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Gooner
25 July 2013 16:58:40

P Gibbs


Potential for some torrential rain Saturday


Temps for the weekend down to 23 c


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Jiries
25 July 2013 21:43:55



Latest forecast at 1.30pm that he put temps far too low this weekend at 23-24C when actual temps would be high 20's as the models show from Fri-Sun before dropping back to mid 20's on Monday. 


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


BBC underdoing temperatures? Never!


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


They did a lot and not only me notice the temps being underdoing is Doc who pointed out how Aberdeen been warmer than forecast up to 9C difference.


To make matter worse the latest forecast seem to forgot that Saturday will be a very warm day that backed by the models and latest GFS going for 27C on Saturday which could scrape 28C to 30C locally here.  They are in the hurry to bring the rain in by Sat morning so very progressive forecast.  I know it will rain but not in the morning of Saturday so 3rd world forecsting once again.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn4817.png

Gooner
25 July 2013 22:36:20




Latest forecast at 1.30pm that he put temps far too low this weekend at 23-24C when actual temps would be high 20's as the models show from Fri-Sun before dropping back to mid 20's on Monday. 


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


BBC underdoing temperatures? Never!


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


They did a lot and not only me notice the temps being underdoing is Doc who pointed out how Aberdeen been warmer than forecast up to 9C difference.


To make matter worse the latest forecast seem to forgot that Saturday will be a very warm day that backed by the models and latest GFS going for 27C on Saturday which could scrape 28C to 30C locally here.  They are in the hurry to bring the rain in by Sat morning so very progressive forecast.  I know it will rain but not in the morning of Saturday so 3rd world forecsting once again.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn4817.png


Originally Posted by: Jiries 



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Jiries
26 July 2013 12:06:31

Forecast Summary





  • Saturday


    Increasing cloud is expected to bring rain at times to much of the region from late morning onwards. Some heavy, thundery rain is also likely to develop in places later.





Nothing what the models had been showing high temps then thunderstorms overnight Sat while they are obsessed and in the hurry to bring it earlier to late morning.  More like UK standard general rain from that wording.

Gooner
27 July 2013 08:40:45

How bad was last nights Beeb forscast for today, according to P Gibbs ( Friday 22:30 ) it should be dull and raining IMBY, the radar is clear apart from the extreme SE. We have sunny spells and 20c


Very very poor


 


What is going on


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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SnowyHythe(Kent)
27 July 2013 08:46:56
It seems like the forecast used NAE for their projections. Once again, yet another example of it's poor performance recently.
Matty H
27 July 2013 08:53:11

How bad was last nights Beeb forscast for today, according to P Gibbs ( Friday 22:30 ) it should be dull and raining IMBY, the radar is clear apart from the extreme SE. We have sunny spells and 20c


Very very poor


 


What is going on

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Standard. I've been making this point for some time. Ever since their hi res precip model upgrade their rainfall projections have often been rubbish
RavenCraven
27 July 2013 08:53:58

Has the heavy rain completely missed or is the current radar just the first lot?

Jiries
27 July 2013 08:55:39


How bad was last nights Beeb forscast for today, according to P Gibbs ( Friday 22:30 ) it should be dull and raining IMBY, the radar is clear apart from the extreme SE. We have sunny spells and 20c


Very very poor


 


What is going on


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I been banging about them kept putting very low temps and wet all day and also telling people if you have any events outdoor to cancel it because of the rain.  If this was in the USA they will get lot of lawsuits against them for ruining their plans.


The models had been showing decent very warm Sat at 27C since last weekend and that mean 7 - 0 score to the Media forecasts.  Temps now 21.5C and that only 9.50am so 27C is the likely results by early afternoon.


With next week heatwave coming up the media/bbc forecasts will be ignored and just look at the models and look outside all the time.

Jiries
27 July 2013 08:57:35


Has the heavy rain completely missed or is the current radar just the first lot?


Originally Posted by: RavenCraven 


From what I read from the models output is coming in the evening and overnight one and there no such rain during the day that why 27C is the max by 6pm that had been there since last weekend models run.

Sevendust
27 July 2013 09:20:50

The BBC hourly forecasts on the web are usually a good view - for entertainment purposes today.


At 8am they were showing heavy rain by 11am for here. That's now been adjusted to a light shower. Neither looks likely at present.


