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Stormchaser
24 September 2013 11:22:25

The usual rules apply as we progress through mist, fog and low cloud towards the end of the first month of autumn 2013.


On topic, on the ball, and getting on nobodys nerves please


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Stormchaser
24 September 2013 11:28:49


Managed to throw you all a  link now. Sorry.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Martin's summary for anyone who wants a quick and highly informative recap on the 00z runs


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Larry Seinfeld
24 September 2013 11:34:42

www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Not much scatter on the 0z GFS until two weeks out. Would be nice to see some sunshine with the above average temperatures.


 


Gavin P
24 September 2013 12:44:04

Hi all,


Here's todays video update;


Southerly Winds To Persist Into October;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


 


 


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Osprey
24 September 2013 14:32:24



Quote: Managed to throw you all a  link now. Sorry.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


 


Cheers Martin





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Osprey
24 September 2013 14:33:30


Hi all,


Here's todays video update;


Southerly Winds To Persist Into October;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


 


 


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

Thank you Gavin


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Gooner
24 September 2013 14:45:39

Thanks Gav


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Rob K
24 September 2013 17:01:15
High pressure ruling the roost in the extended GFS this afternoon.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3001.png 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3601.png 
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Stormchaser
24 September 2013 18:37:06

Decent agreement out to day 5 between the 12z ECM, UKMO and GFS op runs.


UKMO sends a tiny bit more energy NE than ECM while GFS matches UKMO to the NE but also has a little more to our SW. We're talking just a mb or in terms of pressure; I'm looking more at the shape of the synoptics to see the differences. They have little impact on the UK directly, but the effect on the high pressure to the NE is more pronounced, with ECM modelling 1020mb or so to our NE on day 6 while GFS and UKMO are closer to 1015mb.


I'm only really bothered because I'd like to see a decent block to the NE to start October - purely for the novelty of it


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Polar Low
24 September 2013 18:45:01

ecm trying very hard now to shut the door at t144 2 our n/west


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


 

Polar Low
24 September 2013 18:50:52

Makes a huge difference would be quite nice espo s and s/e


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=192&mode=1&map=1&archive=0

Polar Low
24 September 2013 19:07:52

Thanks very much James,


Was hoping for some sunshine seen nowt for 3 days really which is shame thick fog etc as it would have been very warm really was hoping weekend maybe now not so sure after looking at fax charts.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?ech=96&carte=2000



Decent agreement out to day 5 between the 12z ECM, UKMO and GFS op runs.


UKMO sends a tiny bit more energy NE than ECM while GFS matches UKMO to the NE but also has a little more to our SW. We're talking just a mb or in terms of pressure; I'm looking more at the shape of the synoptics to see the differences. They have little impact on the UK directly, but the effect on the high pressure to the NE is more pronounced, with ECM modelling 1020mb or so to our NE on day 6 while GFS and UKMO are closer to 1015mb.


I'm only really bothered because I'd like to see a decent block to the NE to start October - purely for the novelty of it


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

GIBBY
24 September 2013 19:09:44

Good evening everyone. Here's my take on the noon outputs of the regular models for this evening Tuesday September 24th 2013.


All models show a fairly slow deterioration of what will become a rather static pattern of Low pressure to the SW and High to the NE of the UK with a relatively warm and often humid SE flow over the UK. Fog overnight will be an issue for a while longer before more of a SE breeze should blow this away later in the week. The patchy rain or showers already in evidence to the North and SW will gradually increase in magnitude and extent over the latter end of the week and most especially over the weekend. Some of the rain may be heavy and possibly accompanied by thunder most likely towards the South and West of the UK while more Northern and NE areas look like seeing rather less in the way of rain.


GFS then shows next week as rather unsettled with warm and moist but light winds continuing to feed up from the SW carrying outbreaks of rain or showers too. Later in the week the weather picks up with sunny spells becoming increasingly evident as pressure builds in from the Atlantic with a quiet Autumn spell to end the run.


UKMO tonight shows low pressure out in the Atlantic feeding a SE flow up across the UK with troughs in tow bringing spells of thundery rain North at times, especially in the South while more Northern areas may not see as much rain. It will stay reasonably warm in the SE breeze away from windward coasts.


GEM tonight still looks the most active model in developing Low pressure deeply out to the SW and swinging various centres North close to the West Coast of Britain with heavy rain at times for all and potential gales affecting the far West over the period.


NAVGEM shows an unstable SE then South feed with a strong High over Europe and Low pressure in the Atlantic. With warm and moisture laden air feeding South over the UK with bands of rain and heavy showers moving steadily North across the UK, chiefly in the West.


ECM tonight shows a sustained period of moist and unstable Southerly winds as Low pressure continues to dominate the Atlantic through next week. All areas will remain at risk from quite heavy and potentially thundery rain at times with some brief drier interludes in between with the emphasis of rain shifting from the South and West towards the North and West late in the run as winds veer more towards the West. Temperatures look like holding close to average in prolonged rainy periods to somewhat above average temperatures during the drier interludes.


The GFS Ensembles show the gradient of cooler uppers affecting the UK has become less steep tonight with many members keeping uppers above average now almost to the end of the run. Occasional rain is commonplace throughout the period from the 29th in the Southeast and somewhat before in the West.


The Jet Stream forecast shows the now weakened flow to the North decaying away to nothing as a new arm sets up to the SW of the UK by the weekend. Next week sees a split flow developing with one arm crossing East to the North of the UK while the Southern arm stays to the South of Britain.


