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pnepaul
05 August 2013 11:07:50

I am unable to watch the match so relying on TMS. They are commenting on the poor weather forecast  I believe the sun is shining as well.


Poor lbw review from Cook it would seem. 

Gooner
05 August 2013 11:10:36

Cook gone...........no surprise


10 -1

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Saint Snow
05 August 2013 11:10:39


Cook, you nonce



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


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NickR
05 August 2013 11:26:20
There's a blob of rain on the radar heading for OT... just in time for the lunch interval and should have cleared within, say, 40 minutes. :-S
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Gooner
05 August 2013 11:34:46

20-2


Pressure really on

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NickR
05 August 2013 11:36:16
We're going to lose this. Complacency and poor play have led to this. If they lose the series from here, then they should never be forgiven.

At this rate we could be relying on the poor weather forecast for Durham later this week/next week.
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Matty H
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05 August 2013 11:46:59
Another absolute fail from either hotspot or the umpires
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NickR
05 August 2013 11:48:58
2-1 in the series.

Disgraceful performance matched by a disgraceful forecast.
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turbotubbs
05 August 2013 11:50:06

We're going to lose this. Complacency and poor play have led to this. If they lose the series from here, then they should never be forgiven. At this rate we could be relying on the poor weather forecast for Durham later this week/next week.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Not sure I would say its complacency. The Aussies won a very good toss on thursday, and having put runs on the board its always harder to bat second and then on the last day. I don't think the Aussies have suddenly become world beaters, but we are in a hole at the moment and need some grit.

bowser
05 August 2013 11:50:55

Another absolute fail from either hotspot or the umpires

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


The umpires union strikes again.... trying to keep themselves on the elite panel rather making the correct decision. Shame.

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05 August 2013 11:53:34

Another absolute fail from either hotspot or the umpires

Originally Posted by: bowser 


The umpires union strikes again.... trying to keep themselves on the elite panel rather making the correct decision. Shame.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I'm only listening on TMS. They said it was given out on audio? How can that be when audio is not a permitted option to use on its own on the DRS?
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Brummie Snowman
05 August 2013 11:54:25
Is there any hope that the weather will save us in time?
NickR
05 August 2013 11:55:40

Is there any hope that the weather will save us in time?

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 


Look at the radar and see for yourself.


Doesn't look hopeful to me - can't see more than the odd shower/drizzle later on.

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bowser
05 August 2013 11:55:48

Another absolute fail from either hotspot or the umpires

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

The umpires union strikes again.... trying to keep themselves on the elite panel rather making the correct decision. Shame.

Originally Posted by: bowser 

I'm only listening on TMS. They said it was given out on audio? How can that be when audio is not a permitted option to use on its own on the DRS?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I'm only going by cricinfo commentary, but its usually reliable. No hot spot, not out, IMO.

turbotubbs
05 August 2013 11:57:36

Another absolute fail from either hotspot or the umpires

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

The umpires union strikes again.... trying to keep themselves on the elite panel rather making the correct decision. Shame.

Originally Posted by: bowser 

I'm only listening on TMS. They said it was given out on audio? How can that be when audio is not a permitted option to use on its own on the DRS?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I think there was not enough evidence to overturn it. So if there was no sound it may have been overturned. Cook shouldn't have wasted one earlier - just hope we don't pay the price later.


I'm moving to the idea of DRS being umpires only - none of this 2 per side nonsence. But they have to look at how the 3rd umps are applying it. I still can't fathom Agars not out in the first test, or Kawaja's out in this one.

JHutch
05 August 2013 11:58:37

I make that 10 referrals in the match and none successful?

pnepaul
05 August 2013 12:01:19

Another absolute fail from either hotspot or the umpires

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

The umpires union strikes again.... trying to keep themselves on the elite panel rather making the correct decision. Shame.

Originally Posted by: bowser 

I'm only listening on TMS. They said it was given out on audio? How can that be when audio is not a permitted option to use on its own on the DRS?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


As I understand it no mark on hot spot does not necessarily mean not out!. They can use audio but not snicko


In the case of Pietrerson the 3rd umpire said there a definate sound and his bat was away from his body. 


Hope that helps 

Gooner
05 August 2013 12:02:20

Out top order batting hasn't been great, you guys will hammer me for this but Cook has to step down as captain, if we don't watch us lose the Ashes in the Winter

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turbotubbs
05 August 2013 12:06:27


Out top order batting hasn't been great, you guys will hammer me for this but Cook has to step down as captain, if we don't watch us lose the Ashes in the Winter


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Won't hammer you for an opinion! I think you are wrong though...