Fww, they now have heavy rain at 4pm. As Gary said in the storm thread, our best hope is developments over Brest as the stuff over more mainland France will miss here

Twister
27 July 2013 09:31:03

Margaret Emerson (MetO) video forecast: "Plenty of thunder mixed in"


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/


Location: Egerton, Kent - 33m ASL
Thunder 2016: 12 (Apr 3,13; May 21; Jun 8,11,17,22,23,25, Jul 2,12, Aug 26)
Winter 2015/6: Snowfalls: 10 | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 17 (0.5cm)) | Air frosts: 39
Winter 2016/7: Snowfalls: 4 (Jan 12-3, Feb 10-11) | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 13, 2cm, Feb 11, 3-5mm) | Air frosts: 57 (2 in Oct, 10 in Nov, 13 in Dec, 19 in Jan, 6 in Feb, 3 in Mar, 4 in Apr)
"The heavens tell of the glory of God. The skies display his marvellous craftsmanship." (Psalm 19:1)
Matty H
27 July 2013 10:43:51
Forecast max for here today was 21c. We exceeded that over an hour ago.
Gooner
27 July 2013 10:56:24

very warm 23 virtually clear skies


I really am annoyed with the Beeb I actually got sucked in by their forecast and cancelled a round of golf


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
27 July 2013 10:58:28

D Bett


Heavy rain this weekend


Rain coming from the South " that is why it is so hard to forecast" why?


Map shows me at 21c , waved that goodbye a while ago


effffffffing rubbish


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


nsrobins
27 July 2013 11:16:24


D Bett


Heavy rain this weekend


Rain coming from the South " that is why it is so hard to forecast" why?


Map shows me at 21c , waved that goodbye a while ago


effffffffing rubbish


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Well to be fair we know that the ppn models are not as good at convective systems as they are dynamic frontal types, so the statement is partially true.
Forecasts on frontal arrival from the SW for instance should be treated with more confidence than the development of plume/MCS type systems from the SSE. It's not too difficult to understand but a forecast has to be made nethertheless and years of reading and learning on these forums should give us the knowledge to know that.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
cultman1
27 July 2013 12:15:38
It's outrageous that the bbc can get this so seriously wrong at 130pm in London
What on earth is going on?
Jiries
27 July 2013 12:36:03


very warm 23 virtually clear skies


I really am annoyed with the Beeb I actually got sucked in by their forecast and cancelled a round of golf


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


You should had gone ahead with it if you follow the models.  Iver now recording 29.1C and 30C is possible so that 9C warmer than forecast and record range for nearly 10C hotter than forecast.

Gooner
27 July 2013 12:39:55



very warm 23 virtually clear skies


I really am annoyed with the Beeb I actually got sucked in by their forecast and cancelled a round of golf


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


You should had gone ahead with it if you follow the models.  Iver now recording 29.1C and 30C is possible so that 9C warmer than forecast and record range for nearly 10C hotter than forecast.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


As it was only 12 hours before the round I didnt expect it to be soooooooooooooooooo wrong


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
27 July 2013 12:41:48



D Bett


Heavy rain this weekend


Rain coming from the South " that is why it is so hard to forecast" why?


Map shows me at 21c , waved that goodbye a while ago


effffffffing rubbish


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Well to be fair we know that the ppn models are not as good at convective systems as they are dynamic frontal types, so the statement is partially true.
Forecasts on frontal arrival from the SW for instance should be treated with more confidence than the development of plume/MCS type systems from the SSE. It's not too difficult to understand but a forecast has to be made nethertheless and years of reading and learning on these forums should give us the knowledge to know that.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Understand that Neil but we are talking just 7 hours before rain was due to hit................there was nothing ????


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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bledur
27 July 2013 13:16:07

looking at current radar it looks like it is still coming or it might all fizzle out. got to agree to not get a forecast fairly accurate a few hours out is poor.  time to look for another careerBigGrin

cultman1
27 July 2013 13:34:54
2.30 pm and a continuation of fone sinny if not somewhat hazy weather in London. I still feel that the BBC /Met office have a lot of answering to do
cultman1
27 July 2013 13:35:44
PC issues sorry folks,,,fine sunny still established here in West london
cowman
27 July 2013 14:03:13
Think S.C. said the Met get the rain here to fast the outher day looks like tonight now.
POD
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27 July 2013 17:44:57

Amber warning for the NE.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ne/ne_forecast_warnings.html


Pat, Crawley Down, West Sussex.
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