains some uncertainty concerning the extent of these heavy showers and thunderstorms, there is an increasing signal for a band of heavy rain with isolated thunderstorms to move north to affect central southern England, the Midlands and then northern England. Some heavy thundery rain is also expected to affect SE England and East Anglia during Saturday afternoon and evening although the risk of severe thunderstorms extending north from France, giving frequent lightning, torrential rain and squally winds has reduced. Rainfall amounts will vary considerably, but there is again scope for 30 mm of rain to fall within an hour and 50 mm or more in less than 3 hours."
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The Beast from the East
27 July 2013 11:15:04
What an epic fail of a forecast. Another hot and sunny day here
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bledur
27 July 2013 11:21:32

large mass of rain/ storms just leaving the cherbourg peninsular. with the higher temps achieved this morning there should be some action this afternoon/ evening oddly ther are shwers getting into devon which was an area that was less likely to see rain.

Charmhills
27 July 2013 11:24:04

Feeling very humid here for sure!


The models for later next week look very plumey.


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Sevendust
27 July 2013 11:25:13

Worth watching the western English Channel. Some strengthening convection lines forming there and extending down to the west of the Brest Peninsula. This may well be the frontal zone developing whilst repeated MCS's move to the east of that boundary  

beaufort
27 July 2013 11:25:32

This cell to my East has electrified and is now heading out over the Baie de Seine towards the UK. There now looks to be a squall line forming to my West, quite dark.

Zubzero
27 July 2013 11:25:44

Revised warnings up from the Meto:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=map&map=Warnings&zoom=5&lon=-3.50&lat=55.50&fcTime=1374879600

Chief forecaster's comments:
"Areas of heavy showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop over France and then move northwards to affect many parts of England during the second half of Saturday and early on Sunday. Although there remains some uncertainty concerning the extent of these heavy showers and thunderstorms, there is an increasing signal for a band of heavy rain with isolated thunderstorms to move north to affect central southern England, the Midlands and then northern England. Some heavy thundery rain is also expected to affect SE England and East Anglia during Saturday afternoon and evening although the risk of severe thunderstorms extending north from France, giving frequent lightning, torrential rain and squally winds has reduced. Rainfall amounts will vary considerably, but there is again scope for 30 mm of rain to fall within an hour and 50 mm or more in less than 3 hours."

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Downgrade stormwise, Likely most will see the dreaded thundery rain 


Still plenty of time for it to change though.

Arcus
27 July 2013 11:33:29
Hope I'm wrong, but I don't see much more than a convective mess of heavy rain pushing north with the odd rumble of thunder for most. Some potential for something more potent in the SE, but charts like this
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs126.gif 

don't scream widespread TSTMs to me.

The Benelux area, on the other hand...
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Phil G
27 July 2013 11:34:23


Revised warnings up from the Meto:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=map&map=Warnings&zoom=5&lon=-3.50&lat=55.50&fcTime=1374879600

Chief forecaster's comments:
"Areas of heavy showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop over France and then move northwards to affect many parts of England during the second half of Saturday and early on Sunday. Although there remains some uncertainty concerning the extent of these heavy showers and thunderstorms, there is an increasing signal for a band of heavy rain with isolated thunderstorms to move north to affect central southern England, the Midlands and then northern England. Some heavy thundery rain is also expected to affect SE England and East Anglia during Saturday afternoon and evening although the risk of severe thunderstorms extending north from France, giving frequent lightning, torrential rain and squally winds has reduced. Rainfall amounts will vary considerably, but there is again scope for 30 mm of rain to fall within an hour and 50 mm or more in less than 3 hours."

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


Downgrade stormwise, Likely most will see the dreaded thundery rain 


Still plenty of time for it to change though.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


As a number have mentioned, the much higher temps than forecasted this morning may have an effect later. +5c more here than it was forecasted to have been.

27 July 2013 11:39:45

Is it me or does the rain moving up toward us look further west than forecast? South western areas were forecast to largely miss out on this but some of the rain appears to be heading straight for them. Seems odd that the Met Office think the thundery activity will slip east of the south east when it all looks further west to me.

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