Lots of statistics in sport have gone to show that there is really no such thing as form, just random fluctuations on the long term. He will score runs again in time. He has a tough job opening, especially on a day like today.

Polar Low
05 August 2013 12:18:49

keep the faith England can BAT THIS OUT LITTLE DOUBT IMO.


Crowd will get them home after lunch no need to panic.


Radar also starting to fill in


God knows what u lot would have done in 1966


 

Gandalf The White
05 August 2013 12:30:00

Out top order batting hasn't been great, you guys will hammer me for this but Cook has to step down as captain, if we don't watch us lose the Ashes in the Winter

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I know you have that opinion but I think you're about as wrong as its possible to be. I don't see what he's done wrong, either as captain or batsman?

The first question you have to answer is who would you appoint as captain? It has to be someone capable of holding down his place in the side and with captaincy experience. I cannot think of anyone not in the side who could come in as captain and there's nobody in the team who stands out. Peterson has been tried and it didn't work.

The key point is that the selectors have - rightly - adopted a policy of long-term planning and continuity. That means Cook stays as captain, it also means Root stays as opener.

If (big IF) England lose today it will be down to poor batting and better cricket by Australia over 5 days and not down to anything related to captaincy.
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SydneyonTees
05 August 2013 12:30:00


keep the faith England can BAT THIS OUT LITTLE DOUBT IMO.


Crowd will get them home after lunch no need to panic.


Radar also starting to fill in


God knows what u lot would have done in 1966


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


All we can do is take it an hour at a time, if we settle / concentrate we can get the draw still, if Australia win then they will have deserved it.


I am not even looking at the radar, we should expect full play from here and so should England.

Gooner
05 August 2013 12:40:36



Out top order batting hasn't been great, you guys will hammer me for this but Cook has to step down as captain, if we don't watch us lose the Ashes in the Winter


Originally Posted by: turbotubbs 


Won't hammer you for an opinion! I think you are wrong though...


Lots of statistics in sport have gone to show that there is really no such thing as form, just random fluctuations on the long term. He will score runs again in time. He has a tough job opening, especially on a day like today.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


This , apparently is the poorest Aussie side for years and years and Cook has struggled, I would have Prior as captian


 


Of course just an opinion

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Gooner
05 August 2013 12:43:18

Out top order batting hasn't been great, you guys will hammer me for this but Cook has to step down as captain, if we don't watch us lose the Ashes in the Winter

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

I know you have that opinion but I think you're about as wrong as its possible to be. I don't see what he's done wrong, either as captain or batsman? The first question you have to answer is who would you appoint as captain? It has to be someone capable of holding down his place in the side and with captaincy experience. I cannot think of anyone not in the side who could come in as captain and there's nobody in the team who stands out. Peterson has been tried and it didn't work. The key point is that the selectors have - rightly - adopted a policy of long-term planning and continuity. That means Cook stays as captain, it also means Root stays as opener. If (big IF) England lose today it will be down to poor batting and better cricket by Australia over 5 days and not down to anything related to captaincy.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Well that really is a standard


Doesn't Cook have a say in the selection???? Why pick KP ??


 


Sorry but I just don't see him as being assertive enough

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SydneyonTees
05 August 2013 12:46:52




Out top order batting hasn't been great, you guys will hammer me for this but Cook has to step down as captain, if we don't watch us lose the Ashes in the Winter


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Won't hammer you for an opinion! I think you are wrong though...


Lots of statistics in sport have gone to show that there is really no such thing as form, just random fluctuations on the long term. He will score runs again in time. He has a tough job opening, especially on a day like today.


Originally Posted by: turbotubbs 


This , apparently is the poorest Aussie side for years and years and Cook has struggled, I would have Prior as captian


 


Of course just an opinion


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Cook isn't the only person in the England side struggling for form, Prior is just the same. Cook makes some decisions I certainly don't agree with but talk of replacing him as captain when we are currently 2 - 0 up in an ashes series and retaining the ashes for a 3 time at the earliest possible time in the series is a little unusual.


England aren't performing but that is as much to do with individual form as much as anything. Knocking England seems to be the in thing to do at the moment in the media, some of it deserved much of it not.


***** sick of TMS talking about England walking or not walking, Broad stands his ground he gets a hard time, he walks and he is given a hard time. Aussies of course must get it right every time. 

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