In Summary tonight it looks like a period of unsettled conditions with warm and humid Southerly winds looking like being the most likely option. Low pressure is likely to be anchored out in the Atlantic while High pressure over Europe is equally persistent. The most rainfall is likely to affect the South and West in particular though nowhere is immune. However, there will be some drier and brighter interludes when it will feel quite warm and humid.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Hungry Tiger
24 September 2013 19:27:19

High pressure ruling the roost in the extended GFS this afternoon.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3001.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3601.png


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That looks nice - sure does - bring it on.


 


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Gooner
24 September 2013 22:52:21

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3361.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn33617.png


Certainly not what I'm looking for 8 days into October


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


moomin75
24 September 2013 23:20:58


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3361.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn33617.png


Certainly not what I'm looking for 8 days into October


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Looks glorious to me Marcus....Winter can wait.....until winter!


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Sevendust
25 September 2013 06:39:23



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3361.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn33617.png


Certainly not what I'm looking for 8 days into October


Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Looks glorious to me Marcus....Winter can wait.....until winter!


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Winter synoptics in early October mean nothing wrt winter and are wasted this early anyway. Might be interesting in mid-November but not now. The longer it gets delayed the better for now

Gooner
25 September 2013 07:28:54

I'm actually looking for temps more akin to Autumn guys


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
25 September 2013 07:34:14

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3481.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn34817.png


Deep into FI , HP with lower Autumnal temps .


Foggy morning could well be the norm


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Maunder Minimum
25 September 2013 07:35:08



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3361.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn33617.png


Certainly not what I'm looking for 8 days into October


Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Looks glorious to me Marcus....Winter can wait.....until winter!


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I agree - keeps the heating bills down too. An Indian summer is to be welcomed - much better than a cold, wet autumn.


What happens after that? - into the freezer for December/January I hope.


New world order coming.
GIBBY
25 September 2013 07:41:43

Good morning folks. Here is the daily morning look at the midnight outputs issued by GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday September 25th 2013.


All models indicate a warm South or SE feed across the UK between Low pressure down to the SW and High to the East. This pattern changes little over the coming days with a trend for Low pressure to edge closer to Southern Britain by and over the weekend with a stronger risk of rain at times than is shown currently. The North on the other hand will see the current occasional rain slip a little further South with much cooler conditions for a time before milder SE winds push back North later with just a little rain more likely in the West of this area.


GFS then shows a changeable pattern next week as Low pressure slowly migrates North and East to the West of the UK turning winds from the SE towards a Westerly point. Through this period all areas are still at risk of some rain but Eastern and NE areas may not fair badly with a lot of dry and still reasonably warm weather to be found. With the Low to the SW moved NE it opens the door for the Azores High to build again across Britain for the countless number of times over the last three or four months which would return fine and dry conditions for most with reasonable day temperatures but mist and foggy nights likely again too. Any cloud and rain would then become restricted to the far NW of Britain.


UKMO today shows an undercutting development with energy from Low pressure to the SW sliding East across France keeping Southern Britain at risk to rain at times, some of which would be heavy as fronts edge North. The North would become or stay largely dry as High pressure out to the East extends a ridge West towards Scotland with all areas experiencing winds from an Easterly point.


GEM today shows High pressure over Scandiavia towards midweek next week while Low pressure out to the West and SW continues to spin troughs up across the South and West of the UK. Rain at times would occur here with misty conditions in often leaden skies. Further north and East conditions will be drier but here too a lot of cloud and a little rain is possible at times. Fresher cleaner air could reach the SW at the end of the run as winds begin to turn towards the SW.


NAVGEM shows High pressure slipping South over Europe next week with the persitent Atlantic Low pressure to the West filling and moving slowly North. The net result would be for winds to turn from SE to SW with time with the occasional rain in the South and West transferring more towards the NW while Southern and Eastern areas could potentially become dry and warmer again later next week.


ECM is broadly similar as it too has Low pressure filling and moving NE to the West of the UK while High pressure over Europe extends a finger towards Southern Britain with a warm SW flow developing with the rain of early in the week in the South and West extending North to the NW but leaving the South and East relatively dry and possibly bright by the end of the week.


The GFS Ensembles show that warm weather is expected to persist over the Uk for the coming two weeks. A slow leak of warmth is shown over the period but even by the end of the run there is good support for a maintained spell of uppers above average. Rainfall amounts are showing a continued trend to lessen in amount from previous outputs especially later in the run and in the SE.


The Jet Stream shows the flow developing to the South of the UK over France for the next three to four days before this pattern weakens as a new arm now has good support for reforming at more northerly latitudes to the North of Scotland later next week.


In Summary today the programmed breakdown in the weather continues to be watered down with every run. The culprit is High pressure over Europe which maintains a ridge West across Scotland early next week with rain from the Low pressure areas to the SW affecting Southern Britain at times. The High transfers South over Europe by the end of next week as Low pressure to the West fills and moves North. Winds then shift SW and a more NW/SE split develops with the South and East seeing the best of by then dry, bright and mild weather close to the High pressure ridge extending from Southeast Europe while the NW stay at risk from rain bearing troughs crossing by on occasion. Given the time of year and as a result of all this it looks unlikely there is any particularly inclement Autumn gales and heavy rain to come with the winds maintaining their period of unusually light strengths that we have seen for some considerable time of late.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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ARTzeman
25 September 2013 07:46:40

Thank you Martin.


 


Some  rain for a few days from the weekend will be welcome.


Glad no blow expected ...






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Polar Low
25 September 2013 07:52:07

Thanks Martin,

Polar Low
25 September 2013 07:54:42

http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/two/ensembles/


very long run and very little scatter of above uppers always on the warm side of the trough.


 

Polar Low
25 September 2013 07:57:26

not much rain here for next 7 days at least if this is true


http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html

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