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Ally Pally Snowman
29 July 2013 12:59:05

August looks like starting hot and pretty much staying that way.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


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Hungry Tiger
29 July 2013 14:39:27




Further upgrade on early next week with wide spread 27C on Monday for the south and not just the SE.  Likely around 27-30C days once again next week after this coming week very hot spell giving out low to mid 30's in usual places.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Indeed the forecast unsettled weather never really gets going especially with the ECM and we end up with another plume.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html  32c +


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Just in time for my hols


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Some decent hot stuff there.


 


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Matty H
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29 July 2013 14:45:19

August looks like starting hot and pretty much staying that way.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Well, there's a brief hot spike, which has been modelled for a few days now. Then it drops back to average or slightly above at times. Plenty of rainfall in there too
Sevendust
29 July 2013 14:51:57





Greens pushing into the far SE!! 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=1


 



Originally Posted by: Scandy 1050 MB 


 


Must be the only chart showing that. Looks like remaing warm to very warm from everything else I can see.


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


True - am cherry picking. I can live with warm/very warm. Glad that hot/very hot doesn't appear to be on the cards for the time being.


Originally Posted by: RavenCraven 


Glad to see that also, however as ECM shows that pesky 20c 850 line is always not very far away and if we have a stalling low going up the west of the country we could easily have another plume and drag it in. Still, if you like heat some good charts out there for next week if it's your thing but not across the board at the moment. Looks to me like ECM is on a hot successive run, whether it changes tonight remains to be seen.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

Slightly O/T but it hasn't escaped my notice that most of the heat whingers live in the south-east which is a tad ironic bearing in mind they live in the potentially hottest part of the UK.


Thankfully we have the likes of Martin to give us a sound view of the models, free of cherry picking. Provided we get at least pleasantly warm conditions and not too much rain disruption I think most people will be happy

nsrobins
29 July 2013 16:39:41

OT:
Talking of rain disruption I've booked an outdoor job tomorrow and models are firming-up on a 5 hour period of moderate rain here from 9am to 2pm.
Well and truely narked it has to be said, when today and Wednesday would have been fine. It's bricklaying before anyone asks LOL.


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Stormchaser
29 July 2013 16:47:12

All of a sudden, the energy on Friday is going more N than NE. That brings GFS more in line with ECM and opens the door for heights rises to the NE to aid those to our E and bring about a more notable HP influence for a time.


More significently, it holds warm to very warm conditions across the UK, followed by hot conditions as the Atlantic undercuts and forms a braod trough across Spain.


Early FI might be a bit too progressive, but it still shows the potential for some notable heat and storms to come our way, again very much in line with recent ECM op runs.


FI then shows the pattern reloading again and again - signalling a truly extreme first half of August, especially across Europe! The UK might well get repeated plumes, and potentially the pattern could back slowly west with time, but now I'm getting way ahead of myself!




I wouldn't be talking about this so seriously if it wasn't for the consistent supportive signals from ECM lately.


UKMO is also supporting the general idea: http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/archives/2013072912/UW144-21.GIF


That adjustment at just 96 hours range is a big deal, and goes to show how far the models can struggle with the interaction between the Atlantic energy and European HP - the tendency is to send too much energy NE just as we tend to see in winter.


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Gavin P
29 July 2013 16:50:44


OT:
Talking of rain disruption I've booked an outdoor job tomorrow and models are firming-up on a 5 hour period of moderate rain here from 9am to 2pm.
Well and truely narked it has to be said, when today and Wednesday would have been fine. It's bricklaying before anyone asks LOL.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Spend the day in the pub instead.


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Matty H
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29 July 2013 16:54:49
I will take the GFS 12z chart for Wednesday 7th August please! 🤤
Charmhills
29 July 2013 16:57:22

I will take the GFS 12z chart for Wednesday 7th August please! Drool

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


The ECM could be close to pinning this one down Matty in regards to further hot/humid/bangy plumes.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


The Met not far off!


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Matty H
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29 July 2013 17:01:21

I will take the GFS 12z chart for Wednesday 7th August please! Drool

Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


The ECM could be close to pinning this one down Matty in regards to further hot/humid/bangy plumes.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


The Met not far off!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Certainly a consistent theme for hot spells interspersed with thundery breaks. Typical tropical weather pattern really 👅
Jiries
29 July 2013 17:02:10


I will take the GFS 12z chart for Wednesday 7th August please! Drool

Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


The ECM could be close to pinning this one down Matty in regards to further hot/humid/bangy plumes.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


The Met not far off!


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Further upgrades on 12z with Monday now looking at 28C here and more warmth everywhere.  I think if this continue like that we would be looking at 30C on Monday to mid 30's by Wed as 20C uppers reach back here again after this week.

Gooner
29 July 2013 17:22:07

Starting to look better for my holiday from 9th onwards, temps picking up in FI


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bledur
29 July 2013 17:43:48

http://www.weatherweb.net/tvweather/londontempens.gif


http://www.weatherweb.net/tvweather/london850tempecmwfem.gif


the ensembles dont really show any real heat apart from thursday -friday this week i know thats london but they all follow a similiar pattern


http://www.weatherweb.net/cfs/cfses4avmaxukweek2.gif


means for the cfs week 2 dont look that warm either


http://www.weatherweb.net/cfs/cfses4prateeuweek2.gif looking fairly unsettled as well.

Stormchaser
29 July 2013 18:16:00

On the contrary... good GEFS support for that second plume 6th-8th August


Not sure what the CFS average maximum chart is really showing but it seems to show values more likely to turn up by night than by day...? Certainly not the average maximums, just look at France!


The rainfall could easily be largely from tomorrow's feature and then some convective fun thereafter




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Rob K
29 July 2013 18:20:12

Just had a browse through the 12Z GFS. It brings the 20C isotherm flirting with the SE corner not once, not twice but on THREE separate occasions.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn782.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2282.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3362.png

As Alan Partridge once said: In the words of Shakin' Stevens: "Lovely stuff".


 


 


Loving this ensemble chart: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Like the Himalayas of heat. 


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Hungry Tiger
29 July 2013 18:27:42

Phew - this sure has upgraded since I last looked at these last night.


http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm



Heat comes back and some and it stays as well.


 


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nouska
29 July 2013 18:29:17


On the contrary... good GEFS support for that second plume 6th-8th August


Not sure what the CFS average maximum chart is really showing but it seems to show values more likely to turn up by night than by day...? Certainly not the average maximums, just look at France!


The rainfall could easily be largely from tomorrow's feature and then some convective fun thereafter




There we are - bledur's post well and truly balanced


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


You always do it so diplomatically too!


I think the CFS runs on that site may be a bit behind the curve - they have been punting a cool week 2 to 4 for August but it's only the last few op runs that extend the heat throughout the period so will see if the monthly GEFS start to trend warmer from now.

Ally Pally Snowman
29 July 2013 18:41:35

High pressure builds in strongly the unsettled start to August looks in doubt at the moment.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


 


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Stormchaser
29 July 2013 18:51:13

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1442.gif


ECM's holding steady from this morning, lending further support to the idea of HP travelling from our SW to our NE with the UK en-route


I'm still a little wary of possible over-reactions from the models, but with the whole change being driven by a shift at 96 hours, there's plenty of reason to anticipate that we'll have that combination of HP drifting NE from the Azores and Atlantic LP digging down into Spain - a nice recipe for plumes and booms


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1682.gif


Here it goes...


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Rob K
29 July 2013 18:51:58


High pressure builds in strongly the unsettled start to August looks in doubt at the moment.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Well it might be a tad unsettled but ALIWBH!


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1922.gif


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29 July 2013 18:53:39


Starting to look better for my holiday from 9th onwards, temps picking up in FI


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

My hols start on 3rd so I'm looking for some good weather in Powys from the weekend!   


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Ally Pally Snowman
29 July 2013 18:54:25

Then it goes BANG again with some serious heat. Superb summer weather! No NW breakdown to be seen. Hot and thundery for the foreseeable.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1922.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.html


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Polar Low
29 July 2013 19:17:35
Justin W
29 July 2013 19:24:49

Certainly an upgrade for hot weather fans from this morning. I would imagine 32-34C in favoured spots on Friday and then 30C again next week.


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Polar Low
29 July 2013 19:25:26

very hot looking end on the japs for south uk


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma.php?ech=144&mode=1

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